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JJ Fresh
04-19-2007, 08:56 PM
This title has definitely polarized the fans. Some call it boring, and others say it matches well with Kirkman's other works. Let's see how this issue stacks up, shall we? (PS: This has no business in the forums, but how good are my Cavaliers right now? I've been peeing rainbows all day after the Bulls loss).

Ultimate X-men 81
"Cliffhangers"
Writer: Robert Kirkman
Artist: Ben Oliver

The Plot:
Sinister is found dead in his prison cell thanks to suffocation, but that isn't the only developments happening in the Triskellion. Mastermind comes with his girlfriend Stacy (AKA Snake Lady from Joe Casey's short "Uncanny X-men" stint) to replace Mystique posing as Magneto in the plastic cell. Mystique has been called to Magneto's new commune, so off she goes posing as a guard. Business at the school continues, minus
X-men missions. Theodore is being teased with the name Grizzly, Toad is a teacher, and Scott and Jean need more instructors to help out. Meanwhile, Gerald (the Shi'ar Church's liason) puts in a call to Shinobi Shaw, Emma Frost's boyfriend. Nightcrawler finds the Morlock lair too.

Now the big development: Beast is back. Nick Fury had him believing he was actually talking with his friends and family all along while working in the lab, but now that Xavier is dead the effects have worn off. He's working on a cure for the Legacy Virus (which hasn't been released yet, but if we know anything it will be). He's also cured his fuzzy factor, monkey man Hank McCoy is back. Elsewhere, a mutant representing the Mutant Liberation Front is zapped by a Sentinel and Storm has a dream about the Shadow King (which she then rushes to add to her play). A knock on the door and there stands Bishop ready to rebuild the X-men with Ororo's help. <Phew>

Pro:
Eh...not much. I really like the iconic pose of human Beast. So what if it blew the surprise of the issue? Yanick Paquette and his team give us a great pose and illustration here.

The other thing I enjoyed was what the ending gave us, an all-new and all-different X-men. For the entire series we've been treated to a pretty regular cast of characters, nothing too exciting. The X-men have always prided themselves in changing the order of things, on who does or doesn't wear one of those outfits. For the first time in this series we can have something completely different, I like the thought of speculation and the chance for new faces to get some spotlight.

Con:
More ultimazations? Shinobi Shaw, legacy virus, Grizzly, MLF, Stacy X, and the Shadow King. Enough is enough! One benefit of this title versus the core titles is the "no more mutants" decree, so...create new ones. Retreading all these things and characters leads to monotony and mediocrity. Kirkman has a huge head filled with ideas (his Image work is testament to that), so give us something new! I'll admit, X-men are tough because Claremont almost did it all, but look at the work of Morrison and Whedon, there are still NEW stories to tell that don't involve retreads and the Phoenix.

Beast is back. No thanks. I miss Hank McCoy, but this return feels more like Kirkman wanting a chance to play with one of his favorites (in human form no less, which begs the question on why McCoy didn't do this earlier in the series) than something that seemed logical to the story. It all felt a little willy-nilly in its execution.

Finally, this was a very disjointed issue. I know the title is "Cliffhangers" and it was probably meant to follow this type of format, but man was it difficult to navigate. As my English teachers used to say (as I do now) "transitions, transitions, transitions". Nowhere to be seen here, creating a tough reading experience.

Final Grade:
I expect better from Kirkman, this issue was chock full of problems. From the lack of imagination to the new non-fuzzy Beast to the actual format, all the problems inhibit the issue. I see bright horizons coming up next, but this bridge point was very shaky at best.
C-

Ken B.
04-19-2007, 11:30 PM
I'm done with tis book for a bit. A bit too scattered, and while there were some nice developments in this issue, I've lost interest since the beginning of the Cable arc.

Beast coming back can work the way it was described, but come on, the guy isn't allowed to do anything but work on the legacy virus?

And if Scott wants to make the insitute a school, why not get help from Emma? Duh? At least in getting staff who will work around mutants?

Story C-
Art B

Ye Olde Iowa
04-20-2007, 09:48 AM
I actually like this issue, but then again, prior to the "Cable" arc, I've only read the first two storylines on this title. Personally, I like how Kirkman is folding in a lot of classic 616 X-Men characters in interesting ways. I personally like seeing Beast staying in his human form, simply because it is different than his ever-changing beastial state in the regular Marvel U. The only thing I didn't like in this issue was the Storm/Shadow King bit, but that's just because I like this Storm even less than I do the 616 Storm and I strongly dislike that character. This isn't the best X-title on the market (New X-Men), but it is fairing far better than the worst (X-Men) or even the most mediocre (Uncanny X-Men)

Story: B
Art: B
Cover: B

gadietze
04-23-2007, 02:10 PM
I enjoyed this issue. It's title was exactly what it was. "Cliffhangers". That's all it was. There was so much stuff set up here that this issue pretty much could be the basis for the next five years of plots. The only problem. It was done all in one issue. So there's lots of set up, but no plot. It is disjointed. But I liked it. And coming off a rather lackluster "Cable" arc it was refreshing. Not as good as if Kirkman had done these individual scenes in other arcs, but I think those days of more serialized storytelling are gone with the advent of "trade collections".

I was a little miffed that the big comeback was spoiled on the cover, but at least we have Beast back. And he's not a cat. So thumbs up there.

Ult.Strange
04-23-2007, 05:31 PM
Ugh. I thought the whole point of the Ultimate universe (other than drawing in new readers for a new generation and all that) was to be edgier and grittier and less compromising. Characters were supposed to stay dead. Leave it to Marvel to go back on their word, twice, in as many months.

I mean, when Chuck "killed" Magneto at the end of the Tomorrow People, I knew that wouldn't stick... explosions are the easiest comic book death to escape from, but Beast's fate was supposed to be symbolic of Ultimate Marvel's edge, and when they "killed" Chuck at the end of Cable I knew that wouldn't stick either, but I thought they'd give us more time to get used to him being dead before pulling that whole "switcheroo" thing.

There are plenty of brainiacs they could "Ultimatize" or (*gasp* *shudder*) create to combat the Ultimate Legacy Virus, but instead they bring back Beast? Lame....

That said, I actually am excited to see what they do with Ultimate Shinobi Shaw (a new Ultimate Hellfire Club with Shinobi as King and Frost as Queen?), and Ultimate Sinister and his apparent "death." And while I like Kirkman's angle on the Shadow King, the Shadow King always seemed lame and unnecessary in 616 so an Ultimate version just leaves me scratching my head...

JJ Fresh
04-23-2007, 11:19 PM
Characters were supposed to stay dead. Leave it to Marvel to go back on their word, twice, in as many months.
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Let's not make this an anti-Marvel rant. Every company is guilty on this one. Superboy punch! I don't like it either, but let's try and stay objective here.

Legend437
04-23-2007, 11:31 PM
I honestly like where things are headed now. They were a bit rough at first, but it seems like this book has a purpose now more than before.

BC 1
04-24-2007, 07:29 AM
Here's a question... wasn't one of Cable's Six Pack named "Grizzly"? And wasn't he vaguely Native American in ethnicity? Wouldn't that make Scott have a little "hmmm..." moment? Just asking.

Ult.Strange
04-24-2007, 11:52 AM
It wasn't an anti-Marvel thing as much as an anti-resurrection thing (which Marvel is generally worse at then DC, barring the occasional continuity shifting Crisis). I mean, I'm still kinda pissed that they brought Colossus back in 616, but God don't get me started on Superboy punches....

But speaking of deaths, was Sinister's suicide something that actually happened or a Mastermind illusion? I can't imagine Kirkman would honestly bring Sinister back on the board just to whack him. I thought it was an illusion but they never got back to it. And even if he did "commit suicide" I'd have to imagine he has some freaky physiology that would allow him to play dead long enough to stick him in a morgue or someplace he could escape from.

samurai9t9
04-25-2007, 11:28 AM
Here's a question... wasn't one of Cable's Six Pack named "Grizzly"? And wasn't he vaguely Native American in ethnicity? Wouldn't that make Scott have a little "hmmm..." moment? Just asking.

But that was the irony of it all, in the Cable arc Grizzly said he always secretly hated Cyclops, and now because of that Cyclops is "helping" Grizzly out. (i didnt get that either so i re-read the cable arc)

My problem with this so far is that it isn't all too exciting, the Cable arc just didnt do it for me, the first two issues i enjoyed but other then that i kind found myself feeling let down by it with a "big whoop" ending. Maybe it's because recently i bought most of the old hardcovers and enjoyed them so much. I dunno.

Personally i wish Oliver stayed on as the artist, i really enjoy his art

Chickencha
04-25-2007, 11:53 AM
I really like Kirkman in general. His Image books are wonderful and he's done some good work on Ant-Man, but I've been pretty back and forth on his Ultimate X-Men run. This is an issue that I can definitively say that I didn't like.

Problems:
If Sinister really is dead, then it seems like a huge wasted opportunity. Ultimate Sinister is/was actually a fairly interesting character who definitely had potential for future use. Let's hope that the death was faked (by Mastermind?) and that there's still more in store for Sinister. It seems like this is the direction Kirkman's going 'cause otherwise it seems pretty random to just kill him off.

I hate Beast's resurrection. Absolutely hate it. I really like Beast as a character, but I just can't stand resurrections like this. As far as I know, this is the first ret-con resurrection in the Ultimate Universe. (I'm pretty sure the Magneto "resurrection" was planned all along, so I don't count that.)

I'm also uneasy about all these loose ends. I know this is sort of the same thing Kirkman does on Invincible, but the difference is that presumably Kirkman will be writing Invincible for as long as it runs, whereas his run on Ultimate X-Men is limited. It seems like he's going to have a tough time tying up a lot of the loose ends he's created. I think it's okay to have some loose ends when a run finishes, sort of like what Vaughan did, but Kirkman will need probably at least 16 more issues to tie up a decent amount. I'm not sure I see him staying on that long, but I could be wrong.

All in all, a pretty disappointing issue.

aceatkins
04-25-2007, 03:42 PM
This seemed to me like a Hail Mary pass on Kirkman's part. The general reaction I've seen to his tenure on the book has been "Meh" at best. He certainly tried to give people something to talk about here. But I agree that it was a kind of throw-everything-on-the-wall-and-see-what-sticks kind of approach, which is generally kind of lazy storytelling. Of course, it could have just been a very po-mo way of dealing with some of the X-Men franchise's most criticized hallmarks, the overabundance of cliffhangers and the never-ending dangling plot threads.

In any event, I'm ambivalent about Beast's resurrection. I can kind of buy the explanation, but the de-furring is a little...convenient. (Plus, who really likes ape beast?) I do, however, like the possibility that he's now free to hook up with The Ultimates. Then again, should he get shunted into that book, we will never see him again, ever. So he might as well as stayed dead.

I agree that Scott's idea to turn the place into a school when a school ALREADY EXISTS to do exactly what he wants is beyond foolish.