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MattBrady
12-02-2002, 12:15 PM
<a href="http://classic.newsarama.com/Wildstorm/pic_lrgrobot0cvr.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/Wildstorm/pic_lrgrobot0cvr_t.jpg" width="175" height="266" alt="Robotech #0 cover" align="right" border="0"></a>It’s not as well known as the Transformers, GI Joe, He-Man, or the Micronauts, but it has it’s fans. This Wednesday, Wildstorm returns the Robotech franchise to comics with #0, followed by #1 of a six-issue miniseries later in the month, along with trades and one-shots to follow. Newsarama chatted with Harmony Gold’s Tommy Yune and Robotech writer Jay Faerber[/b] about the hubbub.

While the series (plotted by Yune, scripted by Faerber, with art by Long Vo and UDON, and edited by Ben Abernathy) jumps back into the franchise with both feet, a little primer may be in order first, for those whose only experience with Robotech may have been snippets of the animated series some 15 years ago.

Firstly, the “world” of Robotech “began” when a gigantic alien spacecraft crash-landed on Macross Island in the South Pacific. Although it was in the midst of a global war, the nations of the world realigned themselves and the world’s overall geopolitical climate, and scientists from all nations flocked to Macross to study the ship. Ultimately, a city was built around the ship, which served as home to the scientists, support staffs, and of course, the military element that had been involved with the ship and alien technology since day one, when it was discovered that the ship was of a military nature.

As the animated series timeline showed, the Macross Saga, that is, the first animated Robotech series, picked up ten years after the crash, when preparations are underway to return the ship to space. During the intervening ten years, the alien technology has been reverse engineered so that earth’s forces are equipped with advanced weapons fueled by “Protoculture,” which was found on the ship (now christened the SDF-1). The overall name for new technology utilizing Protoculture: “Robotech.”

Of course, just as the ship is readying for takeoff, the aliens (who were pursuing the ship ten years previous) arrive. Assuming the ship is still active, and the earth is its ally, the aliens (named Zentraedi) attack.

Following the Macross Saga, the animated Robotech canon continued in Robotech Masters and then Robotech: The New Generation.

But that’s another story.

By and large, the “Macross” component of Robotech is the most popular with fans, as it told the story of earth’s valiant fight against an enemy it didn’t even know it had. The animated series, while treated as “just another cartoon show” by network syndicates in the United States, was filled with surprisingly mature storylines involving love, loss, betrayal, and fairly complex politics. At the time of its original airing in the majority of the US (the late ‘80s), it made the storylines of many other animated series pale in comparison, and look, frankly, childish.

<img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/Wildstorm/pic_lrgrobot1cvr.jpg" width="175" height="266" alt="Robotech #1 cover" align="left" border="0">While Robotech became a cult hit, it didn’t have backing from a major toymaker, and was still too small for a large comic publisher to adapt into comics. Enter Comico. The small publisher began with Robotech: The Macross Saga in 1985, and continued publishing Robotech comics until 1989, adding Masters and New Generation along the way. Comico’s adaptations of the animated series were overseen and often written by Carl Macek, who produced the English version of the animated series. Macek’s involvement gave the Comico series a ring of authenticity. DC’s Robotech: The Macross Saga trade, coming in January, reprints the first six issues of the Comico series.

Eternity was next in line to try its hand at the Robotech license, and Robotech comics, most based upon the Macross storyline, continued to be published by a variety of small publishers throughout the ‘90s. Tangential storylines were embarked upon, stories designed to fill in missing chunks of time were told, and while some resonated with the fans of the franchise, none were seen as canonical.

Part of the reason there were so many versions of Robotech comics over the years was due to Harmony Gold, which owns the license for Robotech, having a decentralized control of products. Recently, Tommy Yune, Tom Bateman and Steve Yun have endeavored to pull the various pieces of Robotech back together to allow them to move forward as a cohesive unit, rather than a collection of divergent parts. One of the first results of the revamped view of Robotech was <a href="http://www.robotech.com" target="_blank">www.robotech.com,</a> a comprehensive website produced by Harmony Gold, which features the official Robotech timeline, as well as images, and an Infopedia. Basically, if it’s not on the website, or in the timeline, it didn’t happen as far as Harmony Gold is concerned.

Harmony Gold’s new approach to coordinating the Robotech license is aimed at making sure Robotech releases have strict quality control, and meet specific criteria, which, in the end, result in better products, in HG’s eyes.

Putting the upcoming comic projects into the above mix, it was Yune who was instrumental in getting Robotech back to comics, as well as at Wildstorm, in particular. Having made a name for himself with such projects as Speed Racer and Danger Girl: Kamikaze, Yune left Wildstorm to work as the creative director on Robotech for Harmony Gold in the late ‘90s.

Primarily, Yune’s job is to work on the new Robotech animated series in development, but there’s always more. “I’m also closely involved in all our story-driven Robotech products,” Yune said. “I still really enjoy drawing and every once in a while I get the time to squeeze out some nice illustrations.”

The World

In starting up the Robotech comic franchise at Wildstorm, Yune was instrumental in the setting. The miniseries launching this week is set in the months and years after the ship crash landed on Macross Island – a time period which has already been visited once or twice.

<a href="http://classic.newsarama.com/Wildstorm/RTHCVR3.jpg"><img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/Wildstorm/RTHCVR3_t.jpg" width="175" height="266" alt="Robotech #3 cover" align="right" border="0"></a>”Since we're relaunching Robotech in comics through DC Comics and Wildstorm, it made sense to start over from origin of the Macross Saga,” Yune said. “The storyline follows elaborates on events from the 1999-2009 timeline that is briefly covered in the opening narrative and sporadic flashbacks in the original television series. Though some elements of this story had been depicted before in [Comico’s] Robotech: The Graphic Novel and [Eternity’s] Robotech: Return to Macross, we're excited that this is turning out to be the best Robotech comic series ever produced and will introduce Robotech to a new generation of fans.”

Yune’s writing partner on the miniseries, Jay Faerber, agreed. “The Macross Saga is probably the most popular Robotech era, so it makes sense to focus our initial mini-series on those characters,” Faerber said. “Robotech fans will remember that the first episode of the Macross Saga features a sort of opening narration, which chronicles the arrival of the SDF-1 and all the back-story. With this mini-series, we’re able to extrapolate on that back-story, and examine it in greater detail.”

To nail down specifics, the miniseries follows the events just following the opening minutes of the first animated episode. “Talk about time compression -- when the subtitled date advances from 1999 to 2009, this has got to be one of the fastest passages of time in the entire series,” Yune said. “After a brief ‘introductory epilogue’ in issue #0 [Captain Rick Hunter finds Roy Fokker’s Veritech fighter as its about to be junked for scrap], the story segues back to 1999 to show the effects of the arrival of the SDF-1 upon many of our favorite Robotech characters, namely Roy Fokker. Some of the subsequent events will intersect with flashbacks seen in the ‘A Rainy Night’ television episode as well.”

According to Faerber, during the miniseries, which spans from the crash up to just prior to the launch ceremonies in first episode, he and Yune will be able to explore the earth a little more than was ever allowed in the anaimted series. While only alluded to in the animated series, the earth that the ship crash lands on is one that is at full-on war, something which changes immediately.

“While the crash-landing of the SDF-1 is certainly a terrifying event, it also acts as a sort of lynch pin that holds everything together,” Faerber said. “A new world government is hastily assembled, as the various world leaders realize that they need to put their heads together in order to deal with this global event – especially if the SDF-1’s alien owners ever come looking for it.

“We don’t delve as much into the sociological and cultural implications, however, since the majority of our story is set on various military bases, which are purposely isolated from the rest of the world as scientists try and unlock the SDF-1’s secrets, and test pilots try to master the new Veritech fighters.”

According to Yune, the political climate of the world in which the SDF-1 crashes is very much like it is today. “We now have the advantage of 20/20 hindsight since we can now depict reflect back on the events following 1999 rather then guessing during the 1980's,” Yune said. “The cold war is over, but now the enemy is a decentralized and elusive terrorist coalition that could threaten the world unity that is desperately needed to build up the Earth's defenses against incoming aliens.

<a href="http://classic.newsarama.com/Wildstorm/RYHCVR4.jpg"><img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/Wildstorm/RYHCVR4_t.jpg" width="175" height="266" alt="Robotech #4 cover" align="left" border="0"></a>So really, the threat of the miniseries is human society itself. How does a world deal with an alien encounter in which no living aliens are initially present? The United Earth Forces at Macross Island have to deal with a world that has not yet seen the alien threat and remains terrified of the mysterious technology buried deep within the SDF-1. Not knowing that the Zentraedi are on the
way, some would feel that the SDF-1 itself is the greatest threat that needs to be destroyed.”

As such, political battles are the norm for the duration of the miniseries. “The ratification of the United Earth Government takes over five years, and not without a struggle,” Yune said. “In the meantime, the United Earth Forces struggle to maintain a perimeter around Macross Island and keep the details of Robotech development under tight guard.”

The Players

While his character arc in the animated series is slightly short-lived and tragic, pilot Roy Fokker plays a key role in the miniseries. “Roy’s an amazingly talented pilot – one of those natural fliers who relies much more on instinct than on his instrument panel,” Faerber said. “And yeah, he’s a show-off. He got his start flying at Rick Hunter’s dad’s circus, so there’s a big part of him that likes performing. He doesn’t enjoy killing, but there comes a time when he realizes that his country needs his skills, so he enlists in the service – and promises young Rick that he’ll come back and fly in the circus one day.”

Yune continued the character sketch of Fokker: “The Global War hardens the normally carefree Roy Fokker into a brooding pilot. His prodigious skills have allowed him to miraculously survive the most intense combat, only to repeatedly experience the tragic loss of comrades around him. This is a black cloud hangs over him, even though it's not necessarily his fault.”

In the miniseries’ first issue, Fokker is assigned to hunt and kill the military commander of the “other side” of the global war – Captain Gloval, who is on his submarine somewhere in the Pacific. Fans of the animated series will recognize the name – Gloval will one day be the commander of the SDF-1 as it takes to space. As Yune pointed out, Gloval is Russian – a nod of sorts to how the original writers of the animated series would’ve seen the sides of a global war from the early ‘80s – the US versus the USSR.

<img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/Wildstorm/Rick.jpg" width="300" height="213" alt="Rick reads a letter from Roy, detail from #1, page 1" align="right" border="0">Yune said that the global war was tweaked a little, but the sides remained relatively the same. “The Global War initially involves the known superpowers such as the United States and Russia,” Yune explained. “However, the Anti-Unification League, a terrorist organization that had a minor role in the Robotech television series, will have a greatly expanded role afterwards in this comic miniseries.”

Back to Yune’s description of Fokker, Faerber gave a few more details about the character, as well as what holes the miniseries will fill in for those familiar with him through the animated series. “Roy’s such a talented pilot that he does outlive his wingmen,” Faerber expalined. “It’s not that he’s reckless, per se. It’s just that they can’t keep up with him, and this eats away at him. Because of this, he doesn’t enjoy any camaraderie with his fellow pilots. They view him sort of as an outsider, because he’s got this black cloud hanging over him. Nevertheless, he’s got quite the reputation with the ladies. One of the subplots of this mini-series is that we get to see the early days of Roy’s romance with Claudia Grant. We’ve seen bits and pieces of their courtship in the actual Macross cartoons, through flashbacks. So Tommy and I’ve worked hard to weave those flashbacks into this series, along with new material.”

That said, Fokker has yet to reach the “big brother” maturity level that he has with Rick Hunter in the animated series.

<a href=http://classic.newsarama.com/Wildstorm/pic_lrgrobotech1sht2.jpg target="_blank"><img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/Wildstorm/pic_lrgrobotech1sht2_t.jpg" width="175" height="266" alt="Roy prepares to land and hunt for Gloval; issue #1, page 2" align="left" border="0"></a>Speaking of Rick, given that he’s only 19 when he shows up in the first episode of the animated series, he’s a precocious nine year old when the miniseries begins who views Roy in larger tha life terms. “Rick’s relationship with Roy is seen mainly through the letters that Roy writes while he’s in the service,” Faerber said. “Each issue is framed by a letter Rick receives from Roy. Obviously, the fact that Rick calls Roy ‘Big Brother’ is an indication of the closeness of their relationship. And I think Roy is probably largely responsible for Rick’s love of flying. Sure, Rick’s dad is a pilot, so there’s double the influence. But I bet Rick idolizes Roy more than Pop Hunter.”

To go all geek, Yune said that the relationship between Rick and Roy isn’t like Luke Skywalker and Biggs Darklighter, but rather, opted to compare it to a latter day Star Wars reference. “It's more like young Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon,” Yune said. “They're both gifted, but the younger has a differing philosophy - that is until he's forced to mature into the elder's role.”

Other characters that play roles in the animated series will show up in the mini in one way or another, from Admiral Hayes (father of Lisa Hayes), who is the power broker of the military development of Robotechnology, to the above mentioned Claudia Grant, and others, such as T.R. Edwards, who will have cameo roles.


The Personal Stuff

As creators in their late ‘20s and early ‘30s, the chance to tell an original Robotech story is something beyond cool – a chance to add their mark to something that they have enjoyed for years. Both Faerber and Yune took the opportunity to reflect back to their early encounters with the property.

“I forget the first moment I saw Robotech,” Faerber said. “I just remember that I really dug it in junior high school. I’ve always enjoyed finding stuff that not everyone else was into, so while all the other kids - those who hadn’t outgrown cartoons by that point, at least - were watching He-Man, I was more into Robotech. I just loved the complexity of the series, and the way in which it comprised one big story, where characters died, and there was no status quo. I liked knowing that the next episode would pick up where the previous one left off, as opposed to other cartoons, which you could watch in any order and it wouldn’t make a difference. Come to think of it, Robotech could very well have been the first ‘soap opera’ I ever watched.”

<a href="http://classic.newsarama.com/Wildstorm/pic_lrgrobotech1sht3_t.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://classic.newsarama.com/Wildstorm/pic_lrgrobotech1sht3_t.jpg" width="175" height="266" alt="Issue #1, page 3" align="right" border="0"></a>Yune's introduction was slightly different – he began watching Robotech with the last series, New Generation, but still, it has a lasting effect. “I was really hooked by its serial storyline and really enjoyed the similarities of the Macross Saga to Spaceship Yamato, which was one of my favorite anime before Robotech.”

Both Yune and Faerber are drawing on their initial impressions of the animated series in creating the miniseries. “This comic experience is meant to feel like an extension of the television series,” Yune said. “It will have elements of action, romance, humor, and wonder rolled into a slick and intelligent science fiction storyline. Because this miniseries is essentially an origin story, it's the perfect introduction to Robotech, whether or not fans have seen the television series, so we’re making sure to make it very new-reader friendly.”

And for those who still are scratching their heads as to what it’s all about, Faerber gave the bigger, “big” picture of Robotech. “At the risk of sounding pompous, it’s a story of love and war. Yes, there are aliens and big robots, but at the heart of the story are well-drawn - both figuratively and literally - characters that face numerous professional and personal hardships, and are permanently affected by the events around them. It’s essentially a novel, with a beginning, middle, and end, with each episode being a single chapter.”

The Future

With the upcoming miniseries in the can, both Yune and Faerber are thinking of the next Robotech outing. “At this past year’s San Diego Comic Con, Tommy, [editor] Ben Abernathy, and I sat around for a bit and talked about story possibilities for the next mini-series, but so far, we haven’t made any decisions. So it could literally be anything – it could be another Macross-themed mini, or maybe Masters or New Generation. Anything goes!”

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seemak
12-02-2002, 12:51 PM
first post!

i dont know about this one. I think wildstorm is scrapping the bottom of the 80's barrel here. i sure wish they would focus more on their own projects/characters and less on licenses. it's like Dark Horse Jr. for christ's sakes.

that having been said, i am sucker so i'll still flip through this on the racks.

AForceOfOne
12-02-2002, 12:55 PM
even if it was scarping these guys doing the book are some of the best in the industry. Long Vo is a highly underated artist. This comes from a guy who is more influenced by the Amercian Style of drawing. There's not many artists that come close to the expressions and believability of Vo's art...and you know...the rest of the team too. All great artists.

Vodak
12-02-2002, 01:34 PM
[quote]Originally posted by seemak:
<strong>first post!

i dont know about this one. I think wildstorm is scrapping the bottom of the 80's barrel here. i sure wish they would focus more on their own projects/characters and less on licenses. it's like Dark Horse Jr. for christ's sakes.

that having been said, i am sucker so i'll still flip through this on the racks.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Robotech ownz. Robotechis one of them thinks geeks just dont forget. Accounce this on Slashdot and watch the people go wild over it. =]

American Caesar
12-02-2002, 01:44 PM
I mean, how damn good is Robotech, right? It's one of the best animated shows of all time, and one of the tightest. It got me hooked to serial continuity, and eventually, comics. I hope they can pull this off.

I don't think this is scraping the bottom of any barrel... Robotech is head-and-shoulders above most other animated properties in terms of subtlety and complexity. Don't confuse it with "Thundercats."

Chris Partin
12-02-2002, 02:09 PM
[quote]Originally posted by American Caesar:
<strong>I don't think this is scraping the bottom of any barrel... Robotech is head-and-shoulders above most other animated properties in terms of subtlety and complexity. Don't confuse it with "Thundercats."</strong><hr></blockquote>

I've got to agree here. Robotech is so much more than any other '80s' product being produced these days. There was so much more depth to the stories, the characters, and the quality of work put into each episode. Even now, my three year old son ejoys watching the VHS tapes I was lucky enough to buy years ago of the series and enjoys them for the action and the effects of the show, while I enjoy it for the characters and the politics of the stories.

Robotech is something so many different age groups can enjoy.

csGuy
12-02-2002, 02:40 PM
[quote] i dont know about this one. I think wildstorm is scrapping the bottom of the 80's barrel here. i sure wish they would focus more on their own projects/characters and less on licenses. it's like Dark Horse Jr. for christ's sakes. <hr></blockquote>

The bottom of the 80s barrel will be something like "my little pony", Robotech is hardly near there. and as for wildstorm's "focus" on licenses, I count 2 so far: Robotech and Thundercats. Thats not bad for an imprint that has a more diverse line of books than all of Marvel.

[quote] Robotech ownz. Robotechis one of them thinks geeks just dont forget. Accounce this on Slashdot and watch the people go wild over it. =]
<hr></blockquote>

You SHOULD get this announced on slashdot if it'd really have the effect you think it would.

Though you'll have to have less typos :D

Aaron
12-02-2002, 02:51 PM
Keep in mind, too, that unlike most of the 80's relaunches we've seen, Robotech never actually fell out of fashion. While it's not as popular as it was during the time the TV series was on the air, the Robotech brand has lived on in various books, RPGs, models, comics and anime for the last 20 years.

Aaron

LFKittsteiner
12-02-2002, 03:07 PM
My only real problem with the TV series is, because of the fact that it was in reality 3 different series, it never got around to explain exactly what was protoculture, or where were Dana´s parents during the Masters saga, or what was exactly Zor´s role in all of this. As a child, this really bothered me, but when I grew up, I came to understand why, and enjoyed the series without complaining. The animation is a little dated, but the battles still make watch in awe.

Good luck and good sales, Mr. Yune and Mr. Faerber.

LFKO.

Brian Langlois
12-02-2002, 03:21 PM
[quote]Originally posted by LFKittsteiner:
<strong>My only real problem with the TV series is, because of the fact that it was in reality 3 different series, it never got around to explain exactly what was protoculture, or where were Dana´s parents during the Masters saga, or what was exactly Zor´s role in all of this. As a child, this really bothered me, but when I grew up, I came to understand why, and enjoyed the series without complaining. The animation is a little dated, but the battles still make watch in awe.

Good luck and good sales, Mr. Yune and Mr. Faerber.

LFKO.</strong><hr></blockquote>

If you see the complete series (including The Sentinels), it makes more sense. Sentinels was going to be a series, but the license fell through and it only got to be a crappy movie. But, it does explain where Dana's parents went (With the REF and Admiral Hunter into deep space), and it also introduces the characters of Dana, Bowie, and Scott Bernard as children (Scott may have been cut from the final). Zor (the original) was the originaotr of robotechnology and the secret of protoculture was lsot with him. We never really find out what it was. The REF was looking for the Masters (who were fighting the Invid) on their expedition. Since this was American made it was going to really tie everything together and it's too bad it never got the chance. It was a pretty bad movie, but worth seeing if you want the whole story. It's on one of the extra DVD's of the Macross Saga boxed sets if you're interested.
Hope that helps.

LFKittsteiner
12-02-2002, 03:26 PM
Thanks, Brian.

Here in Chile, the series was aired in a channel property of the Catholic Church. The first airing was pretty much complete (the 3 series), but in the following years, the censors of the channel found out about Lancer... and since then, the series has been butchered without mercy in the editing room. This may explain why some details escape me.

Again, thanks for the info and the leads, Brian.

LFKO.

Brian Langlois
12-02-2002, 04:06 PM
[quote]Originally posted by LFKittsteiner:
<strong>Thanks, Brian.

Here in Chile, the series was aired in a channel property of the Catholic Church. The first airing was pretty much complete (the 3 series), but in the following years, the censors of the channel found out about Lancer... and since then, the series has been butchered without mercy in the editing room. This may explain why some details escape me.

Again, thanks for the info and the leads, Brian.

LFKO.</strong><hr></blockquote>

You should look into getting the DVD sets if you're really insterested in Robotech. Also, on <a href="http://www.robotech.com" target="_blank">www.robotech.com</a> there is a great timeline and other resources that can help fill in the gaps.

Studio D Comics
12-02-2002, 06:53 PM
[quote]The bottom of the 80s barrel will be something like "my little pony",<hr></blockquote>

Uh oh... now you've done it...

Announcing the RETURN of MY LITTLE PONY!!

With Covers by J. Scott Campbell, script by Warren Ellis, pencils by Neal Adams, & inks by Bill Sienkiewicz, colours by UDON! Published by Wildstorm, this new 99 issue limited series will focus on the core emotional resonance of the main characters, the, well, ponies, but with a darker tone...

Coming soon....????? :) :) :) :)

later
don

Studio D Comics
12-02-2002, 06:58 PM
Damn I almost forgot to mention Robotech!

I'm not all that keen on this 80's toons revival. I was a big fan of Transformers (collected the Marvel series, but LOVED the British Marvel ones) Battle of the Planets, and of course Robotech. But sometimes things need to be left in the past, with fond memories.

Robotech was an awesome saga, from Macross, to new Gen, to Sentinels. But it's all done to me. There was a beginning, middle, and END. maybe THAT'S why it's considered so highly for it's storytelling??

Going back & wedging in some "hidden years" style stories into the continuity... well, I can't judge them since I haven't seen them. But I'm not exactly asking for it.

Still, I did really love Robotech, and I'll take a look at the comics when they come out.


later
don

SPEEDBOY
12-02-2002, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by Matt Brady:
[quote]Primarily, Yune’s job is to work on the new Robotech animated series in development...<hr></blockquote>

Holy shit!!!!! When this come about? Scraping the bottom of the barell my ass. I enjoyed Thundercats, and Transformers growing up, even at like 10 I relizeed that Robotech was the only cartoon in which the previous episode affected the next. I've seen a couple of the DVD. amd they still hold up. The chracterization on that show was flawless, and Rick Hunter was the perfect Everyman. Dear Christ, the protagonist of children's show had girl problems!!! (Minmei--what a pr!ck-tease) It was great.

So, anyone got info on this new series????[code] </pre><hr></blockquote>

Kurt
12-02-2002, 08:40 PM
[quote] It’s not as well known as the Transformers, GI Joe, He-Man, or the Micronauts <hr></blockquote>

How is it that Robotech is not as well known as Micronauts? I have never really been a fan of Robotech but I've known about Robotech through cartoons and RPGs and I know a few people who are the same way.
The only way I found out what Micronauts were was by getting a few random Micronaut comics in bags of assorted comics. I know of no one else who would be able to tell me what a Micronaut was to this day.
I'm not saying that I don't understand why Micronauts was revived in this nostalga wave of books that are coming out; I just wonder how someone could say Robotech is not as well known.

MattBrady
12-02-2002, 08:47 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Kurt:
<strong>How is it that Robotech is not as well known as Micronauts? I have never really been a fan of Robotech but I've known about Robotech through cartoons and RPGs and I know a few people who are the same way.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Simple - Robotech never had strong toy line in the US, backed by one of the majors. In many cases, kids could find Micronauts toys at toy stores, but perhaps could not find Robotech on television. Even in places where Robotech was shown, the absence of a toy line had a dampening effect. After watching Robotech, kids could maybe go play with their Transformers and Micronauts and pretend they were Robotech, but after a while, the pretend would fade, and they'd be playing with Transformers and Micronauts again.

And yeah - I know Robotech did have sporadic toys, but they were niche market, not aimed at the general consumer level, but more at the specialized collector/fan.

MattB

Franklin Harris
12-02-2002, 09:36 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Matt Brady:
<strong>
And yeah - I know Robotech did have sporadic toys, but they were niche market, not aimed at the general consumer level, but more at the specialized collector/fan.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

The Matchbox Robotech toy line was aimed almost exclusively at general consumers. Those toys were readily available at KB Toys, Toys R Us, and other major toy retailers, but they sold poorly because they were poorly constructed copies of the original Japanese toys.

As far as whether Robotech is better known than Micronauts, this is no contest, and Robotech wins. The Micronauts toy line fizzed in popularity well before Marvel's comic came to an end. Also, Robotech had a reasonably successful comic adaptation from Comico (and less successful adaptations from two or three other publishers) in addition to the cartoon series. While the cartoon ran for only one year in syndication, it has been released on video three times (Family Home Entertainment, Streamline and ADV) and aired on Cartoon Network and Sci-Fi Channel.

Nitpicking aside, it's too bad Wildstorm and Image don't have Tokyopop and Viz's ability to get TPBs into outlets like Suncoast and Sam Goody. That may be were the biggest market for Robotech and Battle of the Planets comics is.

12-03-2002, 12:44 AM
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Peter Svensson
12-03-2002, 01:21 AM
At San Diego a few years back, Carl Macek announced work on a new Robotech series. It's been progessing on and off, and the details keep changing, but it is in the works.

Rich Johnston
12-03-2002, 10:33 AM
Are there any plans to pay the creators of the old Robotech work being reprinted by Wildstorm?

BoyWonder
12-03-2002, 01:27 PM
Are there any other 80's revivals left? I personally think that the best franchise of them all is being wasted, namely Star Wars! A few cool creators on a SW comic would shift very many units. There was a rumour that Kevin Smith was going to do a SW comic, before he went exclusive to Marvel. SW is wasted at Dark Horse.

Kevin Smith and Joe Quesada on a Clone War comic...if only!

Aaron
12-03-2002, 03:29 PM
[quote]Originally posted by BoyWonder:
[QB]Are there any other 80's revivals left? I personally think that the best franchise of them all is being wasted, namely Star Wars! A few cool creators on a SW comic would shift very many units. There was a rumour that Kevin Smith was going to do a SW comic, before he went exclusive to Marvel. SW is wasted at Dark Horse.

[QB]<hr></blockquote>

Well, I don't read SW books, so I can't say whether or not they're wasted at Dark Horse, but the sheer volume of Star Trek related material currently available from Dark Horse and others seems to indicate anything BUT a need for a Star Wars revival.

Aaron

Kintoun
12-03-2002, 08:09 PM
[quote]Originally posted by BoyWonder:
<strong>Are there any other 80's revivals left?

Of course. It's been years since we've seen comics based on Sectaurs, Starriors, C.O.P.S., M.A.S.K., Inhumanoids, Visionaries, Centurions, Silverhawks, and Power Lords. That's not even counting classic properties like Bionic Six, Go-Bots, Captain Power, Super Naturals, and Blackstar which never had comic books at all.

> I personally think that the best franchise of them all is being wasted, namely Star Wars! A few cool creators on a SW comic would shift very many units. There was a rumour that Kevin Smith was going to do a SW comic, before he went exclusive to Marvel. SW is wasted at Dark Horse.

Kevin Smith and Joe Quesada on a Clone War comic...if only!</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'd agree with this claim about four months ago but not anymore. The plots for current Star Wars comics are quite relevant. For instance, December's Republic #49 will jump into the Clone Wars time period between Episode II and Episode III. It looks like hundreds of clone troopers will regularly appear in this series from now on.

There's also going to be a double-sized Jedi Special in February dealing with Mace Windu's role as top general in the galaxy-wide Clone Wars.

Kintoun

Kintoun
12-03-2002, 08:17 PM
I just checked and Captain Power comics do exist after all. Continuity Publishing released 2 Captain Power issues. There's still a few other forgotten 80s properties that I didn't list though. Air Raiders & Robotix spring to mind.

Kintoun

Stormfront
12-04-2002, 11:22 AM
Caeser is correct. The barrel's still at least half full. In addition to Kintoun's mentions I can name: She-Ra, The Real Ghostbusters (good in the beginning), Jem, Galaxy Rangers, Jace and the Wheeled Warriors, Laser Tag, Rainbow Brite, Tigersharks, The guy who was struck by lightning while in his sportscar and gained the ability to change into it. Plenty of stuff left to plunder. I really liked Bionic Six. I'd love to read comics based on 'em (HINT, HINT to comic companies). And on the non-comic front I'm anticipating TRON 2.0

[quote]Long Vo is a highly underated artist.<hr></blockquote>
Agreed. I love Long Vo's art as well. I long to see Last Shot return.

[quote] script by Warren Ellis <hr></blockquote>
That makes it sound interesting.

12-04-2002, 05:20 PM
[quote]Originally posted by RainyDay:
<strong>She-Ra.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hopefully Image will do a She-Ra spin off.

[quote]Originally posted by RainyDay:
<strong>Galaxy Rangers.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'd get this one

[quote]Originally posted by RainyDay:
<strong>Jace and the Wheeled Warriors.</strong><hr></blockquote>

This one was great.

[quote]Originally posted by RainyDay:
<strong>Tigersharks.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'd like to see this, ThunderCats and Silverhawks all in one continuity.

[quote]Originally posted by RainyDay:
<strong>The guy who was struck by lightning while in his sportscar and gained the ability to change into it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Turbo Teen :)

It was a nice toon.

All good choices, but a line has to be drawn before they do a comic based on the Mr. T toon.lol

[quote]Originally posted by RainyDay:
<strong>Bionic Six.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Did Liefeld ever publish his Bionix series? That sounded really good.

Quasar
12-04-2002, 05:48 PM
So, where's the Mask comic series? or one based on the D&D 'toon?

StarSaber
12-05-2002, 01:42 PM
Starcom would be nice.