DC LISTS SUMMER TRADES & COLLECTIONS, INCLUDING CHARLTON ARCHIVES

[MattBrady]

<i>Press Release</i>

<blockquote>DC UNVEILS NEW COLLECTED EDITIONS FROM THE ORIGINAL UNIVERSE

This summer DC Comics releases an array of new collected editions starring the World's Greatest Super-Heroes. The titles feature Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and other super-heroes from every corner of the DCU, and are highlighted by a hardcover collection of the sold-out "Godfall" storyline from ACTION COMICS, ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN and SUPERMAN as well as the first-ever Archive based on material originally by Charlton Comics.

The new DCU titles include:

CATWOMAN: NINE LIVES OF A FELINE FATALE TP
* A 208-page trade paperback collecting stories from BATMAN
#1, 197, 210 and 392, DETECTIVE COMICS #203, SUPERMAN'S GIRL FRIEND
LOIS LANE #70-71, CATWOMAN (first series) #54, BATMAN: GOTHAM
ADVENTURES #4 and CATWOMAN SECRET FILES #1
* Written by Bill Finger, Edmond Hamilton, Leo Dorfman,
Gardner Fox, Frank Robbins, Doug Moench, Devin Grayson, Ty Templeton
and Ed Brubaker; art by Bob Kane, Lew Sayre Schwartz & Charles Paris,
Kurt Schaffenberger, Irv Novick & Joe Giella, Tom Mandrake & Jan
Duursema, Jim Balent, Rick Burchett & Terry Beatty, Michael Avon Oeming
& Mike Manley. Also included is an introduction by Michael Uslan, plus
pin-ups by George Pérez, Adam Hughes, Jim Balent & Joe Jusko and others
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in June with a cover price of
$14.95 U.S.

CATWOMAN: THE MOVIE AND OTHER CAT TALES TP
* A 128-page trade paperback collecting the CATWOMAN: THE
MOVIE comics adaptation, CATWOMAN (first series) #0 and CATWOMAN
(second series) #11 and a special sketchbook section by Jim Lee
* Written by Chuck Austen, Doug Moench, Steven Grant and Ed
Brubaker; art by Tom Derenick & Adam DeKraker, Paul Gulacy & Jimmy
Palmiotti, Jim Balent, Brad Rader, Jim Lee and others
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in July with a cover price of
$9.95 U.S.

GREEN LANTERN/GREEN ARROW Vol. 2 TP
* A 200-page trade paperback collecting GREEN LANTERN/GREEN
ARROW #83-87 and 89, plus stories from THE FLASH #217-219 and the
never-before-reprinted back-up story from THE FLASH #226
* Written by Dennis O'Neil with art by Neal Adams, Dick
Giordano and Bernie Wrightson, plus an introduction by Giordano
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in July with a cover price of
$12.95 U.S.

ALL STAR COMICS ARCHIVES Vol. 10 HC
* A 216-page hardcover collecting ALL STAR COMICS #44-48
* Written by John Broome with art by Irwin Hasen, Arthur
Peddy, Bob Oksner and Bernard Sachs and an introduction by Roy Thomas
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in July with a cover price of
$49.95 U.S.

CRISIS ON MULTIPLE EARTHS Vol. 3 TP
* A 192-page trade paperback collecting JUSTICE LEAGUE OF
AMERICA #91-92, #100-102, #107-108 and #113
* Written by Mike Friedrich and Len Wein with art by Dick
Dillin, Joe Giella, Dick Giordano, Neal Adams and Nick Cardy and an
introduction by Wein
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in July with a cover price of
$14.95 U.S.

WONDER WOMAN: DOWN TO EARTH TP
* A 160-page trade paperback collecting WONDER WOMAN #195-200
* Written by Greg Rucka with art by Drew Johnson & Ray Snyder
and Eric Shanower, plus pin-ups by Brian Stelfreeze, Steve Rude,
Stuart Immonen and Eduardo Risso and a new cover by Greg Land
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in July with a cover price of
$14.95 U.S.

THE FLASH: BLITZ TP
* A 224-page trade paperback collecting THE FLASH #192-200
* Written by Geoff Johns with art by Scott Kolins, Phil
Winslade, Doug Hazlewood, Al Gordon and Walden Wong
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in July with a cover price of
$19.95 U.S.

BATMAN: HUSH Vol. 1 TP
* A 128-page trade paperback collecting BATMAN #608-612 plus
four pages of story added for the hardcover and two pages initially
available exclusively at dccomics.com
* Written by Jeph Loeb with art by Jim Lee & Scott Williams
and an introduction by Loeb
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in July with a cover price of
$12.95 U.S.

SUPERMAN: THE GREATEST STORIES EVER TOLD TP
* A 192-page trade paperback collecting stories from SUPERMAN
#1, 65, 156, 247, and 400 (first series), Look Magazine, MAN OF STEEL
#1, SUPERMAN #18 (second series), and ACTION COMICS #775
* Written by Jerry Siegel, William Woolfolk, Edmond Hamilton,
Elliot S. Maggin, Jim Steranko, John Byrne and Joe Kelly; art by Joe
Shuster, Al Plastino, Curt Swan, George Klein, Murphy Anderson,
Steranko, Byrne, Dick Giordano, Mike Mignola, Karl Kesel, Doug Mahnke,
Lee Bermejo, Tim Bradstreet and others
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in August with a cover price
of $19.95 U.S.

GREEN ARROW: ARCHER'S QUEST TP
* A 176-page trade paperback collecting GREEN ARROW (second
series) #16-21
* Written by Brad Meltzer with art by Phil Hester and Ande
Parks and a cover by Matt Wagner, an introduction by Senator Patrick
Leahy and an afterword by Greg Rucka
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in August with a cover price
of $14.95 U.S.

SUPERMAN: GODFALL HC
* A 128-page hardcover collecting the lead stories from
ACTION COMICS #812-813, ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN #625-626 and SUPERMAN
#202-203
* Written by Michael Turner and Joe Kelly with art by Talent
Caldwell & Jason Gorder and Turner
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in August with a cover price
of $19.95 U.S.

ACTION HERO ARCHIVES Vol. 1 HC
* A 228-page hardcover collecting stories from SPACE
ADVENTURES #33-42 and CAPTAIN ATOM #78-82, from 1960 through 1966
* Written by Steve Ditko, Joe Gill and David Kaler with art
by Ditko, Rocke Mastroserio and Frank McLaughlin
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in August with a cover price
of $49.95 U.S.

BATMAN: DEATH AND THE MAIDENS TP
* A 224-page trade paperback collecting BATMAN: DEATH AND THE
MAIDENS #1-9 and a story from DETECTIVE COMICS #793
* Written by Greg Rucka with art by Klaus Janson
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in August with a cover price
of $19.95 U.S.

GREEN LANTERN: PASSING THE TORCH TP
* A 128-page trade paperback collecting GREEN LANTERN #156,
#158-161 and GREEN LANTERN SECRET FILES #2
* Written by Judd Winick with art by Dale Eaglesham & Rodney
Ramos and Ariel Olivetti
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in August with a cover price
of $12.95 U.S.

ROBIN: UNMASKED TP
* A 128-page trade paperback collecting ROBIN #121-125
* Written by Bill Willingham with art by Rick Mays, Francisco
Rodriguez de la Fuente, Aaron Sowd and Jason Pearson
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in August with a cover price
of $12.95 U.S.

THE LEGION: FOUNDATIONS TP
* A 200-page trade paperback collecting THE LEGION #25-30 and
THE LEGION SECRET FILES 3003
* Written by Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning with art by Chris
Batista & Chip Wallace, Tony Harris & Tom Feister, Eric Wight, Dave
Cockrum, Paul Rivoche, Leonard Kirk & Robin Riggs, Doug Hazlewood, Al
Milgrom and Lanning.
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in August with a cover price
of $19.95 U.S.

SUPERMAN ADVENTURES Vol. 1: UP, UP AND AWAY! TP
* A 112-page digest collecting SUPERMAN ADVENTURES #16, 19
and 22-24
* Written by Mark Millar with art by Aluir Amancio & Terry
Austin and Mike Manley
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in August with a cover price
of $6.95 U.S.

SUPERMAN ADVENTURES Vol. 2: THE NEVER-ENDING BATTLE TP
* A 112-page digest collecting SUPERMAN ADVENTURES #25-29
* Written by Mark Millar with art by Aluir Amancio & Terry
Austin and Mike Manley
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in August with a cover price
of $6.95 U.S.</blockquote>

[gormuu1]

Finally! Charlton Archives makes a bow, and in hardcover! HALLELUJAH!!!!!

[Hdefined]

Originally posted by MattBrady

THE LEGION: FOUNDATIONS TP
* A 200-page trade paperback collecting THE LEGION #25-30 and
THE LEGION SECRET FILES 3003
* Written by Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning with art by Chris
Batista & Chip Wallace, Tony Harris & Tom Feister, Eric Wight, Dave
Cockrum, Paul Rivoche, Leonard Kirk & Robin Riggs, Doug Hazlewood, Al
Milgrom and Lanning.
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in August with a cover price
of $19.95 U.S.

Better late than never, I suppose. But what about the rest of DnA's Legion? Because of lack of trades, I've already hunted most of the single issues down, but I really wish the trades had been in stock.

[jawaplumber]

That's great news about the SUPERMAN ADVENTURES digests. Those Mark Millar issues are the best of the series, and some of the best Superman stories of the past ten years. It was the only Superman title I was reading while the core titles absolutely sucked for awhile. They should compile the Kelley Puckett/Mike Parobeck issues of BATMAN ADVENTURES Vol. 1, next :)

I wish the FLASH trades weren't so damn expensive. Still, I'll be buying BLITZ, as I missed out on the single issues because of the crappy store I USED to buy my comics at.

I'll be picking up the ACTION HERO ARCHIVES. Maybe not right away, depending on money (them Archives ain't cheap!), but I definitely want it. Ditko rules :)

[Velvet Glove]

WOo hoo, more JLA/JSA TPBS, I'm so glad they're continuing this series. The stories are goofy as heck but a lot of fun.

[Frans Blix]

Originally posted by Hdefined
Better late than never, I suppose. But what about the rest of DnA's Legion? Because of lack of trades, I've already hunted most of the single issues down, but I really wish the trades had been in stock.

I think this all but confirms that we'll never see the early DnA stuff in trade. I mean, Foundations isn't even good if you put it up next to Legion Lost or the early issues of "The Legion."

As has been speculated, it must have something to do with Coipel. Of course, we still don't know what that would be.

[tralfaz]

where's the damn Legion trades for Legion lost, Legion world, and the earlier DnA Legion trade? bastards!!!!

[Zadillo]

I'm really glad DC is doing the Greatest Superman Stories Ever Told (actually, I don't know if this has already been published before, but it's the first I've heard of it at least).

The original "Greatest Batman Stories Ever Told" and "The Greatest Joker Stories Ever Told" were some of my earliest comic book TPB's, and I have gotten a tremendous amount of enjoyment from them. It's a lot of fun to be able to have one collection with so many different eras and takes on a single character. I'm really looking forward to picking this one up.

Also really glad to hear the "Crisis on Multiple Earths" TPB's are continuing... I enjoyed the first two and I'm looking forward to seeing more of these stories.

-Zadillo

[Franklin Harris]

Originally posted by MattBrady
ACTION HERO ARCHIVES Vol. 1 HC
* A 228-page hardcover collecting stories from SPACE
ADVENTURES #33-42 and CAPTAIN ATOM #78-82, from 1960 through 1966
* Written by Steve Ditko, Joe Gill and David Kaler with art
by Ditko, Rocke Mastroserio and Frank McLaughlin
* Scheduled to arrive in stores in August with a cover price
of $49.95 U.S.

Going by the rather generic title, I guess DC plans to issue all of the Charlton reprints as one collection. Vol. 1 stops just before the introduction of Ditko's Blue Beetle in Captain Atom No. 83. So I suspect Vol. 2, if it happens (and it better), will finish the Captain Atom run and toss in the complete Blue Beetle run with "The Question" backup features, and maybe Mysterious Suspense No. 1, the only full-issue Question story Charlton published.

And in case anyone is wondering, DC isn't calling it the Charlton Archives because DC doesn't own the trademark to the Charlton name, just the Charlton characters.

And if you think that I think that this is the best comics news I've heard in ages, you're right.

[TimTurnip]

What's with this new Greatest Superman Stories Ever Told? The original TPB by that name was 327 pages. This one is listed at 192 pages (and is four dollars more than my original). I might think that perhaps this was intended as a Volume 2, but even though it has a mostly different collection of stories, they apparently overlap "Must There Be A Superman?" from Superman #247 and the Superman ending-WWII story from Look magazine.

Ah, I see now... the old one is The Greatest Superman Stories Ever Told. This new one is Superman: The Greatest Stories Ever Told. Right. Woulda been nice if they'd merely reprinted Vol. 1 and done an all-new Vol. 2 (with a little more meat on the bone).

[Michael P]

So, I guess those of us waiting for more JSA trades should just screw off and die, then?

[TheRay]

Originally posted by Michael P
So, I guess those of us waiting for more JSA trades should just screw off and die, then?

Well...at least those are coming out more frequently than the remainder of James Robinson's amazing Starman series.

I've already got all the monthlies for Starman...but I absolutely love having the trades so easily accessible on my bookshelf.

What about those who are just now getting into this series through trades? The Starman trades have been coming out about once every 1-2 years...ridiculous.

[woodstock]

Originally posted by Michael P
So, I guess those of us waiting for more JSA trades should just screw off and die, then?

Prettttty much....

[chooch55555]

I really, really appreciate Marvel's policy of putting collections out quickly and in soft cover. You often have to wait well over a year to get a softcover of a marquee story from DC. What are they waiting for?

[Michael C Lorah]

Wow. I'm glad to see those Superman Adventures issues collected. His run on that series is Mark Millar's best work ever imo.

I might check out the Greatest Superman trade also. I've read a few of those issues, #1, #400, v.2 #18 and Man of Steel #1 and they're all quite good. If the others are of that quality, it'll be worth it.

Legion: Foundations is a shoo-in also.

Both of Rucka's books, the Archer's Quest and GL/GA are contenders also. I'll have to see how many other books are grabgin for my attention when those are released.

What about the Wildstorm and Vertigo stuff? That's where DC really gets my money.

[Cray_ws]

Originally posted by Michael C Lorah
what about the Wildstorm and Vertigo stuff? That's where DC really gets my money. Yeah I'm anxious to see that list.

[gren99]

here's the WS/vertigo stuff:

http://newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11138

[Frans Blix]

Originally posted by Michael P
So, I guess those of us waiting for more JSA trades should just screw off and die, then?

Well, you had JSA:Liberty File last month, and you've got JSA:All Stars next month. I know you're probably referring to the monthly, but it's not there's nothing out there for you to buy.

[Frans Blix]

Originally posted by chooch55555
I really, really appreciate Marvel's policy of putting collections out quickly and in soft cover. You often have to wait well over a year to get a softcover of a marquee story from DC. What are they waiting for?

More titles to collect than Marvel, more demand for trades for older material like Crisis on Multiple Earths, and DC does OGNs, which take up publishing slots.

[Matches Malone]

Originally posted by Michael P
So, I guess those of us waiting for more JSA trades should just screw off and die, then?

I doubt this is a comprehensive list. Geoff Johns has indicated DC is going to try to get two more JSA tpb's out this year.

[Matches Malone]

Originally posted by Michael C Lorah
Both of Rucka's books, the Archer's Quest and GL/GA are contenders also. I'll have to see how many other books are grabgin for my attention when those are released.



Just FYI Rucka didn't write "Archer's Quest". Brad Meltzer did the honors. Definitely worth picking up, though.

[Kamandi2]

Isn't DC skipping 3 issues of Captain Atom stories? Strange Suspense Stories # 75-77 featured Captain Atom before the book was renamed Captain Atom with # 78.

[Franklin Harris]

Originally posted by Kamandi2
Isn't DC skipping 3 issues of Captain Atom stories? Strange Suspense Stories # 75-77 featured Captain Atom before the book was renamed Captain Atom with # 78.

Those issues of Strange Suspense just reprint the earlier stories from Space Adventures. So nothing is being left out.

[MicroZone]

Originally posted by chooch55555
I really, really appreciate Marvel's policy of putting collections out quickly and in soft cover. You often have to wait well over a year to get a softcover of a marquee story from DC. What are they waiting for?

DC's order of printing/reprinting for 'marquee stories' is as follows:
periodical
hardcover
paperback

Anything below that bypasses the hardcover format.

[Simon DelMonte]

Interesting group of TPBs and the like, though the best stuff here I already own.

Might get the third Crisis book, since it's more modern than the too-cheezy-to-be-believed stories in the first collection. Will look for the WW collection at some point.

I am quite intrigued by the Cpat. Atom collection. Not because I expect it to be any good, but because it's remarkable DC is publishing it. From what I've read, the bulk of the Charlton Capt. Atom tales were pretty bad, and very jingoisitic. As the basis for a cooked-up origin story in the DC Capt. Atom series, they were great, but I suspect they will age badly.

What I want to see is the original Ted Kord stories, and the Question back-up stories from that series. (I loved the Ditko Question story DC reprinted a couple of yeras ago.)

[comicasa]

The Green Arrow Trades come out in the wrong order:

Recently we got :
Green Arrow TP vol 3 : Straight Shooter, which reprints issues 26 to 31. This should have been volume 4 (actuall number 5 if they reprinted the Green Arrow/Green Lantern 6-part crossover Black Circle).

Green Arrow TP Archer's Quest now comes as number 4??

And where is the bloody hard cover of Straight shooter? You should see my bookshelf. Nice -> Green Arrow HC 1, 2, 3 and then TP number 3. Doesn't make any bloody sense.

Why no Legion Lost TP? Beats me, this is an amazing series. I could easily sell lots of 'm. Even a hard cover would sell. Instant cash DC!! Wake up.
R.

[swol]

Originally posted by Velvet Glove
WOo hoo, more JLA/JSA TPBS, I'm so glad they're continuing this series. The stories are goofy as heck but a lot of fun.

I agree.
but I think that this is probably the last volume.
If I remember correctly, these were the last regular crossovers before the CRISIS.

Personally I'm really looking forward to this volume as Justice League 100 was what really kicked me into high speed comic fan mode. Never looked back since then.

As my son likes to say... "Good times. Good times."

[Franklin Harris]

Originally posted by Simon DelMonte
I am quite intrigued by the Cpat. Atom collection. Not because I expect it to be any good, but because it's remarkable DC is publishing it. From what I've read, the bulk of the Charlton Capt. Atom tales were pretty bad, and very jingoisitic. As the basis for a cooked-up origin story in the DC Capt. Atom series, they were great, but I suspect they will age badly.

What I want to see is the original Ted Kord stories, and the Question back-up stories from that series. (I loved the Ditko Question story DC reprinted a couple of yeras ago.)

Jingoistic? Well, they are a product of their time. Also, the earliest Captain Atom stories from Space Adventures are each only 5 pages long, which doesn't allow for much complexity. The main attraction of them, of course, is Steve Ditko's artwork.

And I'll just add that I have received word that my guess about a potential Vol. 2 may be dead on. So, support Vol. 1, and we'll all get a nice hardcover of Ditko's Blue Beetle and Question stories.

[SpyGuy]

Not a bad assortment this time...I'm extremely disappointed by the still-unseen FLASH ARCHIVES VOL. 4, but at least we get another ALL-STAR and I know a lot of people have wanted a Charlton ARCHIVE volume for some time...

Here's what I'm picking up:

GREEN LANTERN/GREEN ARROW Vol. 2 TP
ALL STAR COMICS ARCHIVES Vol. 10 HC
CRISIS ON MULTIPLE EARTHS Vol. 3 TP
THE FLASH: BLITZ TP (About bloody time!)
BATMAN: HUSH Vol. 1 TP (Should have combined Vol. 1 & 2)
SUPERMAN: THE GREATEST STORIES EVER TOLD TP
GREEN ARROW: ARCHER'S QUEST TP
ACTION HERO ARCHIVES Vol. 1 HC (Maybe)
THE LEGION: FOUNDATIONS TP

[Goodman]

It'll be nice to finally read Hush (am I patient or what).

Even I'm losing patience with how slowly they're reprinting JSA though...

[Matches Malone]

Originally posted by swol
I agree.
but I think that this is probably the last volume.
If I remember correctly, these were the last regular crossovers before the CRISIS.

Personally I'm really looking forward to this volume as Justice League 100 was what really kicked me into high speed comic fan mode. Never looked back since then.

As my son likes to say... "Good times. Good times."

No no; there are a bunch more. The JLA/JSA crossovers continued up to JLA #244. JLA #244 was a Crisis crossover, but all the others are pre-Crisis stories.

[Cousin Cory]

Originally posted by Matches Malone
No no; there are a bunch more. The JLA/JSA crossovers continued up to JLA #244. JLA #244 was a Crisis crossover, but all the others are pre-Crisis stories.

Yes, and as I recall, several of the later crossovers were 3-parters- the one with the JLA, JSA, and All-Star Squadron was even a 5-parter- so if they continue this series (fingers crossed!), I'd expect we'll get another 3 volumes (for a total of 6).

[Michael C Lorah]

Originally posted by Matches Malone
Just FYI Rucka didn't write "Archer's Quest". Brad Meltzer did the honors. Definitely worth picking up, though.

I know. Maybe my initial quote wasn't clear. Rucka's two books (Death & Maidens and Wonder Woman), Archer's Quest (by Meltzer) and GL/GA (O'Neill & Adams) look to be worth considering.
My only real hesitation with the Archer's Quest, since it seems to be universally loved, is that I found a copy of a Meltzer novel (the Tenth Justice) at a yard sale for $1 and I don't think that I got the better end of the deal.

Since I've got GL/GA vol.1 here, I'll read that before making a decision on vol.2.
Money will be a deciding factor for Rucka's books.

[Matches Malone]

Originally posted by Michael C Lorah
I know. Maybe my initial quote wasn't clear. Rucka's two books (Death & Maidens and Wonder Woman), Archer's Quest (by Meltzer) and GL/GA (O'Neill & Adams) look to be worth considering.
My only real hesitation with the Archer's Quest, since it seems to be universally loved, is that I found a copy of a Meltzer novel (the Tenth Justice) at a yard sale for $1 and I don't think that I got the better end of the deal.

Since I've got GL/GA vol.1 here, I'll read that before making a decision on vol.2.
Money will be a deciding factor for Rucka's books.

Ah. Sorry I misread your earlier post. Rucka's DEATH & THE MAIDEN has been something of a disappointment for me, but it may read a lot better as a tpb.

[Michael P]

Originally posted by Matches Malone
I doubt this is a comprehensive list. Geoff Johns has indicated DC is going to try to get two more JSA tpb's out this year. They bloody well better.

[swol]

Originally posted by Matches Malone
Ah. Sorry I misread your earlier post. Rucka's DEATH & THE MAIDEN has been something of a disappointment for me, but it may read a lot better as a tpb.
I held off on buying this as monthlies.
Wasn't sure if it was worth the monry.

Would anyone here consider this to be an "important" story? continuity-wise I mean.

[swol]

Originally posted by Cousin Cory
Yes, and as I recall, several of the later crossovers were 3-parters- the one with the JLA, JSA, and All-Star Squadron was even a 5-parter- so if they continue this series (fingers crossed!), I'd expect we'll get another 3 volumes (for a total of 6).

I don't know how I could have forgotten those...still not ringing a bell.

I do recall the massive cross-over slightly.

I expect I was a bit distracted during those years. (minor stuff like college, jobs, marriage, etc.) ;)

To badly mis-quote a famous movie line..."If they print them, I will buy".

[Matches Malone]

re: Death & The Maidens

Originally posted by swol
I held off on buying this as monthlies.
Wasn't sure if it was worth the monry.

Would anyone here consider this to be an "important" story? continuity-wise I mean.

Well it expands significantly on Ra's Al Ghul's backstory, and it has been billed as the "final" Ra's story. If you believe Ra's will never show up again, I've got some lovely swampland to sell you, but it is being advertised as a big event.

[swol]

Originally posted by Matches Malone
re: Death & The Maidens



Well it expands significantly on Ra's Al Ghul's backstory, and it has been billed as the "final" Ra's story. If you believe Ra's will never show up again, I've got some lovely swampland to sell you, but it is being advertised as a big event.

Sounds about what I expected I suppose.
I may spring for the trade.

I figure that Ra's will make a "dramatic reappearance" right about the time that "Batman Begins"opens in theaters. (Lousey title BTW).

Of course if this were Marvel, there would be Ra's stories in Batman, Detective, and a couple mini's as well at that time ala Doc Ock.

:rolleyes:

[chooch55555]

Originally posted by MicroZone
DC's order of printing/reprinting for 'marquee stories' is as follows:
periodical
hardcover
paperback

Anything below that bypasses the hardcover format.

Yes, I understand that. I just don't like it. Guess I should have made that more clear. The Hardcover first policy (often six months to a year before softcover) is really annoying since it is essentially just a way to squeeze a few extra bucks out of the consumer. Not that I want to deny people access to Hardcovers if that's their thing. Marvel does both in a close timeframe. I'd like that option with my favorite DC titles.

Also the lag time before even the hardcover comes out or the trades on a series that isn't published anymore (i.e. Starman) is way too long in today's marketplace. I've lost interest in titles I would likely have bought if they came out quickly. Marvel is getting more of my dollars lately. I'd be happy to show DC the love, but they're just not putting out the product.

[Matches Malone]

Originally posted by chooch55555
Also the lag time before even the hardcover comes out or the trades on a series that isn't published anymore (i.e. Starman) is way too long in today's marketplace. I've lost interest in titles I would likely have bought if they came out quickly. Marvel is getting more of my dollars lately. I'd be happy to show DC the love, but they're just not putting out the product.

I really think the lag time is a good thing. Annoying to wait through, maybe, but Marvel's almost-immediate tpb's create competition between the monthlies and the tpb's. I can't help but think Marvel loses sales of some of its monthlies because people know the tpb will come out a month or two later.

The annual volumes of books like STARMAN really aren't a problem for me. I'm anxious to read the whole series, of course, but the delay really isn't any different from the delay between volumes of a series of novels. It's fun to catch up after a break.

What I do wish DC would do is some variation of Marvel's oversized HC's. Those are fantastic, and put DC's to shame. I would have loved an oversized Hush HC collecting the whole series.

[drdash]

the only one i will definitely pick up will be death and the maidens. I missed the first few issues so i figured to wait until they released a trade, plus ra's al ghul is my fave bats villain, so i will have to pick this up.

ciao
drdash

[kcekada]

Great news regarding the Catwoman TPB! It seems fans are very receptive to these collections which include stories from the Silver Age and early 70s.

Hope they do something similar with Batgirl, Supergirl and Wonder Woman (a collection of mod tales would rock!).

[DrTzinTzin]

Originally posted by swol
I agree.
but I think that this is probably the last volume.
If I remember correctly, these were the last regular crossovers before the CRISIS.



Swol...I don't want to put crap on you or anything but there were quite a few more crossovers before Crisis between the two.


1963 (JLA #s 21-22) :
1964 (JLA #s 29-30)
1965 (JLA #s 37-38)
1966 (JLA #s 46-47)
1967 (JLA #s 55-56)
1968 (JLA #s 64-65)
1969 (JLA #s 73-74)
1970 (JLA #s 82-83)
1971 (JLA #s 91-92)
1972 (JLA #s 100, 101, 102)
1973 (JLA #s 107-108)
1974 (JLA # 113)
1975 (JLA #s 123-124)
1976 (JLA #s 135, 136, 137)
1977 (JLA #s 147-148)
1978 (JLA #s 159-160)
1979 (JLA #s 171-172)
1980 (JLA #s 183, 184, 185)
1981 (JLA #s 195, 196, 197)
1982 (JLA #s 207, 208, 209)
1983 (JLA #s 219, 220)
1984 (JLA #s 231, 232)
1985 (JLA # 244)

The first 11 years of cross over will be all collected when the C.O.M.E. Vol 3 is released.

If they decide to make more the next two will probably look like this.

Vol. 4 - (123-124); (135-137); (147-148); (159-160)

Vol. 5 - (171-172); (183-185); (195-197)

Vol 6 if it gets put out will contain these

(JLA #s 207, 208, 209, 219, 220, 231, 232, 244; ASS 14, 15)

I don’t know if D.C. will think it viable to put out 80’s comics because they are reasonably inexpensive if hard to find.

[DrTzinTzin]

Originally posted by drdash
the only one i will definitely pick up will be death and the maidens. I missed the first few issues so i figured to wait until they released a trade, plus ra's al ghul is my fave bats villain, so i will have to pick this up.

ciao
drdash

To be honest Dr Dash, I'd save my money or at least spend it on something worth it. If you haven't already got the issues or the tpb buy the Tales of The Demon which reprints all the Denny O'Neil written Ra's stories from the 70's.

[Zadillo]

Originally posted by DrTzinTzin
To be honest Dr Dash, I'd save my money or at least spend it on something worth it. If you haven't already got the issues or the tpb buy the Tales of The Demon which reprints all the Denny O'Neil written Ra's stories from the 70's.

I'm sure we all have different opinions, but I personally think Death and the Maidens is worth it. Especially after reading the last issue (issue 8), I can't wait for the conclusion. I think it's been a fantastic story.

Did you read all 8 issues that are out so far and not like it?

-Zadillo

[DrTzinTzin]

Originally posted by Zadillo
I'm sure we all have different opinions, but I personally think Death and the Maidens is worth it. Especially after reading the last issue (issue 8), I can't wait for the conclusion. I think it's been a fantastic story.

Did you read all 8 issues that are out so far and not like it?

-Zadillo

Yes, I kept hoping for it to have direction but it replaced coherence with some rather disgusting stuff set in that concentration camp. It just showed me how much realistic nastiness has crept into comics in the last few years.

I come to comics to escape from reality, not to see dogs whizzing on corpses, people cannabalizing each other and scenes from Nazi camps which is just some of what Batman has given me in the last 5 years alone.

It's no surprise that my comic collecting and reading restarted after watching TV for 8 hours straight that Tuesday night (I'm 18 hours ahead remember) back in September of 2001.

:(

[Zadillo]

Originally posted by DrTzinTzin
Yes, I kept hoping for it to have direction but it replaced coherence with some rather disgusting stuff set in that concentration camp. It just showed me how much realistic nastiness has crept into comics in the last few years.

I come to comics to escape from reality, not to see dogs whizzing on corpses, people cannabalizing each other and scenes from Nazi camps which is just some of what Batman has given me in the last 5 years alone.

It's no surprise that my comic collecting and reading restarted after watching TV for 8 hours straight that Tuesday night (I'm 18 hours ahead remember) back in September of 2001.

:(

Hrmm, all I can say is that the concentration camp scenes were not gratuitous, and were fundamentally necessary to the story; Nyssa's motivation, as revealed in issue 8, had a lot to do with wanting revenge on Ra's for allowing her and her family to suffer in the concentration camp. And Ra's makes an argument explaining it.

I don't know though, I guess I can see where you're coming from, and certainly it is difficult imagery to deal with (I lost my great-grandparents in the Holocaust), but it did make sense I think in the context of this story.

Just my opinion.

-Zadillo