Do you have a problem with Superman crying?

[Zabardast]

I don't, as long as it's something significant. I know some people were criticizing over that Final Crisis teaser awhile back with him crying, but we don't know what it was even about, so how can you complain already? Like if Lois, Ma or Pa Kent died, is that really something to make fun of? Or Supergirl dying in COIE? Crying on a handful of occasions in 50 years, does that really make him emo? I'm not saying I want him to cry in every issue, but whenever something big happens throughout the years, yes I do, to not do so would really dehumanize him in my opinion. Thoughts?

[Caramuru]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Caramuru/cookie.jpg

:p

[Edogawa1983]

what's with this men can't cry thing, he can cry all he wants to. BTW Superman sucks! :p

[Sunspot_616]

Big macho warrior men cry too...

There was a passage in Homer´s Illiad where Agamenon took away Aquiles´ slave, Briseis, so he went crying to the beach and told to his mummy: "He took my slave, bad man ! Bad !"

Aquiles is such an emo.

[Violator]

I think the issue was that for awhile we saw more tears from Superman than action.

There's nothing wrong with crying. In fact, I wouldn't trust anyone who said they've never cried.

[Chitty]

Big macho warrior men cry too...

There was a passage in Homer´s Illiad where Agamenon took away Aquiles´ slave, Briseis, so he went crying to the beach and told to his mummy: "He took my slave, bad man ! Bad !"

Aquiles is such an emo.

I wish was my grass was emo, because then it would cut itself.

[SouthtownKid]

I don't have a problem with him crying...

EXCEPT...

...it has now lost all meaning because it happens too often. When he cried in CoIE for Supergirl's death, or 'Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow', or the handful of times pre-Crisis he cried, it freaking meant something, because it wasn't an everyday occurrence.

Now they've got him crying for vague things like a promotional poster, and it doesn't make any sense. I mean, that's not even a specific event -- it's representative of something. It's overkill. There is no sense of scale, because DC has made it seem like he'll cry for anything.

[skyking]

I don't have a problem with him crying...

EXCEPT...

...it has now lost all meaning because it happens too often. When he cried in CoIE for Supergirl's death, or 'Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow', or the handful of times pre-Crisis he cried, it freaking meant something, because it wasn't an everyday occurrence.


I agree with you 100%.

[Caramuru]

The problem is not Superman crying. The problem is when it's done in an cheap, over-sentimental way, like in black velvet paintings of clowns crying.

(Oh, poor Superman! He's crying! It must be because something really bad happened to him. I like Superman, so seeing him cry makes me :(.)

I think some emotional subtlety in comics can go a long way.

[ElijahSnowFan]

i have no problem with Superman crying if, and only if, they show the opposite end of the emotional spectrum and have him get pissed every once in a while, too.

that's what i see as the biggest problem -- if you're going to show him in moments of weakness, balance that with moments of strength, where he gets pissed and tears somebody/something a new....you know.:o

[mike616]

The problem is not Superman crying. The problem is when it's done in an cheap, over-sentimental way, like in black velvet paintings of clowns crying.

(Oh, poor Superman! He's crying! It must be because something really bad happened to him. I like Superman, so seeing him cry makes me :(.)

I think some emotional subtlety in comics can go a long way.He cries because that's what Tom Welling does in Smallville all the damn time,so the edcit is Supes must cry so that the 15% of Smallville fans who acttually read comics will feel comfrotable reading Superman.

[kamikazi]

I don't know about Supes, but I just watched Spidey 3 and the man cries too damn often. I actually like that movie (unlike many posters) but seriously...Sandman cries at the end too...people with superpowers should not cry so much. Go punch some **** instead when you feel the tears welling up.

[MrBanshee]

and look at the cover for Justice League of America #14. He's at it again!:p
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[Frank Cho]

Superman = Big Pu$$y ;)

http://content.imagesocket.com/images/CHOMarcNathanWedding587.jpg

[BubbaKanoosh]

Superman = Big _____. ;)

http://content.imagesocket.com/images/CHOMarcNathanWedding587.jpg


oh shap

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[BubbaKanoosh]

I caught before the edit..

:p

[Zabardast]

Superman = Big Pu$$y ;)

http://content.imagesocket.com/images/CHOMarcNathanWedding587.jpg
not gonna lie, that's pretty funny :D

[alexeiluthor]

Superman doesn't cry.

He gets even.

[BillReed]

Superman can cry, yes, and I'm sure he has. But he will never cry when he can act instead.

[num48champ]

Superman = Big Pu$$y ;)

http://content.imagesocket.com/images/CHOMarcNathanWedding587.jpg
I totally 100% agree. :)

[Zabardast]

I totally 100% agree. :)
Get out of my thread! :mad: :p

[num48champ]

Emo man to the rescue!

[Equinox]

I voted for "Only for something tragic" but it should be "For something TRULY tragic." Superman has emotions just like anyone, and he should be allowed to show them, but Superman is who everyone else looks to. If they look to Superman and he's crying again, it's like "Oh, great, we're really f<aaa>ucked now." Superman should be the one to inspire everyone when something tragic happens, like in Fellowship of the Ring when Aragorn rallies the Fellowship after Galdalf dies. He felt it like they all did, but he knew they needed to press on. And then, when Boromir dies in combat, Aragorn allows himself a few tears for his brother in arms, but then gets back up and does the hero thing again.

Superman is like Aragorn, or at least he ought to be.

[hadez]

I agree with Equinox, and many others about the crying. It's now a cheap gimmick to sell more events.

And to Mr. Cho, I gotta say: Awesome :D

[HartyPotter]

Superman can cry, yes, and I'm sure he has. But he will never cry when he can act instead.
I definitely think this should be the governing principle.

[loosecannon]

I loved the Frank Cho piece, not gonna lie, but I love the irony/symbolism of Superman crying. It's ironic in that he's an alien, but he still so powerfully feels our emotions; simultaneously, it's symbolic of the universal nature of emotions: even an alien can cry.

Long story short, I don't mind Superman crying. I don't think it's "overdone" and as long as they keep it that way, I think it's fine.

[ApacheDick]

If this were still Pre-Crisis, Superman would have Super Tears.

And Kleenex would come with essence of Kryptonite to help stop them.

[Amethyst Rose]

and look at the cover for Justice League of America #14. He's at it again!:p
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Man, this pic is SCREAMING for a caption!

"OMG! We did a show called Super Friends?"


Oh, and Supes does have a human side. Emotion is part of it. So is the ripping of new you-know-whats.

[Salieri]

Superman is like Aragorn, or at least he ought to be.

Exactly. Exactly right.

[kataang]

Only when something tragic happens

[Dragavon]

Oh, and Supes does have a human side. Emotion is part of it. So is the ripping of new you-know-whats.
Except he never does that. He always acts as a model of restraint. Since they never show his bad-assery, and they do show him breaking down into tears, he comes off as wimp.

[SpaceButler]

It's odd. I don't remember Superman crying inside an actual comic since the end of Our Worlds at War when he thought his parents were dead, Lois' dad had died, Diana's mom had died, and Kansas was half burnt to the ground. I have seen the covers and the promos, but when was the last time in recent memory we actually saw him cry in story?

Oh and I voted for him crying when something tragic happens like when he's in Hell in that Neil Gaiman story and he realizes there's too many souls for him to do anything about. Oh, there we go, thats another one. :D Anyhow I think he can cry when it's warranted, he has emotions after all.

Also I think Superman is shown as being angry pretty often. The inside of JLofA #14 he never actually cries but he does get ridiculously angry at Luthor. He's not as restrained as he seems.

PS. Was he crying at Sue's funeral?

[astronato]

Maybe a misty eye in a time of terrible tragedy. But even then it should be rare. He is THE leader of the DCU heroes.

But no sobbing. Crying is for girls.

[jackwtweeg]

Lying makes Superman cry. So everytime a Batman fan lies and says Batman would beat him in a fight, he cries.

[DBHughes]

Superman; man up.

[I Am Bemused]

Like people have said, if it's occasional it's fine. It only loses it's meaning if it happens too often. Plus, a good cry every now and again is a good thing. I bawled my eyes out last night when I saw Schindler's List for the first time (granted, I was horribly stoned at the time). So, all in all, I'm fine with it.

[LowKey Loki]

did we ever learn why he was crying on the teaser image? Has whatever makes him cry in that image happened yet?

[Arion]

I think the issue was that for awhile we saw more tears from Superman than action.

There's nothing wrong with crying. In fact, I wouldn't trust anyone who said they've never cried.

Superman can cry, but he can't cry all the time.

[sweetmisery]

Not at all, good men cry a lot. That doesnt make them less than they are!

[LowKey Loki]

Not at all, good men cry a lot. That doesnt make them less than they are!

I would never say good men cry a lot. A lot of good men may cry though.