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MattBrady
02-21-2003, 09:18 AM
<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/Cyke.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/Cyke_t.jpg" width="175" height="255" border="0" hspace="2" align="right"></a>click on the images for larger, readable versions...

Along with prequels, an adaptation, a God Loves, Man Kills reprint, and trades out the wazoo, Marvel’s “meaty“ tie-in to May’s X2, aimed directly at long-term and lapses X-Men fans is clearly Marvel Encyclopedia Volume 2: X-Men, due in April. Clocking in at 240 pages and over 400 profiles, the Encyclopedia is geared to fully embrace the 40+ year history of the mutants. Newsarama caught up with researcher Eric Moreels and editor Jeff Youngquist for more.

According to Youngquist, the decision to go back to the Encyclopedia well came when numbers started rolling in on the first volume of the Marvel Encyclopedia last year. “Volume 1 -- the Marvel Encyclopedia - was a huge success, especially in the bookstore market, so it only stood to reason that there would be a follow-up of some kind,” Youngquist said. “With X2 right around the corner, and given the vast library of X-Men-related characters, the choice of subject matter was obvious for us.”

Despite the publisher’s current lighter touch on X-continuity and history than it has had in the past, to fill the pages of the hardcover, more than just the core team members and supporting casts were going to have to be included. By the same token, if more characters than the usual suspects were going to be included, some heavy research was going to be needed, given the target audience’s familiarity with the subject.

While he was responsible for creating a large number of them, Chris Claremont could not afford to devote the time and energy necessary to creating profiles for the characters to be included in the volume, so for the raw data, Marvel turned to Eric Moreels, the founder of the X-Fan website.

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/Cyke2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/Cyke2_t.jpg" width="175" height="255" border="0" hspace="2" align="left"></a> "Eric's extensive knowledge of the X-Men universe proved to an essential resource as our researcher/writer," Youngquist said. “With so many entries, and given a tight deadline necessitated by our desire to get the book into stores in time for X2, we needed to put a system in place that would allow our writer -- the brilliant Syd Barney-Hawke -- to do just that: write. We didn't want her to spend all her time rooting through back-issues and trade paperbacks for example, trying to pin down the first appearance of Ahab - Fantastic Four Annual #23, by the way. Eric's extensive knowledge of the X-Men universe proved to be an essential resource in that regard.”

Moreels involvement with the X-Men Encyclopedia began when the first volume was announced. "When Marvel first announced they were doing a new Official Handbook-style project, which ended up being the first volume of the Marvel Encyclopedia I contacted managing editor David Bogart and expressed an interest in working on it,” Moreels said. “Whilst that didn't pan out, apparently my offer stuck with David and when the second X-Men volume came around he, Collections Editor Jeff Youngquist, and editor Mark Beazley approached me with the offer to do research on the new book.”

“Eric would submit extremely detailed research on each character -- essentially chronicling their every appearance --which Syd would craft into the finished entries you'll see in the book,” Youngquist said. “As with the Marvel Encyclopedia, we attempted to cut to the core of each character, employing continuity only as a means to emphasize character. In addition to Syd and Eric, the team needed to pull off something like this was massive, and included my brother-in-arms, co-editor Mark Beazley; assistant editor Jen Grünwald; copy editor Sarah Fan; art director Matty Ryan; and designers Patrick McGrath, Tim Smith III and Victor Gonzalez. Tom Marvelli of Marvel's Creative Services Department designed our dust jacket, and the cover underneath the jacket itself was painted by Gabriel Dell'Otto. And major props go to Jen Chan, Wing Lee & Erik Ko of UDON, who recolored some vintage artwork for use in the book.”

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/Colossus.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/Colossus_t.jpg" width="175" height="277" border="0" hspace="2" align="right"></a> Research for the volume took Moreels over two months, using resources such as the original Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, bios located on Marvel's own web site, and the recent Marvel Encyclopedia as well as re-reading a large number of back issues – all necessary, given the scope of the project.

"This project was a bit more complex than last year's Marvel Encyclopedia, which weighed in with about 150 characters." explained Youngquist. "The X-Men Encyclopedia includes around 400 entries. That means we had to assemble artwork on 400 characters, some of whom haven't appeared anywhere in quite a few years -- and some of whom, like members of the Acolytes and Shi'ar Imperial Guard, only appeared in one or two issues, or in extreme cases, one or two panels.”

To fit everyone in, the X-Men Encyclopedia will have a modified format compared to last year’s volume. “Let's face it: Once you get past the first-tier heroes and villains, not every characters deservers a full-page entry,” Youngquist said. “In the X-Men Encyclopedia, some characters get two pages, some get one and some get half a page. There are even quarter-page entries and third-of-a-page entries. That fact enabled us to include a great many more characters than the Marvel Encyclopedia.”

<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/Dazzler.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/Dazzler_t.jpg" width="175" height="284" border="0" hspace="2" align="left"></a>Despite the 400 entries, Moreels confessed that there are some that he wished that would have been included, "I was hoping we'd have room to spotlight the X-Men: Evolution characters,” Moreels said. “Similarly some of the teams that have sections in the book, like the Morlocks and the Imperial Guard, there just wasn't enough room to include every character that has been a member, but we did get the majority of them in there."

Youngquist gave an example of the detail level: “Let's see ... 27 Acolytes, 28 Morlocks and 34 members of the Shi'ar Imperial Guard,” the editor said. “And we tried to be as current as possible. For example, there's an entry for Maximus Lobo, a new villain presently appearing in the pages of Uncanny X-Men.”

Given the success of the first volume, and the “shooting fish in a bucket” potential for sales on Volume 2, Youngquist said he and Beazley are looking at ways to expand the format, and return to the well again. "Fan response to the Marvel and X-Men Encyclopedias has been overwhelming, so it's safe to say that, yes, there will be future volumes,” Youngquist said. “There are definitely more volumes on the table, but it's a little too early to discuss them right now.”

Chris Partin contributed to this article

manosx
02-21-2003, 09:29 AM
Most excellent. This will rock!!!! I can't wait to read this, this will be my Father's Day gift to myself. :cool: :cool: :cool:

BTW: My first first post ever!!!!! I know it's sad and dorky but cool beans!!!!

gOgIver
02-21-2003, 02:02 PM
A Question for you X-Perts. What is the full address of the X-Mansion? I know it's on Greymalkin Lane in West Chester, Salem County , New York but what's the street address? :confused:

Jake Ivers
02-21-2003, 02:24 PM
I don't buy X-Men now...but even this interests me. However...hopefully Vol. 3 will be Avengers????

Now *that* I would buy.

MindTricked
02-21-2003, 02:31 PM
I've already ordered mine, and yeah - I'm looking forward to geeking out on it. An Avengers book? That's the next logical step and, if done with the apparent thoroughness of this project, would "rock" as well. I'd like a Spidey book, but with all the retconning/ignoring of continuity, plus the fact that there probably aren't enough notable characters to fill a book the size of the current Encyclopedias, makes me think that's a pipe dream.

Oh - still love the UDON Dazzler, and there's a 1 and a 6, I believe, in that Graymalkin addy, but the numbers escape me (thank goodness - I already have an overabundance of useless info running rampant in my mind) :) .

J.C. Bakken
02-21-2003, 03:15 PM
Why don't I just re-route my pay-check to Marvel.
I wise man said once, "Ball and chunk's is were it's at", and if this is as tasty as it looks, by Thor I will get it!

On the matter Spidey-encyclopedia, as a reserve member of Avengers, he could fit in there, but for a stand alone book, it would have to bring in villans as well as the huge support cast, including Reily's, Maydays and assorted other femal spiders.
But then again, Jessica Drew did a stint in Wolverine, and a couple of guest-spots in UWM and No. 2 "did time" with Freedom Force. And hey, there we have USAgent as well.

Anyways, Ms. Drew could get inside the Avengers one(how many time can I avoid typing encyclopedia), as with The Fantastic Four, Doc. Strange and David Letterman.

It could be huge as well.

Paul Hamilton
02-21-2003, 05:42 PM
I don't get this. What is the point of making an encuclopedia using information that, for the most part, is going to be ignored?
We all know continuity isn't really followed anymore, and quite a few of the characters in this will have been pointlessly killed off recently.
Aside from all that, surely most people who are into the X-Men enough to buy this, already know most of the information in the book? If it was even going to be a useful reference tool for fans, the characters getting half a page are the ones they are going to look up, not the ones that are given 2 pages.
It'll be good for kids that have just dicsovered the X-Men with the movie, and maybe a few comic fans who never really bothered with the title but recently got into it, but again how much of this history is ever going to get referred to again?
If you want background, you'd be better picking up the Essential books. At least you get a story with those.

Hdefined
02-21-2003, 06:17 PM
Did they mention what the price tag was going to be? I'm not interested though, I'd much rather go hunt down the old Official Handbook, those were so great, but pretty expensive for their time

DrDoom
02-21-2003, 06:41 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by gOgIver:
<strong>A Question for you X-Perts. What is the full address of the X-Mansion? I know it's on Greymalkin Lane in West Chester, Salem County , New York but what's the street address? :confused: </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wait until 2 april then you will know it or ... NOT :)

MindTricked
02-21-2003, 07:20 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Hdefined:
<strong>Did they mention what the price tag was going to be? I'm not interested though, I'd much rather go hunt down the old Official Handbook, those were so great, but pretty expensive for their time</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I believe it's $29.95. I'm at work, and my Previews is at home, but if memory serves, that's the damage (to our wallets).

willyd
02-21-2003, 08:58 PM
No WAY is colossus that tall or that strong...If Hulk is the far end of the power scale, than Thor would be right after him...colossus is around the Thing's strength level, no?

Tenzel Kim
02-21-2003, 09:40 PM
I'd really have loved to see some of those 3 or 4 characters per page pages to see if this would be worth getting as I was really disappointed with the Marvel Encyclopedia. Well, the entries were kinda ok but I felt that using three pages (one of which was nothing but a pin-up) for some characters was overkill and I'd rather they had used that third page for another profile instead. I don't buy those kinds of books for the art but for the info. Sure, nice art is a big plus but I'd rather have more profiles than pin-ups.

Tenz.

Zeus
02-21-2003, 09:41 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by gOgIver:
<strong>A Question for you X-Perts. What is the full address of the X-Mansion? I know it's on Greymalkin Lane in West Chester, Salem County , New York but what's the street address? :confused: </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Its 1407 Greymalkin Lane. oh GOD its so sad i know that.

Longnu
02-21-2003, 10:56 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by willyd:
<strong>No WAY is colossus that tall or that strong...If Hulk is the far end of the power scale, than Thor would be right after him...colossus is around the Thing's strength level, no?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Collossus is listed as a 6 in strength. 6 sounds about right. 6 is the same strength as Iron Man and Namor. Collossus usually seems to be about the rough equal in strength to those two.

QCCBob
02-21-2003, 11:35 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MattBrady:
<strong>“With so many entries, and given a tight deadline necessitated by our desire to get the book into stores in time for X2, we needed to put a system in place that would allow our writer -- the brilliant Syd Barney-Hawke -- to do just that: write. We didn't want her to spend all her time rooting through back-issues and trade paperbacks for example, trying to pin down the first appearance of Ahab - Fantastic Four Annual #23, by the way. Eric's extensive knowledge of the X-Men universe proved to be an essential resource in that regard.”</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">WOW! They get a writer who knows next to nothing about the subject and find someone who does know to help out! If only they did that on the regular comic books...

Eric J. Moreels
02-21-2003, 11:52 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by QCCBob:
<strong>[quote]WOW! They get a writer who knows next to nothing about the subject and find someone who does know to help out! If only they did that on the regular comic books...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, Syd knows her stuff too, but as Jeff said they just wanted her to write the entries, not get bogged down with minutiae like first appearances and such. That was my job :)

dogisred
02-22-2003, 12:01 AM
I love this idea...and the pages look pretty good, the writer isn't cumbersome at all.

I'd like to see the next book be either the Fantastic Four or the Avengers. Popularity be damned, I want a tribute to Marvel's heritage.

Eric J. Moreels
02-22-2003, 12:42 AM
For those interested, X-Fan just posted a sneak peek at the dustjacket art (not Dell'Otto's cover, but the one Tom Marvelli put together) and four more interior pages (featuring the Shi'ar Imperial Guard!):

<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15957" target="_blank">http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15957</a>

Enjoy! :)

gOgIver
02-22-2003, 01:51 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Zeus:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by gOgIver:
<strong>A Question for you X-Perts. What is the full address of the X-Mansion? I know it's on Greymalkin Lane in West Chester, Salem County , New York but what's the street address? :confused: </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Its 1407 Greymalkin Lane. oh GOD its so sad i know that.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">:) Thanks Zues! Do you think anyone lives over at 1602 Greymalkin Lane? :D

gOgIver
02-22-2003, 02:00 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Longnu:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by willyd:
<strong>No WAY is colossus that tall or that strong...If Hulk is the far end of the power scale, than Thor would be right after him...colossus is around the Thing's strength level, no?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Collossus is listed as a 6 in strength. 6 sounds about right. 6 is the same strength as Iron Man and Namor. Collossus usually seems to be about the rough equal in strength to those two.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ultimate Collossus is even stronger. Check out Ultimate War #4 for an example! :cool:

Cpt.Americafan
02-22-2003, 05:17 PM
I loved the old handbooks so much when I was a kid.I used to run to the U-totem and scan the magazine rack everyday(I was young and didn't know about shipping dates then :confused: ).I recently picked up the complete run of the first set for 20 bucks,actually a few months ago but whos counting?I also like the idea of an Avengers
edition just for the Cap entry.

ManifestFury
02-22-2003, 09:01 PM
I have to agree with the Avengers fans out there... they need their own encyclopedia!

With Busiek's and Johns' stories being so steeped in tradition and continuity, it only makes sense that fans can really appreciate what's being done. These books have proven that in-continuity stories can be absolutely amazing!

Dear GOD! Imagine the Henry Pym bio... we're talking like 5 pages here folks!

Here's hoping!

Rob Jensen
02-23-2003, 03:06 AM
I'm much pleased to see sample pages along with the article as I avoided the first Encyclopedia, figuring that it was going to be as vague and useless as the loose-leaf Marvel Universe "Master Edition" piece of junk. Since it's more in the vein of the original OHOTMU, I think I might just pick the Encyclopedia up. One suggestion to whoever's reading this at Marvel: call the X-Men book, "Marvel Encyclopedia: X-Men Vol. 1" rather than "Marvel Encyclopedia Vol. 2: X-Men" as you know that you're going to do more than one volume of X-Men eventually. Might even allow you to do more full-page and multi-page entries.

-- Rob Jensen

DrDoom
02-23-2003, 10:25 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Rob Jensen:
<strong>I'm much pleased to see sample pages along with the article as I avoided the first Encyclopedia, figuring that it was going to be as vague and useless as the loose-leaf Marvel Universe "Master Edition" piece of junk. Since it's more in the vein of the original OHOTMU, I think I might just pick the Encyclopedia up. One suggestion to whoever's reading this at Marvel: call the X-Men book, "Marvel Encyclopedia: X-Men Vol. 1" rather than "Marvel Encyclopedia Vol. 2: X-Men" as you know that you're going to do more than one volume of X-Men eventually. Might even allow you to do more full-page and multi-page entries.

-- Rob Jensen</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">On the first one it was indicated Vol I so obvious this is vol II
If you have it on the side where it says in big red letters Marvel it says also Vol I

mayhem
02-23-2003, 07:28 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by J.C. Bakken:

But then again, Jessica Drew did a stint in Wolverine, and a couple of guest-spots in UWM and No. 2 "did time" with Freedom Force. And hey, there we have USAgent as well.

:What exactly is UWM? I just can't figure it out. Can someone please enlighten me.

dollman
02-24-2003, 12:53 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Paul Hamilton:
<strong>I don't get this. What is the point of making an encuclopedia using information that, for the most part, is going to be ignored?
We all know continuity isn't really followed anymore, and quite a few of the characters in this will have been pointlessly killed off recently.
Aside from all that, surely most people who are into the X-Men enough to buy this, already know most of the information in the book? If it was even going to be a useful reference tool for fans, the characters getting half a page are the ones they are going to look up, not the ones that are given 2 pages.
It'll be good for kids that have just dicsovered the X-Men with the movie, and maybe a few comic fans who never really bothered with the title but recently got into it, but again how much of this history is ever going to get referred to again?
If you want background, you'd be better picking up the Essential books. At least you get a story with those.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well I think we all know it's another way for Marvel to get us to part with our $$$. I'm with you, I rather go back to my old Marvel Universe Handbooks.

J.C. Bakken
02-24-2003, 01:57 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mayhem:
<strong>[QUOTE]Originally posted by J.C. Bakken:

But then again, Jessica Drew did a stint in Wolverine, and a couple of guest-spots in UWM and No. 2 "did time" with Freedom Force. And hey, there we have USAgent as well.

:What exactly is UWM? I just can't figure it out. Can someone please enlighten me.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey, we all know that "X" is not that far away from the "W" on the keyboard <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> :D <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> :D
But, seriously, that should be UXM, my bad.

Eric J. Moreels
02-24-2003, 07:09 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by dollman:
<strong>Well I think we all know it's another way for Marvel to get us to part with our $$$. I'm with you, I rather go back to my old Marvel Universe Handbooks.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you prefer old and out-of-date entries over new and up-to-date ones, then knock yourself out.

Whilst they may be light on the details compared to the old OHOTMUs, at least the entries in these Encyclopedias are current. There's a lot of characters featured who don't even appear in the old Handbooks.

And remember too, unlike the OHOTMUs these Encyclopedias have to appeal to new readers as well as long-time fans, and I think Marvel have done a great job finding the right balance between the two.

DrDoom
02-25-2003, 09:57 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Eric J. Moreels:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by dollman:
<strong>Well I think we all know it's another way for Marvel to get us to part with our $$$. I'm with you, I rather go back to my old Marvel Universe Handbooks.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you prefer old and out-of-date entries over new and up-to-date ones, then knock yourself out.

Whilst they may be light on the details compared to the old OHOTMUs, at least the entries in these Encyclopedias are current. There's a lot of characters featured who don't even appear in the old Handbooks.

And remember too, unlike the OHOTMUs these Encyclopedias have to appeal to new readers as well as long-time fans, and I think Marvel have done a great job finding the right balance between the two.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Are there also entries about the books they came in ? (Because in the first encyclopedia there was a list with each character that revealed the TPB(tradepaperbacks) where they were in)
This is a handy tool to find the comics back...

morbidmarwik
02-26-2003, 11:14 AM
OH MY LORD! i can't believe how many positive responses there are here. think about how bad this is. this is marvel making a lot of money off something that is for the most part a complete waste of time. they could put this info on a website or something if you really need to know the ins and outs of every x character, but seriously, i would rather they started to reproint every x comic ever and package those in a nice glossy encyclopedia with a huge price tag. encyclopedias are for the history and facts of earth. this is too much man. what are we friggin trekkies or something????

DrDoom
02-26-2003, 11:30 AM
what do you think about Marvelites? :)

Do you know the Marvel Roleplaygame from 1989?
In that series there was a 8 part compagnion called the encyclopedia:I would say i liked the TSR manual the best because all powers were explained and had theirs ratings and powerscores for the RPG (MSHRP); I still have them until the last one of them (nr 8)

I also got the Marvel version but i couldn't understand their powerrating ("above human") and i liked the TSR better (better ratings better powers)
After TSR's MSHRP (Marvel Superheroes Roleplaygame) was canceled , i saw differend sites on the internet still maintaining the scores and the powers of the Roleplaygame and not of the old one (1983 on ) and also some new heroes

please visit <a href="http://www.telebyte.nl/~vlemming/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.telebyte.nl/~vlemming/index.html</a> if you want to know where i am talking about

When Marvel published theirs i directly ordered it without knowing what it was. I never saw the webpages; So for me the info was new and also because i stopped reading comics since 6 years; When my cardgamesshop wanted to sell comics i agreed to restart again but i hadn't got a clue what to buy: when i read this encyclopedia (marvel Encyclopedia V I), i understood the pages also offered info on comics to buy which one you would have missed; For Marvel i believe this one is a Merchandize tool because people will buy comics revealed in this one and not in the other encyclopedia (TSR didn't had any list of comics only pure the facts and the old one had only the appearances)

so now you know how i got mine...

PS: i was a bit angry for how it was written but i still look it in so for me it is not totally a loss