X-FACTOR #26 SOLD OUT, 2nd PRINT COMING - YOUNG X-MEN?

[MattBrady]

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/X_Factor/X-Factor26VariantCover.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/X_Factor/t_X-Factor26VariantCover.jpg" border="0" align="right"></a><i>Newsarama Note: This is the first mention of <b>Young X-Men</b> by Marvel.</I>

<i>Press Release</i>
<blockquote>Marvel is proud to announce that X-Factor #26, featuring Messiah CompleX Chapter 7, has sold out at Diamond (though copies may be available at the retail level). This marks the seventh straight sell-out for the comic book event of the season, which has shocked readers with the appearance of a new mutant, the return of Cable and the formation of an all-new, all-different

To meet the overwhelming demand for this issue, Marvel is going back to press with X-Factor #26 Second Printing Variant, featuring the interior art of fan-favorite Scot Eaton on a new cover!

“I am so proud that Messiah CompleX is doing so well,” said editor Nick Lowe. “The writers and artists have put in so much work to knock your socks off and it seems to be working (though I hope your feet don’t get cold). Trust me when I say, the best is yet to come!”

David Gabriel, Marvel’s Senior Vice-President of Sales and Circulation added, “Sales on New X-Men and X-Factor have more than doubled since this started. With new titles launching out of this event such as X-Force, Cable, X-Men: Legacy and <u>Young X-Men</u>, as well as saying good bye to some old favorites, we'll have an entirely new invigorated X line up for 2008! "

Hailed as am “undeniable success so far” by IGN.Com, and with buzz continuing to grow, Marvel urges retailers to check their orders on X-Factor #26 Second Printing Variant and all chapters of Messiah CompleX. The X-Men have never faced a war like this before and when it’s done, not everyone may survive the x-perience!

Don’t miss a single issue of Messiah CompleX!

MESSIAH COMPLEX – PART 1 of 13
X-MEN: MESSIAH COMPLEX ONE-SHOT NEW PRINTING (SEP078124)
Written by ED BRUBAKER
Penciled by MARC SILVESTRI
Wraparound Cover by SIMONE BIANCHI
Rated T+ …$3.99
On-Sale—11/28/07

MESSIAH COMPLEX – PART 2 of 13
UNCANNY X-MEN #492 SECOND PRINTING VARIANT (SEP078145)
Written by ED BRUBAKER
Penciled by BILLY TAN
Cover by BILLY TAN
Rated T+ …$2.99
FOC—11/15/07, On-Sale—12/05/07

MESSIAH COMPLEX – PART 3 of 13
X-FACTOR #25 (SEP072234)
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by SCOT EATON
Cover by DAVID FINCH
Variant Cover by J. SCOTT CAMPBELL
Rated T+ …$2.99
On-Sale—NOW!

MESSIAH COMLPEX – PART 4 of 13
NEW X-MEN #44 (SEP072236)
Written by CHRISTOPHER YOST & CRAIG KYLE
Penciled by HUMBERTO RAMOS
Cover by DAVID FINCH
Variant Cover by J.SCOTT CAMPBELL
Rated T+ …$2.99
On-Sale—11/21/07

MESSIAH COMPLEX – PART 5 of 13
X-MEN #205 (SEP072238)
Written by MIKE CAREY
Penciled by CHRIS BACHALO
Cover by DAVID FINCH
Variant Cover by J.SCOTT CAMPBELL
Rated A …$2.99
On-Sale—11/28/07

MESSIAH COMPLEX – PART 6 of 13
UNCANNY X-MEN #493 (OCT072133)
Written by ED BRUBAKER
Penciled by BILLY TAN
Cover by DAVID FINCH
Variant Cover by JIM CHEUNG
Rated T+ …$2.99
FOC—11/15/07, On-Sale—12/05/07

MESSIAH COMPLEX – PART 7 of 13
X-FACTOR #26 (OCT072135)
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by SCOT EATON
Cover by DAVID FINCH
Variant Cover by SIMONE BIANCHI
Rated T+ …$2.99
FOC—11/20/07, On-Sale—12/12/07

MESSIAH COMPLEX – PART 8 of 13
NEW X-MEN #45 (OCT072137)
Written by CHRISTOPHER YOST & CRAIG KYLE
Penciled by HUMBERTO RAMOS
Cover by DAVID FINCH
Variant Cover by SIMONE BIANCHI
Rated T+ …$2.99
FOC—11/29/07, On-Sale—12/19/07

MESSIAH COMPLEX – PART 9 of 13
X-MEN #206 (OCT072139)
Written by MIKE CAREY
Penciled by CHRIS BACHALO
Cover by DAVID FINCH
Variant Cover by SIMONE BIANCHI
Rated A …$2.99
FOC—12/06/07, On-Sale—12/27/07

MESSIAH COMPLEX – PART 10 of 13
UNCANNY X-MEN #494 (NOV072179)
Written by ED BRUBAKER
Penciled by BILLY TAN
Cover by DAVID FINCH
Variant Cover by SIMONE BIANCHI
Rated T+ …$2.99
On-Sale—01/04/08

MESSIAH COMPLEX – PART 11 of 13
X-FACTOR #27 (NOV072181)
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by SCOT EATON
Cover by DAVID FINCH
Variant Cover by JIM CHEUNG
Rated T+ …$2.99
FOC—12/13/07, On-Sale—01/09/08

MESSIAH COMPLEX – PART 12 of 13
NEW X-MEN #46 (NOV072183)
Written by CHRISTOPHER YOST & CRAIG KYLE
Penciled by HUMBERTO RAMOS
Cover by DAVID FINCH
Variant Cover by MARC SILVESTRI
Rated T+ …$2.99
FOC—12/20/07, On-Sale—01/16/08

MESSIAH COMPLEX – PART 13 of 13
X-MEN #207 (NOV072185)
Written by MIKE CAREY
Penciled by CHRIS BACHALO
Cover by DAVID FINCH
Variant Cover by JIM CHEUNG
Rated A …$2.99
FOC—01/03/07, On-Sale—01/23/08

X-MEN MESSIAH COMPLEX POSTER (AUG072315)
24x36 Color Poster…$6.99
On-Sale—NOW!

MARVEL SPOTLIGHT: X-MEN – MESSIAH COMPLEX (OCT072141)
Written by JOHN RHETT THOMAS
Cover by MARKO DJURDJEVIC
Rated T+ …$2.99
FOC—12/06/07, On-Sale—12/27/07

X-MEN: MESSIAH COMPLEX - MUTANT FILES (OCT072142)
Written by ERIC J. MOREELS, CHAD ANDERSON, STUART VANDAL, DAVID WILTFONG, SEAN MCQUAID, CHRIS BIGGS, MICHAEL HOSKIN, MIKE FICHERA, RONALD BYRD & MADISON CARTER
Cover by SCOTT KOLINS
Rated T+ …$3.99
FOC—12/06/07, On-Sale—12/27/07</blockquote>

[Somebody]

Well, let's hope it's not written by the current NXM writers, nor drawn by the MCX NXM artist or his immediate predecessor.

[Greywing]

Hmm... guess that's the replacement for New X-Men, which was notoriously absent from recent solicitations...

[Alextron]

Young X-men. If only it could be pushed back and back like Young Avengers and then it could be something.

Anyway, I think the writers are doing their best to do something with this House of M thing. Seriously, whose idea was that?

[MNM]

Well, let's hope it's not written by the current NXM writers, nor drawn by the MCX NXM artist or his immediate predecessor.

The hell with that! It has to be written by Yost and Kyle!

[Derek Ruiz]

New X-Men is a better title than Young X-Men just sayin...But I'll be sure to check out Young X-Men

[ljacone]

I guess Young X-Men is a sort of branding name to go with Young Avengers. Not that it makes much difference, but it would be neat in a nostalgic sort of way if they went back to using New Mutants. Or is that title unavailable for legal reasons?

[griffinlad]

New X-Men might just be the best-written X-book out there right now. And I know what you're thinking! I, too, was skeptical, but the characterization is fantastic. Everytime Rockslide speaks, I'm instantly guffawing.

[ryanrhome]

This makes me happy. While I don't understand the need to restart the title, as long as the New X-Men crowd ends up here, I'm all for it. I hope that Yost/Kyle stay on the book because it has been extremely enjoyable start to finish since they have been on hte book. I know they're doing X-Force, but there are 2 of them, maybe they can handle 2 books.

[J.C. Bakken]

I guess Young X-Men is a sort of branding name to go with Young Avengers. Not that it makes much difference, but it would be neat in a nostalgic sort of way if they went back to using New Mutants. Or is that title unavailable for legal reasons?
As I understand it, New Mutants vol. 3 is the 13 issues before New X-Men vol. 2.
New X-Men vol. 1 as written by Grant Morrison was very popular, and they thought that by giving the New Mutants the very popular name, New X-Men would sell like hoy wheatcakes.

[Sesshomaru]

Since they're on x-force i'm not sure they remain the writers fpr Young Xmen .Lets just hope it wont be someone like Daniel Way .

[Chris]

PLEASE let the New X-Men creative team continue... While they had a rough start (killing off 75% of the previous cast), New X-Men and New X-Factor are, IMO, the best written books out there. Surely with two people writing it, they can divide time between New X-Force and Young X-Men... right?



Chris (yes, I know I threw some extra "new" titles in there... )

[uscwamer]

Since they're on x-force i'm not sure they remain the writers fpr Young Xmen .Lets just hope it wont be someone like Daniel Way .


You preach amazing wisdom, but the sad thing is...i bet it's Daniel Way...man ..i will NOT be buying that. They could have Jesus draw it and i wouldn't touch it.

Course maybe they'll get a writer that doesn't suck.

[GotReekstah?]

Young X-Men
Written by Chuck Austen
Art by Igor Kordey

[Eddie Young]

Jesus can draw?

[Sesshomaru]

Nice joke but no freakin' way .. somehow i'd rather have Way instead . I actually enjoyed his ghost rider a bit , and his wolverine origins read fine in trades .

Not only i dont like Kordey's art one bit , but austen would turn new xmen into a herd of teen chimpanze obsessed with sex :D .

[Samy Merchi]

Young X-Men #1
Written by Fabian Nicieza
Art by Jim Cheung
With the original X-Men having disbanded in the wake of the Messiah Complex, mutantkind still needs heroes! With Cyclops, Emma Frost and Charles Xavier scattered around the world, it is time for the next generation's leaders to step to the forefront of the mutant struggle! When Sam Guthrie, Danielle Moonstar and Roberto da Costa decide that there is still need for an X-Men, who will they hand-pick for their new team...

[LucasSiegel]

Young X-Men
Written by Chuck Austen
Art by Igor Kordey
I'd be thrilled by a Chuck Austen comeback. Overall, I've enjoyed Brubaker's run on Uncanny much less than Austen's. Brubaker took back about 30 years of character development of Alex Summers. And this comes from someone who thinks Captain America is the best book Marvel's got!

[cookepuss]

Anybody else get the feeling that Young X-Men is going to launch in time for Young Avengers vol 2? Anyway....

Just a personal preference, but if Young X-Men can't have Kyle & Yost at the helm I'd love to see Carey on the book. The one or two times he's handled the characters in Adjectiveless he's done a great job.

In order of who I'd love to see write Young X-Men:
1) Kyle & Yost
2) Mike Carey
3) Joss Whedon (if wishes could come true *sigh*)
4) Robert Kirkman (Don't let Ultimate X-Men bias you. He still writes some of the best young adult dialog around)
5) Brian Bendis (Again, don't let his negatives get ya. Another great "teen" writer.)
6) Brian K. Vaughan (Great with teens. A little less so with the spandex crowd)
7) Sean McKeever (Between his work on Teen Titans and Sentinel... Too bad he's with DC)
8) Grant Morrison (Read his New X-Men run. The man has a way with dysfunctional mutant kids. He'd be a bit hard to reign in though.)
9) Mark Waid (LoS proves he can handle a huge cast of diverse personalities. Again... DC Grrr...)
10) Joe Quesda (If only he weren't EIC. Kind of a dark horse choice, but NYX had a big impact on his placement on this list.)


Writers who should just STAY AWAY from Young X-Men, from least to most infamous
5) Daniel Way (Okay, Wolverine Origins could be worse, but not by a lot.)
4) Fabien Nicieza (His X-cred died with grunge rock. Just look at the sorry state of Cable & Deadpool)
3) Warren Ellis (Did you ever read his Generation X work!?! Blech!!!
2) Kevin Grevioux (YES!! By Issue #6 we might actually find out the characters names!!! :rolleyes: )
1) Frank Miller (And by his issue #6, we'll have flying cars.)

COIN TOSS AWARD GOES TO....
Chuck Austen (Yeah. Yeah. Lots of CA haters here. I actually enjoyed his Uncanny run. There were some really inspired moments there. Some really cringe worthy ones too.)



As far as the name "Young X-Men".... I'm only hoping that it has more to do with team crossovers and branding and less to do with this being an young readers book, which would SUCK!!!!!! For New X-Men fans at least.

[Sesshomaru]

Chuck Austen (Yeah. Yeah. Lots of CA haters here. I actually enjoyed his Uncanny run. There were some really inspired moments there. Some really cringe worthy ones too.)

I dont hate him actually . He had a few good ideas , but even more bad ones , and his arcs while not really decompressed feel horribly long . I actually loved his exiles works .

Problem i dont think he'd get the teens mutants right , and would revert them as something from his own erotic book "strips" but with powers and fighting .

[cookepuss]

As far my dream list of as artists go....
1) Skottie Young (Still the best NX-M artist, imho)
2) Brett Blevins (Still my favorite New Mutants Vol 1 artist)
3) Jeff Matsuda
4) Art Adams
5) Sam Keith (Just read the Zero Girl LS or Craptacular B-Sides.)

[cookepuss]

I dont hate him actually . He had a few good ideas , but even more bad ones , and his arcs while not really decompressed feel horribly long . I actually loved his exiles works .

Problem i dont think he'd get the teens mutants right , and would revert them as something from his own erotic book "strips" but with powers and fighting .
I don't know. He did fairly well with Jay Guthrie's character as well as Sammy Pare. The thing is, he either writes his teenagers a bit too immature or too mature. Not much in-between with him, which is pretty important since teens are really a self-contradictory mix of both.

I think that most people are still pissed by the way he handled Nightcrawler's storylines as well as his introduction of the utterly useless StacyX. Still, I think that he wrote the best "hero" Juggernaut I've seen yet. Very human.

[GSHAG]

Dave Gabriel with the fail. i wonder how pissed the x-office is right now, lowe and alonso seem like some rough characters.

by the way why in the world did they use him instead of the editors or creators? the press releases are ususally done that way...

[FireLight]

I guess Young X-Men is a sort of branding name to go with Young Avengers. Not that it makes much difference, but it would be neat in a nostalgic sort of way if they went back to using New Mutants. Or is that title unavailable for legal reasons?

Kinda like when they rebranded the Teen Titans as Young Justice to give it a closer tie to JLA - during the Morrison era when it was doing so well in sales and popularity... and then back to Teen Titans when that hot potato cooled off...

(Granted - YJ just rocked and certainly did not need to Graduate beyond what it was - no matter how much I liked Johns work on TT - YJ was fine just the way it was. Ah - the good ole Bart days they were...)

[cookepuss]

Dave Gabriel with the fail. i wonder how pissed the x-office is right now, lowe and alonso seem like some rough characters.
Gabriel's a sales jockey. It's to be expected that he'd hawk product instead of communicating with editorial. That's just the nature of the sales personality. Sell Sell Sell My sister in-law is in sales & marketing. I know the mindset.

I also wouldn't put it past editorial to okay this leak. There are a LOT of pissed New X-Men fans right now, myself included. A sliver of hope is better than none. NXM has consistently been one of the best written X-books post HoM, even if it was underrated and under promoted.

Best to leak the info now to build the hype. Keep people guessing. For all we know, this might not be what we expect. Still, at least people are talking, which is always better than silence.



OT (sorta)....

One last thing and I'll stop thread hogging.

Anybody else tired of the name changes with this book, assuming that it's just a NXM reboot?


First, it was New Mutants.
Then it became New X-Men: Academy X.
Then it got shortened to New X-Men.
Now it looks like it'll be rebooted into Young X-Men.


Really. Different names for essentially the same concept in the same corner of the 616. Doesn't surprise me since New Mutants Vol 1 became X-Force. Although the intial reason was a direction change to an action book, it changed back to the character oriented New Mutants style drama once Nicieza left. Then you've got Generation X in the mix.

Kinda weird to see multiple X-books with the same exact concept.

New Mutants v1
X-Force (especially during the John Francis Moore years)
Generation X
New Mutants v2
New X-Men
Young X-Men

It basically amounts to a half dozen reboots or retitles for what is essentially the same book. 6+ names for the same concept/book over a 25 year period. Don't even get me started with how Uncanny was the original teen mutant book.

Basically, there was barely a span of time since 1982 when there wasn't a teen X-Men book.

Here's an idea, Marvel. Instead of rebooting or retitling the concept, stop cancelling it. (Yeah. Yeah. Sales. Money. Press. Blah Blah. :))

[hellooladiez]

Young X-Men
Written by Chuck Austen
Art by Igor Kordey



'omg anole ur so gay'

'shut up jubilee, hey why are you in this book anyway?'

'idk but hey i brought a bunch of other useless characters with me... and check it out! juggernauts here! heeyyy juggy!"

"wait is onslaught really our team leader?"

"yeah and co-leader is squid boy back from the dead... hes such a siq character he can breathe underwater he's practically the namor of the xmen without the undies and the actual good parts"

"oh wow... JUGGERNAUT, LOOK! WARRENS TOUCHING UNDERAGE GIRLS AGAIN!"

"wait, what are ANY OF YOU DOING HERE? i'm surge, this is MY team... don't you get it? angry asian rebels are the pokemon cards of the new millenium... get with the program."

"charizard, go! i mean match! god dammit you're so generic, lets kill you."

[AbacusComics]

Alright! Another X-TITLE! That's exactly what the industry needs!

[hellooladiez]

Gabriel's a sales jockey. It's to be expected that he'd hawk product instead of communicating with editorial. That's just the nature of the sales personality. Sell Sell Sell My sister in-law is in sales & marketing. I know the mindset.

I also wouldn't put it past editorial to okay this leak. There are a LOT of pissed New X-Men fans right now, myself included. A sliver of hope is better than none. NXM has consistently been one of the best written X-books post HoM, even if it was underrated and under promoted.

Best to leak the info now to build the hype. Keep people guessing. For all we know, this might not be what we expect. Still, at least people are talking, which is always better than silence.



OT (sorta)....

One last thing and I'll stop thread hogging.

Anybody else tired of the name changes with this book, assuming that it's just a NXM reboot?


First, it was New Mutants.
Then it became New X-Men: Academy X.
Then it got shortened to New X-Men.
Now it looks like it'll be rebooted into Young X-Men.


Really. Different names for essentially the same concept in the same corner of the 616. Doesn't surprise me since New Mutants Vol 1 became X-Force. Although the intial reason was a direction change to an action book, it changed back to the character oriented New Mutants style drama once Nicieza left. Then you've got Generation X in the mix.

Kinda weird to see multiple X-books with the same exact concept.

New Mutants v1
X-Force (especially during the John Francis Moore years)
Generation X
New Mutants v2
New X-Men
Young X-Men

It basically amounts to a half dozen reboots or retitles for what is essentially the same book. 6+ names for the same concept/book over a 25 year period. Don't even get me started with how Uncanny was the original teen mutant book.

Basically, there was barely a span of time since 1982 when there wasn't a teen X-Men book.

Here's an idea, Marvel. Instead of rebooting or retitling the concept, stop cancelling it. (Yeah. Yeah. Sales. Money. Press. Blah Blah. :))

agreed. i think it would have been awesome if they somehow had made every one of those books one series up until now. the xmen teams change completely so very often, itd be interesting to have seen all these different teen groups through one book series and instead of having all these different names, they had one continuing book. neat concept. i just hope the characters are handled well and hopefully they dont really start over at 1! they should change the name but still keep the numbering, thats way cooler. check out x-men legacy and incredible herc!

[madr0x]

'omg anole ur so gay'

'shut up jubilee, hey why are you in this book anyway?'

'idk but hey i brought a bunch of other useless characters with me... and check it out! juggernauts here! heeyyy juggy!"

"wait is onslaught really our team leader?"

"yeah and co-leader is squid boy back from the dead... hes such a siq character he can breathe underwater he's practically the namor of the xmen without the undies and the actual good parts"

"oh wow... JUGGERNAUT, LOOK! WARRENS TOUCHING UNDERAGE GIRLS AGAIN!"

"wait, what are ANY OF YOU DOING HERE? i'm surge, this is MY team... don't you get it? angry asian rebels are the pokemon cards of the new millenium... get with the program."

"charizard, go! i mean match! god dammit you're so generic, lets kill you."

:eek: :eek:
Dude. You have me SO hyped for this title now.
:p

[Sesshomaru]

Alright! Another X-TITLE! That's exactly what the industry needs!


hum how is it another ? its seems like it replace new xmen ...

[Dave41Fan]

The hell with that! It has to be written by Yost and Kyle!

...because they haven't killed ALL the exciting new characters created by writers with more talent?

...because we need to have ANOTHER book where X-23 will appear incessantly?

...because "creating" a Wolverine knockoff should be a lifetime meal ticket?

Bah.

[Cray_ws]

Another X-title, par for course...yet again.

Any of you figured out Marvel's song and dance yet or you just going to roll with whatever they put on the shelf with an X on it?

[Samy Merchi]

I know that the last five years or so have definitely broken me out of the "collect all the X-books" mentality. They used to be my #1 franchise, and the one that I always primarily focused on in my budget. If I had to make cuts, it would always come out of other books, not the X-books.

But during this decade, that has changed. There's been so much that I've been totally uninterested in. Most primarily, finally deciding to drop *all* Wolverine solo books, limiteds and one-shots made a lot of room, and once I'd made that decision, it was much easier to give up on any other X-book since they were much smaller fry.

[bugalugs1]

Young X-Men #1
Written by Fabian Nicieza
Art by Jim Cheung
With the original X-Men having disbanded in the wake of the Messiah Complex, mutantkind still needs heroes! With Cyclops, Emma Frost and Charles Xavier scattered around the world, it is time for the next generation's leaders to step to the forefront of the mutant struggle! When Sam Guthrie, Danielle Moonstar and Roberto da Costa decide that there is still need for an X-Men, who will they hand-pick for their new team...


Ohhhhhhh if only this was true....

[bugalugs1]

Anybody else get the feeling that Young X-Men is going to launch in time for Young Avengers vol 2? Anyway....

Writers who should just STAY AWAY from Young X-Men, from least to most infamous
4) Fabien Nicieza (His X-cred died with grunge rock. Just look at the sorry state of Cable & Deadpool).


I'm assuming by that you mean "the best x-book out there in terms of characterisation, plot and enjoyment until the next big X-over takes one of the title characters away from under you?"

[Samy Merchi]

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[cookepuss]

I'm assuming by that you mean "the best x-book out there in terms of characterisation, plot and enjoyment until the next big X-over takes one of the title characters away from under you?"
Uhmm.... Yeah. That's it. :rolleyes: Not really. ;) Just my opinion though.

C&DP has turned from one of the most solid buddy comedy books to a really sad string of jokes that just try too hard. The idea of Nate as the straight man to Wade's slapstick was often too funny to put down. With the inherent political comedy provided by Cable's fanaticism, the book was gold.

For me, the turning point was the intro of the new Six Pack. It wasn't particularly bad, but something about that point changed the flavor of the whole book. At least it started it on a path. With Cable's "death" and the introduction of Bob, Agent of Hydra, the whole dynamic changed and not necessarily for the better.

What we were left with was a series of awkwardly constructed and rehashed jokes, usually about Bea Arthur, some tubbo Agent X stuff, and some pretty pathetic sight gags like "Honey, I shrunk the merc." Wade trying to prove himself to the crime world or just trying to prove himself to readers? After a while, for me at least, it got tedious and very old. Lots of pages where stuff happened, but didn't often make a whole lot of impact or sense. Hit or miss humor. I just dropped the book a couple of issues back. Now I only flip through it at my LCS.

As far as Nicieza's other work.... hit or miss. Historically, he's had spectacularly written runs on both New Warriors and Thunderbolts. Those first 50 NW issues were a blast. Great stuff.

In the X-world, his writing was less spectacular. Very 90s in the sheer amount of excess it contained. By no means the understated action and drama of his earlier, non-X works. I don't fully think that he ever got a handle of that corner of the 616. Some people, like you, loved him in an X-capacity. I thought that his X-work was and remains mediocre at best. With the exception of his NW and early Thunderbolts stuff, he has the habit of being a bit pedestrian in the way he writes - very by the book and formulaic at times. There's this constant struggle in his work to remain relevant and contemporary, but it often feels forced and occasionally "hacky". It is often quite self-contradictory in terms of intent VS execution.

That's just my opinion though. To each his own, really. You like him? By all means. I don't dislike him. I just never want to see him on an X-book ever again. Maybe an Avengers book though.

[silvanthalas]

Anybody else tired of the name changes with this book, assuming that it's just a NXM reboot?

I tire of the overhauls to the entire line of X-books that seem to be occurring on a far too regular basis over the last few years.

[young destro]

I'll fight someone (probably a small child) If they put austen on YX. seriously. worst uncanny writer. Keep the current team on there. Its a fun read.

[Ex-Villian]

After reading Avengers Disassembled and Young Avengers, I'm wondering why X-Men Disassembled and Young X-Men are worth reading?...re-treading on thematic elements is very uncreative.

Hopefully they will have enough distinctions beyond being a different set of characters, and the concepts will be used differently. Otherwise, why waste the money if it isn't anything new...especially since we know the X-Men wll come back. The may have two teams, just like Mighty and New Avengers. True, we've had "squads" of X-Men for years, but it's not the same as having separate and distinct teams with the same name like the Avengers are currently doing.

This isn't very creative on Marvel's behalf..."Hey, the Avengers were Disassembled, let's do something similar to the X-Men since it hasn't been that long ago!...and while were at it, let's cancel the x-kids book and give it an unproper name so it can be like the Avengers, too! Sell!" With Messiah Complex actually entertaining, I expected more.

For some reason, "Young Avengers" works..."Young X-Men" sounds like a silly joke". But it's just a name. If the stories are good, the name will matter little.

[eforextinct]

Nice joke but no freakin' way .. somehow i'd rather have Way instead . I actually enjoyed his ghost rider a bit , and his wolverine origins read fine in trades .

Not only i dont like Kordey's art one bit , but austen would turn new xmen into a herd of teen chimpanze obsessed with sex :D .

Totally agree! I actually really like Daniel Way's Wolverine Origins. He's added a depth to Wolverine that I haven't seen since the late 80's early 90s.

And you're absolutely right! I don't know what austens obsession is with sex, but please do not put him on another X-title...Stacy X???...C'MON!!!

[Samy Merchi]

This isn't very creative on Marvel's behalf..."Hey, the Avengers were Disassembled, let's do something similar to the X-Men since it hasn't been that long ago!Of course, the New X-Men team started about 5 years ago...the Avengers were disassembled about three years ago...I think you've got the cart ahead of the horse...

[cookepuss]

Totally agree! I actually really like Daniel Way's Wolverine Origins. He's added a depth to Wolverine that I haven't seen since the late 80's early 90s.
Wolverine: Orgins isn't a spectacular disaster, but it is fairly disappointing. The problems with the title are pretty simple. Allow me to explain.

1) The first couple of arcs were abysmally constructed. With Jubilee, Omega Red, & Nuke in the mix it should have been a surefire hit. Sadly, nothing really gelled. The narrative was everywhere.
2) There's a pacing and decompression issue with this title that's really hurting the overall story flow. For every 6 issues, it would seem that we're getting about 3 worth of content, if that. Stuff happens to fill the issue, but not enough to move the story ahead by more than a handful of pages. If you're shelling out $3 a month and not getting back much story then you're getting ripped off.
3) Steve Dillon, while a very good artist, is not the man for the job here. W:O needs an artist that can properly convey the dark, gritty intrigue necessary for a Wolverine flashback book. Dillon is a competent artist, but tends to make all of his characters look like old school Mego dolls. This really isn't helped by the less than atmospheric coloring job.
4) Why does this book even exist? The original purpose of this book was to fill in some of the gaps in Wolverine's back story now what he's got his memory back. Unfortunately, the main Wolverine title has been doing the same thing and usually much better. This book has yet to find an identity all its own.

The book has been picking up a little lately, but it is still redundant in purpose and unnecessary in the line. Marvel is just double dipping.

I don't know what austens obsession is with sex, but please do not put him on another X-title...Stacy X???...C'MON!!!
Interestingly enough, wasn't the original character name supposed to be X-Stacy? At least that's how I remember Wizard reporting it. ANYWAY....

You have to remember one thing. Austen came on right after (another) major X-book reorganization. Titles were shifting direction. Teams were being realigned. The idea was that, for the X-Men to move into the next century, they had to explore new territories, creatively.

This is probably why Austen's run took a turn into the seedier side of things. Until that point, we hadn't been treated to much of a real underbelly for the X-world. Agree with him or not, but the idea that prostitution existed in the mutant world probably hadn't been explored before him. It was new. The same can be said for him delving more into Nightcrawler's origins, religious conspiracies, and Chamber's brush with fame/paparazzi. It might not have always been compelling or the perfect writing, but at least it was different.

Would you have preferred that he have written yet another story of Magneto attacking the mansion or Juggernaut going on a rampage of vengance? We'd seen it all before.

I'm not going to say that Chuck Austen is the perfect writer. However, his run was far from the unmitigated disaster that most people here have made it out to be. I think that the poor guy has gotten an unfair break. There were some definite highlights to his run and people have to give him some credit for at least not turning it into a rehash of Claremont's original run. Would you slam Morrison's classic run for being equally different?

[ryanrhome]

After reading Avengers Disassembled and Young Avengers, I'm wondering why X-Men Disassembled and Young X-Men are worth reading?...re-treading on thematic elements is very uncreative.

This isn't very creative on Marvel's behalf..."Hey, the Avengers were Disassembled, let's do something similar to the X-Men since it hasn't been that long ago!...and while were at it, let's cancel the x-kids book and give it an unproper name so it can be like the Avengers, too! Sell!" With Messiah Complex actually entertaining, I expected more..

I disagree with about all of your premise. First of all "X-Men Disassembled" was something put on a teaser, it is not a storyline. The disassembly of the team may well be the outcome of the Messiah Complex, but it's not like the Avengers were the first team to ever have that happen. In fact the X-Men themselves did it many times. Off the top of my head, it happened during the original run in the late 60's (I believe), it happened again in the late 80's, with many issues going by without a proper team, and most recently I believe there was The Shattering which immediately preceded "The Twelve" storyline. All of these came before Avengers doing it, so the comparison isn't really valid.

Also as for the Young Avengers vs Young X-Men...whatever you call it, there has been a "young X-Men" team more or less since 1982. Whether it was called New Mutants, Generation X, or New X-Men, the concept is the same. The Young Avengers just started a few years ago...I hardly think copying the intro adjective qualifies as copying the premise of the story. By that logic, New Thunderbolts, New X-Men, New Excalibur, New Warriors, New Avengers, and New Exiles would be all about the same thing and would be infringing on ideas. There are only so many ways to indicate that one team is an "in-training" version of another.

[Peter David]

Here's an idea, Marvel. Instead of rebooting or retitling the concept, stop cancelling it. (Yeah. Yeah. Sales. Money. Press. Blah Blah. :))

I'm tempted to joke that X-Factor will be canceled and restarted as FACTOR-X #1, but it would probably be taken seriously.

PAD

[Samy Merchi]

You know, it already *was* once...literally that. Hyphen and all. It was canceled and restarted literally as FACTOR-X #1...

...so people might have some justification in being alarmed. ;)

(Okay, granted, to people in the know, Age of Apocalypse wasn't a "cancellation", but way back when the only way of tuning in to future happenings was the Bullpen Bulletins page, it sure *felt* like one. ;) )

[mparisien]

Hi Peter... I hadn't picked up an X title in years (right around when you left X-Factor actually), happened to pick up the trade of the new X-Factor on a whim when I was trying to find something at a bookstore while I was out of town. Loved it, and liked that I was able to enjoy the book without knowing anything about the other X-titles.

But the past couple of issues that have tied in with Messiah Complex are exactly what I was afraid of. I knew going into it that a crossover was inevitable, so I'm not really surprised.

I have to chop a few titles off my immense list of books I'm buying every month.

If i stick it out through Messiah Complex, will the book still be accessible to me when its done? Or is X-Factor going to be tighter knit with the rest of the X-Books? I don't want to drop the book, but I am concerned with the direction it may take.

Regardless, I'm happy sales are up and I hope the book stays successful.

[cookepuss]

EDIT>>>> Nevermind. Dumb joke. :)

[Mindblower]

YOUNG X-MEN #1
Written by: C.B. CEBULSKI
Pencils and Cover by: JIM CHEUNG
Variatn Cover by: CHRIS BACHALO
"RELAUNCH" Part 1 of 3
Their teammates are now buried and their memories now lost, but will Professor Charles Xavier's attempt at a new beginning cost his remaining young students their lives? With all that they have lost already, which students will give up, which students will take up Selene's offer and which students are strong enough to become the YOUNG X-MEN?
32 PGS./Rated T+...$2.50

[ryanrhome]

YOUNG X-MEN #1
Written by: C.B. CEBULSKI
Pencils and Cover by: JIM CHEUNG
Variatn Cover by: CHRIS BACHALO
"RELAUNCH" Part 1 of 3
Their teammates are now buried and their memories now lost, but will Professor Charles Xavier's attempt at a new beginning cost his remaining young students their lives? With all that they have lost already, which students will give up, which students will take up Selene's offer and which students are strong enough to become the YOUNG X-MEN?
32 PGS./Rated T+...$2.50

Is this the real solicitation? If so, it actually sounds pretty cool. Where/how did you get this?

[J. Dincauze]

obviously not... Marvel doesn't sell any books for $2.50.

Plus, they probably have better places to use Cheung's talents. He should be the one drawing Mighty Avengers.

[Yaw]

Young X-Men
Written by Chuck Austen
Art by Igor Kordey
i spit water through my nose when I read this.:D

[Starleafgirl]

Is this the real solicitation? If so, it actually sounds pretty cool. Where/how did you get this?

J. Dincauze has a point... why would they sell it for 2.50? But Cebulski and Bachalo on a title would = SOLD to me!

Not to mention Mindblower is the person who said he'd sell his left kidney -- I mean, kill off Hollow -- to have Cebulski write Young X-Men. I doubt he'd post something like that without following it up with a bunch of exclamation points and number ones.

[hellooladiez]

YOUNG X-MEN #1
Written by J.K. Rowling
Pencils by Pablo Picaso

Siryn, Cannonball, and Wolfsbane venture out to Muir Isle to re-create the Muir Island Research Center. Along with the rest of X-Factor, Havok, Polaris, Archangel, Iceman, and Beast, plus the entire Xavier student body, they are searching for a cure for the mutant population... but then... WHAT IS NORTHSTAR DOING WITH RICHARD SIMMONS?? WARPATH IS DOING A CATALIEN? SIRYN=SEDUCTRESS AKA STACY X?? SURGE SHOOTS LIGHTNIN' AT MERCURY A COUPLEZ'A'TIMES??/ X23 GOES HEAD TO HEAD WITH HER DEADLIEST FOES... WOLVERINE'S REAL CHILDREN... WOLF CUB, WOLFSBANE, SABRETOOTH, MAXIMUS LOBO, AND... JACK NICHOLSON??

[ziza9]

YOUNG X-MEN #1
Written by J.K. Rowling
Pencils by Pablo Picaso

Siryn, Cannonball, and Wolfsbane venture out to Muir Isle to re-create the Muir Island Research Center. Along with the rest of X-Factor, Havok, Polaris, Archangel, Iceman, and Beast, plus the entire Xavier student body, they are searching for a cure for the mutant population... but then... WHAT IS NORTHSTAR DOING WITH RICHARD SIMMONS?? WARPATH IS DOING A CATALIEN? SIRYN=SEDUCTRESS AKA STACY X?? SURGE SHOOTS LIGHTNIN' AT MERCURY A COUPLEZ'A'TIMES??/ X23 GOES HEAD TO HEAD WITH HER DEADLIEST FOES... WOLVERINE'S REAL CHILDREN... WOLF CUB, WOLFSBANE, SABRETOOTH, MAXIMUS LOBO, AND... JACK NICHOLSON??

For JK to write the book there would have had to have been a graphic novel/character done first by Neil Gaiman. Something that she could reimagine if you will. :D

Greg Land could definitely fill in nicely for Picasso. Lightboxes pick up anything nowadays. :D

[ryanrhome]

For JK to write the book there would have had to have been a graphic novel/character done first by Neil Gaiman. Something that she could reimagine if you will. :D

Greg Land could definitely fill in nicely for Picasso. Lightboxes pick up anything nowadays. :D

Thinly veiled Harry Potter jab? What did Gaiman do that JK "reimagined"?

[jonnynyc]

LITG says Matt Fraction. That would be perfection.

[PhilipAMoore]

Thinly veiled Harry Potter jab? What did Gaiman do that JK "reimagined"?
some idiots like to live under the delution that Harry Potter was inspired by Timothy Hunter (The Books of Magic) . when both writers Gaiman and Rowling both clame this is not true I am going to take there word for it. Gaiman from what I hear is a big fan of Harry
and points out that the simularity are to to close to be anything but coincedence had Jk really been ripping off the books of magic she would have changed allot more detailes
gaiman's words not mine

good day

[PhilipAMoore]

LITG says Matt Fraction. That would be perfection.

I would not be in a rush to declare Matt the new writer just yet Rich only put that out as a possibility from interviews with Craig Kyle and Cristopher Yost it sounded to me like they weren't done yet it sounds to me like Marvel is relaunching New Xmen but it does not sound like it the writing team is leaving ussualy Marvel will say if there is going to be a new team even if they dont say who it is
not only that but they mention Xmen Legacy which is the name change given to Mike Cary's Xmen
last thing to think about that Matt fraction has very little experince with team up books
good day

[ryanrhome]

I would not be in a rush to declare Matt the new writer just yet Rich only put that out as a possibility from interviews with Craig Kyle and Cristopher Yost it sounded to me like they weren't done yet it sounds to me like Marvel is relaunching New Xmen but it does not sound like it the writing team is leaving ussualy Marvel will say if there is going to be a new team even if they dont say who it is
not only that but they mention Xmen Legacy which is the name change given to Mike Cary's Xmen
last thing to think about that Matt fraction has very little experince with team up books
good day


That's good. I really hope that at least the writing team stays on the book, I have really enjoyed pretty much everything they have done with these characters. There hasn't really been a consistent artist on the book, and i haven't really cared for the Ramos art that much. I really liked whoever drew the book when Yost/Kyle took over the books. Was that Medina? That was really good stuff.

[ziza9]

Edited post: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[CaptainCanad]

I don't believe K/Y are sticking around; they're heavily involved in Marvel's animated projects, and have said they're "graduating" to X-Force; makes me think that their NXM stories are over (taking some of their plots, such as the Wither/Selene one, with them). I believe they said they've only time for one, as well.

[hellooladiez]

it would be really interesting to see wither in x-force as a part of the team. eventually they're going to have to add new characters, hopefully he's one.

if they become the young x-men, itd be nice to see them all with individual costumes, and not just the different color-schemed suits they had before. and no x's all over, thats gross. the best x-men ever created went years without x's on their costumes... storm, nightcrawler, wolverine, archangel, cyclops (in 70s and 80s at least), collossus... these characters will only be able to stick around in the marvel universe if they have a distinguished look that could fit anywhere in the marvel universe and not just in an x-men spinoff title.

[hellooladiez]

DHUFHUDGHUGOGOIJ

[Starleafgirl]

ahh my anatomy is completely off because i drew them in pen and they took me basically 5 minutes but you get the idea. i think they'd be cool costume designs, at least for a few issues. the purple pixie one is sort of a joke, it looks very 1987.

Pretty. :) Really like the Armor one.

[Thephanboy]

i noticed that new x men was in the new solicitations so im glad that in some way these characters arent goin away. i liked new x men anyway

[Ann Nichols]

"To meet the overwhelming demand for this issue, Marvel is going back to press with X-Factor #26 Second Printing Variant, featuring the interior art of fan-favorite Scot Eaton on a new cover!"

As written, the above implies that ALL of the interior art of Mr. Eaton will be appearing on a new cover.

Did Marvel mean that the second printing will be "featuring a page taken from the interior art by fan-favorite Scot Eaton that is being used for a new cover!"

OR

"with a new cover by fan-favorite Scot Eaton, who drew the interior art for #26"?

:confused:

By the way, Mr. Austen did not create Stacy-X. She first appeared in "Uncanny X-Men" #399, which was written by Mr. Joe Casey.

Here's a link to a summary of that issue:

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=507

Here's one for #400, also by Mr. Casey, where you may learn more about what the Church of Humanity and its Supreme Pontiff were like before Mr. Austen wrote the hilariously stupid* "Holy War," which appeared in "Uncanny" #423-424:

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=565

*See a plot against the Catholic Church which demonstrates no understanding of how the Pope is elected, chooses a publically-known mutant to pretend is Satan, and relies on Protestant theology (not to mention that it has Catholic or formerly Catholic characters quoting from The New Revised Standard Version Bible, which is a Protestant translation, from memory).

Mr. O'Brien's review of UXM #424 skewers the issue better than I could:

http://www.thexaxis.com/uncannyxmen/uncannyxmen424.htm

That story was reprinted in the Uncanny X-Men: Holy War TPB, ISBN-10: 0785111336 and ISBN-13: 978-0785111337 (issues #421-427), which is out of print.