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jrp001
10-19-2007, 11:40 AM
Aquaman and Hawkman/girl are down for the count. We all no that their series will be back-most likely sometime after Final Crisis. What would DC need to do get your $$?

Post your dream creative team and/or plot synopsis.


Aquman: The Return - (mini 8 issues) Morrison/Benes resurrect the King of Atlantis, the one the only Orin.

Hawkman & Hawkgirl - (ongoing) Willingham/Morales tell a globe spanning tale of adventure and treasure hunting.

T.Shock
10-19-2007, 12:44 PM
I think the problem with Aquaman is that he is supposedly an A-list superhero and is written with a lot of editorial constraint but he lacks the rogues of a Batman, GL, Flash, etc. and you know wears that costume.

So if you can't invent a good rogues gallery for Aquaman, then turn the book into an examination of Atlantaen society in general specifically placing Aquaman in the Arthurian role.

Zabardast
10-19-2007, 12:49 PM
I like your Hawkman idea but I would also like to see Johns and Eaglesham do a Hawkman monthly. :cool:

jrp001
10-19-2007, 01:06 PM
I think the problem with Aquaman is that he is supposedly an A-list superhero and is written with a lot of editorial constraint but he lacks the rogues of a Batman, GL, Flash, etc. and you know wears that costume.

So if you can't invent a good rogues gallery for Aquaman, then turn the book into an examination of Atlantaen society in general specifically placing Aquaman in the Arthurian role.
Totally agree!

that's why I think a mini should be done to RE-establish Orin, Tempest, Mera, The underseas kingdoms, Hell even Joseph.

once the Aqua-Stage is set, i think the Ongoing could launch hopefully with Clownfish as the first if his new rogues.

taconinja
10-19-2007, 01:31 PM
Totally agree!

that's why I think a mini should be done to RE-establish Orin, Tempest, Mera, The underseas kingdoms, Hell even Joseph.

once the Aqua-Stage is set, i think the Ongoing could launch hopefully with Clownfish as the first if his new rogues.
I said this in another thread, but I will say it again.

I firmly believe Williams was on his way to resurrecting Arthur/Orin (much like his namesake, King Arthur Pendragon) and reestablishing Atlantis with Joseph being the king's knight errant. I'm just sad that it wasn't allowed to come to fruition.

I think I might write Paul Levitz a letter asking for a miniseries written by Williams as a second chance for this storyline.

jrp001
10-19-2007, 01:40 PM
I said this in another thread, but I will say it again.

I firmly believe Williams was on his way to resurrecting Arthur/Orin (much like his namesake, King Arthur Pendragon) and reestablishing Atlantis with Joseph being the king's knight errant. I'm just sad that it wasn't allowed to come to fruition.

again I agree. And that was the one reason I picked up Williams run - from all his interviews he talked about linking every aspect of aquaman. that intrigued me

I think I might write Paul Levitz a letter asking for a miniseries written by Williams as a second chance for this storyline.

I think the only chance of getting Aquaman relaunched is with a PREMIER creative team. Given the "all over the mapness" of the last 3 years of Auqaman stories (not a criticism of the writing/art; but rather of the editorially mandated plot points) I think to make an A-book successful DC will need to make a splash. and no one gets more of a splash that Morrison or Benes. I am not some kool aid drinker, rather I just want the character to have a chance of a successful run.

KirkWarren
10-19-2007, 01:45 PM
More than likely there will be a "Return of the New Gods" title or series spinning out of Final Crisis. I doubt anyone would kill off an entire line of long time characters and deprive themselves of the monetary gains they'd get if they were still "alive". I expect a full relaunch of them after FC.

StevieCool
10-19-2007, 01:48 PM
Give me something gimmicky with the B-listers

How about a DC elementals?
Aquaman, Hawkman, Geo Force, Fire

SouthtownKid
10-19-2007, 01:58 PM
Having recently read the Pfeifer/Gleason all-too-short run, I don't know what to say. That run had EVERYTHING...great characters, great premise, great, compelling stories, and great art. The only thing it lacked was exposure. I came on board for 'Sword of Atlantis' because DC made a big deal out of it (and the creative team, of course)... If DC had pushed Aquaman that hard at the beginning of Sub Diego, I have to believe I would have been buying it all along from that point on, because the extreme high quality was apparent from only a couple pages in.

I for one, never once looked at the Sub Diego stuff while it was actually on the stands-- I had no idea anything different was happening since the launch which had (again) failed to catch my interest. But finally reading it now, I enjoyed it nearly as much as I did the Skeates/Aparo reprints I read as a kid. I love a lot of new stuff, but it's extremely rare for me when something like this can kind of overtake something fueled on extreme, biased nostalgia. I believe DC let it die on the vine by lack of promotion.

I honestly don't know how much better an Aquaman book can ever be than the Pfeifer/Gleason stuff. If DC couldn't make a go of that one, I'm not sure any Aquaman series will sell in the current market.

K-DoG7p7
10-19-2007, 02:14 PM
Give me something gimmicky with the B-listers

How about a DC elementals?
Aquaman, Hawkman, Geo Force, Fire
Geo Force and Fire are elementals but not Aquaman and defenitly not Hawkman..
Red Tornado and Cyclone are elementals..
Aquaman is not but Tempest is.. Ice too.. but only in solid form..

SouthtownKid
10-19-2007, 02:44 PM
I remember when they turned Firestorm into an "elemental", and all respect to Ostrander, whose work I love, but it was the stupidest direction possible, imo. I hate shoehorning a character into an unrelated concept. Shoehorning 4 unrelated characters into some arbitrary elemental team up combination would be even worse to me.

If nothing else, it would completely cheapen the greatness of Hawkman.

jrp001
10-19-2007, 02:54 PM
If nothing else, it would completely cheapen the greatness of Hawkman.


or return him to his post Zero Hour greatness... :p

vbartilucci
10-19-2007, 02:55 PM
The Challengers of the Unknown

In all the Megaverse, they are literally unique. They exist outside the sight of Destiny himself. And they spend their lives going further than the rest, fighting greater odds and seeking greater heights.

And there still so much we don't know.

Kamandi

"Of all the words of Tongue or Pen, the saddest are these: 'It Might Have Been'."

The heroes lost. Society crumbled. The Megaverse was destroyed.
At least...they did HERE.

When Final Crisis was averted, the possibility of loss was so great, that it split off into its own distinct timeline. And hundreds of years after the Great Disaster, the survivors of the planet Earth battle the dregs of the galaxy who continue to peck at the carcass of the planet, stealing what they can.

Only Brother Eye, the last piece of high technology left, stands in defense of the extenction of the human race, not to mention the rest of the population of the planet. Mutants, Pseudoids (incredibly long-lived artificial beings based on Waynetech's Pseudo People) and a plethora of intelligant animal races live in nervous harmony, united only due to the threat from the stars.

But when Eye's champion, OMAC, is lost, the planet's only hope is the distant decendant of the man who created the Brother Eye program in the first place.

Will the contents of bunker "Command D" save the Earth, or seal its fate?

OMAC - One Man - A Chance

Buddy Blank will be born tomorrow.

His multi-great-grandson will see to that.

An energy blast from a Dominator war cannon threw Brother Eye's champion across time and space. He is trapped centuries before his own time. He has to find a way home, one way or another.

There's a couple problems...

1) He has no powers.
2) He knows the future, and it's one he'd like to prevent
3) The future he knows if from a different timeline

He wants to help. He won't.

(Basically, the end of these two books will dovetail. No fair asking what happens.)

biffordmichael
10-19-2007, 02:56 PM
yet another Legion Of Super-Heroes re-vamp I fear...

Biff

Johnny Triangles
10-19-2007, 03:01 PM
Countdown to New Dilemma - a twice a week book counts down to New Dilemma, DC's next big crossover. every writer and artist with a DC exclusive will contribute, along with various freelancers.

deri
10-19-2007, 06:08 PM
yet another Legion Of Super-Heroes re-vamp I fear...

Biff

... Maybe. Just so Chris will have a completely different Legion as well. Like Kon. And Supergirl.

nwspencer
10-19-2007, 07:58 PM
Aquaman: Rebirth by Geoff and Ethan.

There. Fixed everything.

jrp001
10-19-2007, 08:08 PM
Aquaman: Rebirth by Geoff and Ethan.

There. Fixed everything.

shouldn't that be Aquaman" WaterBirth?

Zig Zag Wanderer
10-19-2007, 08:12 PM
The Challengers of the Unknown

Kamandi

OMAC - One Man - A Chance


I really like these. Nicely done.

I wouldn't mind seeing a monthly featuring the space-based characters (Adam Strange, Starfire, Captain Comet & Tyrone, etc.), but it's probably a hard sell.

Kid Impulse
10-19-2007, 08:21 PM
Mark Waid's awesome Aquaman pitch

BillReed
10-19-2007, 11:05 PM
Aquaman: Rebirth by Geoff and Ethan.

There. Fixed everything.

No, you've broken it further.

drastic_q
10-19-2007, 11:55 PM
Not elementals, but I had a similar idea:

Aquaman & Hawkman team book -- Sea and Air. Though, add Geo Force and you get Land, Sea, and Air.