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MattBrady

03-20-2007, 03:59 PM

<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Dark_Horse/Hellboy/HBDC01.jpg" align="right">by Steve Ekstrom

Mike Mignola has been dazzling comic book readers for close to 15 years with his creation, Hellboy, a sarcastic paranormal investigator with a penchant for underachievement—who is in turn a demon himself. With a number of successful mini-series from Dark Horse Comics; a successful spin-off title, B.P.R.D., a series of books with regards to Hellboy’s supporting cast who have just as strong a cult following as their leading man; the box office hit movie in 2004; and a faithful cartoon adaptation of his “World’s Greatest Paranormal Investigator”—Mignola shows no signs up slowing down.

Newsarama was fortunate enough to catch Mike on a day where he wasn’t “as busy”.

Newsarama: You’re having a tremendously busy year—I almost don’t know where to start. When do you sleep or do you feed off of the souls of the living like some Lovecraftian fiend from one of your Hellboy stories?

Mike Mignola: (laughs) You will have to ask my wife—at least, I don’t think I’m feeding off human souls. I get some sleep. I’ve been very busy with a number of projects so I get my rest when I can. I have a number of projects this year—I’m not drawing them s I can focus on writing a lot more.

NRAMA: We’ll start off with BPRD: Garden of Souls. It hits stands this week—co-written with John Arcudi with art by Guy Davis; Abe Sapien and Captain Daimao figure prominently in this arc—what should readers expect this time around?

MM: Well, I’d say it’s more about Abe and the room they found at the end of the last mini-series. Abe’s associates from the past who kept him in a water casket told him that they would return “when things were safe again”—so expect to see some developments in regards to that.

<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Dark_Horse/Hellboy/GardenSouls.jpg" align="left">NRAMA: Will Garden of Souls lead into the Abe Sapien mini-series scheduled for this summer you’ve written featuring art from Jason Alexander?

MM: No it does not—the Abe Sapien mini-series that Jason is drawing is actually a “Year One”—it’s not technically the first year but it is focusing on a period of Abe’s life where Hellboy and Abe having been running around for a few months together. Now Hellboy has gone off; Abe really isn’t a full blown agent yet but he does accompany other agents on a mission that goes terribly wrong so it becomes Abe’s first solo mission. It becomes a “make it or break it” type of a moment. It takes place in 1982 or something like that.

NRAMA: Along those lines, will Hellboy be returning to the Bureau any time soon? They seem to be taking care of business with the exception of the apparent death of Roger the Homunculus.

MM: Hellboy is going in a radically different direction; it’s possible that they will meet up again but the character of Hellboy is changing so radically now that—well, I shouldn’t say that his character is changing so much—in that, he’s becoming more involved in the folklore world and because he is in that folklore world, he has less to do, day in and day out, with human affairs all the time. He’s pretty much slipping off the face of the Earth.

<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Dark_Horse/Hellboy/HBDC02.jpg" align="right">NRAMA: Is Roger going to stay dead?

MM: I’ve always said that in Hellboy, when people die, they just become much more interesting characters. There are no plans to do anything with Roger in the foreseeable future; but it’s hard to say anybody is really dead since so many of the characters in Hellboy that are playing big parts have, at one time or another, been dead. All the main characters in the B.P.R.D. have been dead at least once—Hellboy has now been dead once. So, you know, Roger is kind of the new kid on the block having only been dead once or twice—he’s certainly in bad shape; let’s put it that way. He seemed very happy the last time we saw him so I would kind of like to leave him where he is happy.

NRAMA: In April, Hellboy returns in Hellboy: Darkness Calls—set a year after the events in Hellboy: The Island, what can readers expect now that you’re taking the character in a new direction away from everything you’ve established and now that Hellboy knows a little more about where he’s from?

MM: It’s over a year—it took him a really long time to get away from that island. Hellboy doesn’t really know that much more about ‘where he’s from’ but I think the big change is that he’s stopped the denial; he’s no longer denying what he is—his head isn’t in the sand anymore. He’s not really actively pursuing questions like ‘where do I come from’ but he’s more open to seeing what’s going to happen. Darkness Calls starts Hellboy onto a path where he is literally walking to a crossroads and kind of standing their saying, “Okay, which way do I go?” Once he puts himself in that position—forces kind of take over and he begins this whole new cycle of his life which will go through English and Russian folklore; it’s going to be unlike anything I’ve done in Hellboy so far. It’s really a series of mini-series or graphic novels that tell one big story.

NRAMA: Hellboy: Darkness Calls is the first of a trilogy right?

MM: It started out that way and now it’s starting to look like four books. God knows how many more books it’ll end up being but I know right now that there is a very definite arc—definitely a three book trilogy and there is a fourth book that will be dealing with the fallout of the trilogy. I don’t know what you call something that’s four books. (laugh) This has been so much fun and I’m so happy with the way everything is going. It’s my favorite of the Hellboy stories; it’s the biggest of the Hellboy stories and in a lot of ways, it is what Hellboy was always meant to be. It’s almost like I’ve spent the last ten to fifteen years laying the groundwork for this.

NRAMA: Darkness Calls also signifies Duncan Fregedo becoming the new regular artist for Hellboy—what brought on this change to your creative dynamic?

<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Dark_Horse/Hellboy/HBDC03.jpg" align="left">MM: There’s just such a long list of books I’m working on—I just couldn’t draw them all. I’ve gotten slower as I’ve gotten older. I’ve gotten a lot more obsessive about my design—I ran into a lot of trouble with the last two mini-series because I had become so obsessive and I was re-drawing pages; plus, with all the things going on, trying to run the other comics, dealing with the films and stuff like that—it became very clear that I wouldn’t be able to do a Hellboy story of any length and I wanted to do this gigantic arc of a Hellboy story.

It became a question of “do I do this with another artist” or “is this story just never going to get told”—it literally never would’ve gotten done. There was no way I could do a story this size and I didn’t want to compromise; I didn’t want to do a smaller story. I wanted to do this story the way it needed to be done.

Fortunately I was able to get Duncan Fregedo, who is spectacular—there are so many things he can do that I can’t do. I think people will see that immediately when they see the arc in this book because his attention to detail is just more than I would’ve put into a book. Had I drawn Hellboy fighting an army of skeletons it would’ve been Hellboy and sixteen black lumps—two of which would’ve had a little detail on them—whereas when Duncan draws Hellboy fighting an army of skeletons; Duncan draws an army of skeletons. As a writer, I’d much rather work with an artist like Guy Davis or Duncan Fregedo than Mike Mignola. (laughs)

NRAMA: Are there any other artists that you would like to see tackle the Hellboy universe?

<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Dark_Horse/Hellboy/BlackFlame.jpg" align="right">MM: Yeah there are some—right now, Craig Russell is drawing a Hellboy story that’ll be in the next Hellboy trade that will be out later this year. There are several other artists that I am beginning to talk to; as I’m shifting to writing more and more I am realizing that there are so many more stories I want to tell so now I’m like, “Oh wait! If I can write this for other people…” then the stories become much more doable. There is a story involving Hellboy in Mexico that I am talking to an artist about; there is also a story about Hellboy in the Appalachian Mountains that I’ve wanted to do for years. It’s sad that I’m not drawing it but it opens up a whole new world of possibilities for these books.

NRAMA: Over the past several year, with all the BPRD projects, a successful movie, and now cartoons—you’ve really added quite a lot of depth to the Hellboy mythos—as things begin to unfold over the next several months will readers see any points of convergence with all the materials? Does the continuity of the film intertwine with the status quo of your comic book universe or are they separate?

MM: Not with the animation and the film, those are all separate entities. I think what you’ll see, as we go forward with animated films, it is starting to look like we will get a chance to do a third film—you’ll start getting a sense of that Hellboy world. We’ll eventually cover Hellboy’s origin in that animation world which will be a little different than the origin in the live-action film and the origin in the comic. You’ll start to get a sense of how that Hellboy world functions—it will be the same in the live-action film. In the film, Hellboy will be heading in a certain direction which is different than the direction he’s heading in the comic—it deals with the same subject matter that’s in the comic, especially what is coming up in this story arc; focusing on folklore, a lot of which is in the film. It’s a different treatment of the same idea; the character of Hellboy will be going in a different direction than the direction in the comic.

<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Dark_Horse/Hellboy/BPRD2.jpg" align="left">NRAMA: Staying in that same vein, you’ve got the project, BPRD: 1946 co-written with Joshua Dysart and drawn by Paul Azaceta—it features Professor Broome, a character who was developed largely in the Hellboy movie—are you going to revise him any?

MM: There has been no effort in the comics to pick up on the way something was done in the film. I’ve always known who the Professor Broome character was—there just wasn’t any room to do his story in the comic. While we do cover similar ground with Broome’s character, he’s not a radically different character in the comic than he was in the film because, you know, I had so much input on the film. What we see in the 1946 book is what this character was doing in those early years of the Bureau when he was going out and running field operations. It’s something never seen before—it’s funny; because people will see it some in the second Hellboy animated film. I’m always a little uncomfortable when things happen in the other mediums outside of the comic first because if we see Broome out doing field work in the animated film; I want to make sure we see him doing field work in the comics—in the real Hellboy universe.

NRAMA: Will there be book projects or cartoon projects that tie into your Hellboy movie sequel—a certain “other trilogy” faired well with a cartoon lead-in to its final movie last year. Would you want to do something like that for Hellboy 2?

MM: The studio could have went that direction with the animated film but I think the real purpose for having the animation is to fill that ‘time gap’ between the first and second films for the fan but there was no effort to continue the storyline of the first film. They could’ve said “we are doing the animated version of the Hellboy universe”—but they didn’t—they said, “Let’s create another Hellboy universe.” In the animated films, for example, Professor Broome is alive and they use the B.P.R.D. Headquarters from the comic.

NRAMA: This week, Dark Horse is releasing reprints of Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser project you did with Howard Chaykin way back when—how do you feel looking back on a body of work you did much earlier in your career?

MM: It’s about damn time. I’ve always said that that was the one pre-Hellboy thing of mine that is out of print that I’m very happy to see back in print. Looking back, there is a lot of stuff that I would have done differently—but so much of what I did now started in that Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser book. I’m still pretty proud of that book. I would hope that the atmosphere that Dark Horse has created around the Conan books that this book will get some attention. If tomorrow, for some reason, some power said that I couldn’t do Hellboy anymore—you can’t make up anymore new stuff—you’ve got to pick one thing you did from your past and you’ve got to do it for the rest of your life, it would be Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser.

NRAMA: Now that you’re a successful veteran in the comic book industry—would you want to take on an up and coming maverick artist and attempt something like F&tGM as a writer?

MM: I just don’t have the time right now—I have other projects outside of the Hellboy universe that I try to work on but right now, I’m just trying to keep the Hellboy universe up and running. I also have a Lobster Johnson mini-series, finally. I’ve got my hands full right now.

NRAMA: Looking at your success with the Hellboy franchise—do you ever feel creatively stifled by your own creations or confined by your success with Hellboy and his universe? Do you ever have the urge to want to go back and draw Alpha Flight or Batman again?

MM: (laughs) Not even for a second. It is frustrating because I do have unrelated projects I do want to do that I don’t have the time to work on; those small personal projects, like the Amazing Screw-On Head kind of thing, those projects are kind of stacking up off in a corner someplace. I do want to get to those. I have no interest in going back and drawing the stuff that I did at Marvel and DC because it is somebody else’s stuff. There are characters I grew up reading that I would love to draw—a lot of Jack Kirby characters—that I haven’t had the chance to draw. You can tell, you’ll see a cover I did—I did a Thor cover a few years back; it was Thor fighting the Absorbing Man. Why? Because a guy called me up and asked me if I wanted to draw Thor fighting the Absorbing Man. I’ve never drawn the Absorbing Man—he was a Jack Kirby character. There are a lot of characters I’d like to draw once; but as far as doing any amount of work with it—most of those characters don’t even exist in the form that I read them when I was really into comics. I might do it for myself, for fun.

NRAMA: In closing, what would be a piece of sagely advice you’d give to young creators who want to achieve success outside of the glut of capes and tights in the marketplace?

MM: It all depends on what your goal is. The business today is so different than the business when I first got my start. Clearly, the whole self-publishing thing is a very viable thing to pursue these days whereas it wasn’t when I was starting out—very few people were doing it back then. My one piece of advice has always been, if I’m an example of anything, is that you take what you really want to do and you do it—then it is possible that it will work out. Thing’s aren’t always going to work out but I tell guys all the time—if you want to take a shot at something else just do one issue of a comic; like I did, you finish your Batman book then you say, “I’m going to do this one Hellboy mini-series and if it works out great and if it doesn’t work out—that’s fine; I took a year to do this thing now I’ll go back to drawing Batman or whatever.” At least you took a shot at it. If I had never tried I would’ve never found out that Hellboy would work. I didn’t think it would work; I didn’t think anyone would buy it but I took a shot and I didn’t try to make up a commercial book. I didn’t try to make up a book I thought would sell—I made up a book made up entirely of things I like. So, in the off chance that it did work and I was stuck doing this thing, then I was stuck doing a book that I love doing.

Hellboy

03-20-2007, 04:24 PM

I love Mikes work. I'm kinda sad that he's not drawing more than covers in the near future. I have yet to really enjoy Hellboy drawn by anyone else, with the exception, oddly enough of John Cassaday.

His style is so unique as is his character, even my favorite artists Frank Miller, Simon Bisley, Arthur Adams, P. Craig Russell, Kevin Knowlan, all drew Hellboy in pin-ups, and the character just didn't work for me visually.

I know this may sound like a complaint, but it's not. It's a compliment to how damn good.. no. Great an artist Mignola is.

It seems like all the great artists step down these days in favor of writing. But I'll be there to give anything he writes a try, hopefully like his former legend partner Frank Miller he has great taste is collaborators.

rwe1138

03-20-2007, 04:26 PM

MM: It started out that way and now it’s starting to look like four books. God knows how many more books it’ll end up being but I know right now that there is a very definite arc—definitely a three book trilogy and there is a fourth book that will be dealing with the fallout of the trilogy. I don’t know what you call something that’s four books. (laugh)

I believe the term is "quadrilogy."

Lambert

03-20-2007, 04:27 PM

Mr. Mignola, i love you.

Charlie Hustle

03-20-2007, 04:30 PM

Guy Davis has to be one of the best artists in comics today.

Lambert

03-20-2007, 04:30 PM

I love Mikes work. I'm kinda sad that he's not drawing more than covers in the near future.
agreed.
i want more black lumpy skeleton armies!

astronato

03-20-2007, 04:44 PM

I'm a recent Mike Mignola convert by way of the movie and the cartoons. I bought Seeds of Destruction trade for my niece for Christmas and she loves it.

I really liked Mikes recent Conan stuff too but......I saw the Amazing Screw On Head on tv and loved it. Bought the recent one shot issue and loved it more. It's like the Wild Wild West meets the Addams Family. Genius!

The world needs more Amazing Screw On Head!!

Elliot Mears

03-20-2007, 04:46 PM

I believe the term is "quadrilogy."

If it's more than three, it's a tetralogy.

SalCipriano

03-20-2007, 04:52 PM

I didn't realize DH was reprinting Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser! I had liked Mignola before this, but that is the book where I fell in love with him! Every time I mention this work no one has a clue what I'm talking about either. I can't wait to pick this up again!

cfutino

03-20-2007, 04:55 PM

I believe the term is "quadrilogy."
I always thought the name was tetralogy.

cookiejar

03-20-2007, 05:02 PM

I cannot wait for this stuff...GZO MIGNOLA!!

kalorama

03-20-2007, 05:08 PM

I always thought the name was tetralogy.

It was until the producers of the Alien series decided to release all four movies in a boxed set and figured that too many of the people in their target audience (A) wouldn't know what tetralogy meant and (B) were too lazy to pick up a dictionary and thus decided to make up the word quadrilogy.

I''m looking forward to seeing the Mignola/Fegredo combination. Fegredo is right near the top of my list of artists whose work doesnm't show up often enough for my tastes.

RedRonin

03-20-2007, 05:20 PM

chasdepp

03-20-2007, 05:23 PM

"a certain 'other trilogy' faired well with a cartoon lead-in to its final movie last year"

Hate to be such the noob, but which trilogy was being obtusely referenced?

hellboy666

03-20-2007, 05:25 PM

Mignola is awesome! I'm really looking forward to all the new Hellboy material. I'm a little disappointed that he's not drawing much, but I've like what I've seen of Fregedo so far. Keep 'em coming!

Boxful

03-20-2007, 05:31 PM

Mignola has always been one of my favorite artists in the business. It's a shame he doesn't do much in the interior art category anymore. The covers are nice but there was nothing better than a Mignola drawn book.

Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser was an amazing and excellent series - a MUST READ for any Mignola fan. I've since picked up the Fritz White Wolf novels which have some stellar MM artwork throughout.

I do hope one day life slows down for Mike and he can get back to drawing pages again.
I'd trade the quantity of HB books for the quality of his own drawn stories any day.

In the meantime, keep pimping Hellboy for all it's worth and I'll pick things up here and there.

DaVeO

03-20-2007, 05:41 PM

rasp1976

03-20-2007, 05:42 PM

As for the "last episode with cartoon lead-in", I'm pretty sure it was Star Wars Episode III with the very enjoyable Clone Wars cartoon.

Anything with more Hellboy and Friends is reason to rejoice.

ALIEN_freak_jimbo

03-20-2007, 06:52 PM

Absolutely no disrespect to the other artists or to Mignola's writing abilities, but that totally sucks he's not going to be doing the art in future Hellboy books! His art is the main reason why I buy the books. :(

That being said, I'll still pick up future Hellboy (and related) books!

And they made a Batman/Hellboy/Starman trade? When?!! I've been wishing for them to collect it, now that I know there's copies out there somewhere...... :)

crazyhorse01

03-20-2007, 07:12 PM

It was until the producers of the Alien series decided to release all four movies in a boxed set and figured that too many of the people in their target audience (A) wouldn't know what tetralogy meant and (B) were too lazy to pick up a dictionary and thus decided to make up the word quadrilogy.

Who says that American ingenuity is dead? :)

Uncle Jawa

03-20-2007, 07:13 PM

Mignola and Hellboy rule, it's as simple as that. And while I definitely love Mignola drawing Hellboy, I can live with other artists working on the character as long as it's talent on the level of folks like Duncan Fregredo and Guy Davis.

So, P. Craig Russell is going to be doing some HELLBOY, as well? Sweet.

ascloseasme

03-20-2007, 07:16 PM

Mignola's art is just absolutely flippin' gorgeous.

One of the best artists out there.

The Spirit

03-20-2007, 08:14 PM

i've met mike before at my lcs and got a conan and hellboy drawing from him. and some autographs on a hellboy and conan comic. he's a nice guy.

Ace_ETP

03-20-2007, 08:56 PM

I'd sell my neighbours soul for the Batman/Starman/Hellboy trade that is impossible to find now.

So glad that Mike is writing more now. As much as I love his art, it's his stories that truly enthrall me.

I bought the individual issues at a flea market some years ago. They were my first Dark Horse comic. I just went looking for them. Was it just two issues long, or am I missing some?

Hellboy

03-20-2007, 09:45 PM

I'd sell my neighbours soul for the Batman/Starman/Hellboy trade that is impossible to find now.

So glad that Mike is writing more now. As much as I love his art, it's his stories that truly enthrall me.
Writing and stories are two very different things in comics. A story is not complete once it leaves a writers hands, no matter how tight the script may be.

Stories are only as good as the artist who brings them to life. Mikes stories are great because he knows exactly how they should be visualized.

The best comics, the ones that work on every level are the ones where the artist is a great storyteller. Mike may be writing, but Ducan will now be shaping them, they will be way he interprets them.

It's going to change the dynamic of them when another artist draws them, could be better or worse. But it will be different.
This will be the first time another artist will be working on the main Hellboy story, instead of just on outside projects that add color to the character and his world.

steven_eks

03-20-2007, 10:22 PM

It's going to change the dynamic of them when another artist draws them, could be better or worse. But it will be different.
This will be the first time another artist will be working on the main Hellboy story, instead of just on outside projects that add color to the character and his world.

You're mostly right--but honestly, Mike sounded happy to not be handling the art chores--he's become very critical of his own product so he tends to border on the obsessive. Duncan Fregedo is really good and his work and style honor Mike's Hellboy. Mike mainly was excited because now, he can tell all the fans the stories he wanted to tell because if he drew them--he'd never get them all out there for us to read.

I think this passage of the torch is the best thing that could happen to the fans of this character and his universe.

THanks for reading guys
Steven Eks

FIG

03-20-2007, 11:12 PM

What happened to the story that was to be drawn by Wildstorms Lee Bermejo?

Jeremy Williams

03-21-2007, 02:20 AM

Mignola is easily in my top 5 all-time favorite artists and good for him if Hellboy is a success on the big screen but there will always have this thing missing, like he wasn't the guy he could have been because he never did that big DC-Marvel mainstream progect that people will talk about for ages. Forget JMS or any other artists Marvel can throw at us and make us believe that "this is great", Mignola on a epic Thor/Norse mythology series would Rule the Earth! And how about Fantastic Four. Mignola is the spiritual son of Kirby and he has to shows us if he can top him for a new generation.

kiddae

03-21-2007, 06:43 AM

I think this passage of the torch is the best thing that could happen to the fans of this character and his universe.

Not this fan! I'm absolutely gutted by this news. I love Mike's writing and want to know what happens to Hellboy, but I don't know if I can bring myself to buy Hellboy stories without his art - I haven't bought any of the spin-offs for this very reason.

Sorry to be such a gloomy gus, I just think he's one of the greatest comic artists of all time. It's a real loss.

EmeraldGuy32

03-21-2007, 09:14 AM

George from Seinfeld is drawing a Hellboy mini? Cool! :p

also, Mike Mignola is really a cool cat. I got a Conan and a Hellboy sketch from him.

Boxful

03-21-2007, 10:20 AM

Not this fan! I'm absolutely gutted by this news. I love Mike's writing and want to know what happens to Hellboy, but I don't know if I can bring myself to buy Hellboy stories without his art - I haven't bought any of the spin-offs for this very reason.

Sorry to be such a gloomy gus, I just think he's one of the greatest comic artists of all time. It's a real loss.

Totally agree with you.

2007: Crappiest year ever for this Hellboy Fan

Sure his writing is tight, but it's always been his art that captured my interest.

Just seems to reinforce to me the fact that the comic book industry can't keep a good artist around. It seems to fall low on the scale of creative possibilities once an artist breaks big. Many of them become creative directors that begin dolling out the gruelling - time consuming work to others while they nit pick from above. It's unfortunate that the gruelling work is what made the artist big.

Mignola has many similarities to McFarlane in terms of stepping back and milking their character for all it's worth. That was obvious when I saw a Hellboy ornament released a few years back. Nothing like hanging the Devil on a Christmas tree. That's funny. Is it a good idea? Who cares! It'll make more $$ and they've already done the coffee cup, coasters, lunch box, fridge magnet, sticker set...

Bah! Now I've pretty much got it all off my chest. Make that two gloomy gus'.

All I need now is for Chris Bachalo and Humberto Ramos to move past the comic book industry and I'm pretty much watching from the sidelines.

Jeremy Holstein

03-21-2007, 11:34 AM

If it's more than three, it's a tetralogy.

Nah, Douglas Adams proved that a trilogy can be comprised of four, five or more books.

Q.E.D.

Jeremy Holstein

03-21-2007, 11:51 AM

Totally agree with you.

2007: Crappiest year ever for this Hellboy Fan

Sure his writing is tight, but it's always been his art that captured my interest.

Jeez, the new book hasn't even hit the stands and the criticism's already started!

As long as Mignola's guiding the ship I'll stick around.

Sure, I'd love for Mike to draw everything he writes, but it's pretty clear he doesn't have the time anymore. If it's choice between Mike's writing the book and no Hellboy at all I'd rather have the Hellboy story continue.

Besides, Duncan's artwork looks pretty good to me. Change isn't always a bad thing.

kalorama

03-21-2007, 11:51 AM

What happened to the story that was to be drawn by Wildstorms Lee Bermejo?

It's being drawn by Duncan Fegredo.

Hellboy

03-21-2007, 04:43 PM

You're mostly right--but honestly, Mike sounded happy to not be handling the art chores--he's become very critical of his own product so he tends to border on the obsessive. Duncan Fregedo is really good and his work and style honor Mike's Hellboy. Mike mainly was excited because now, he can tell all the fans the stories he wanted to tell because if he drew them--he'd never get them all out there for us to read.

I think this passage of the torch is the best thing that could happen to the fans of this character and his universe.

THanks for reading guys
Steven Eks
Duncans work does look intresting. I agree.

And Mike does seem to be relieved at not drawing, at least this particular story.

I completely understand the need to get more books out and keep Hellboy in the public eye at the height of his popularity and also the need to break the association of Mignola to hellboy [visually], in order for the character to grow on it's own.

But hopefully Mike will continue doing more books, because his artwork/story is of value to alot of us readers.

Hellboy

03-21-2007, 04:58 PM

Totally agree with you.

2007: Crappiest year ever for this Hellboy Fan

Sure his writing is tight, but it's always been his art that captured my interest.

Just seems to reinforce to me the fact that the comic book industry can't keep a good artist around. It seems to fall low on the scale of creative possibilities once an artist breaks big. Many of them become creative directors that begin dolling out the gruelling - time consuming work to others while they nit pick from above. It's unfortunate that the gruelling work is what made the artist big.

Mignola has many similarities to McFarlane in terms of stepping back and milking their character for all it's worth. That was obvious when I saw a Hellboy ornament released a few years back. Nothing like hanging the Devil on a Christmas tree. That's funny. Is it a good idea? Who cares! It'll make more $$ and they've already done the coffee cup, coasters, lunch box, fridge magnet, sticker set...

Bah! Now I've pretty much got it all off my chest. Make that two gloomy gus'.

All I need now is for Chris Bachalo and Humberto Ramos to move past the comic book industry and I'm pretty much watching from the sidelines.
It's not Mignolas fault that more great visualists haven't stepped up to fill the void of previous generations. Mike has been around for 2 decades now and popular for over 15 years.

Almost all of the popular artists step away from the monthly grind. In Mike case, the 4 issues every 2 years grind. But most of them do step away,the ones who don't become ridiculed [John Byrne], it's just in the past we've had others step in and fill the void.

The most appealing artists today are those who were popular 10 years ago and more. And those guys barely work [fill in the long list of names] or have completely retired [like Mcfarlane] I can't be the only one who notices it.

All the popular artists that became popular after that Image era can't get people to buy their work outside of Marvel or Dc flagship books. Would people buy Bryan hitches work outside Dc or Marvel, just for the sake of his work, they way they do with the others I mentioned. He doesn't even have that iconic style that a Mignola or Frank Miller or Todd Mcfarlane posess. We all went to the characters they created because of the work they did at first. Could anyone pull that off now?

It's foolish to blame Mignola or Mcfarlane, who created their own characters, for attempting to brand and develop those characters so that they can live on in pop culture, like Spiderman or Batman. That requires them to step into other areas.

I agree, I want more Mignola Hellboy art. But we weren't exactly gettting stuff every year for quite awhile now. Mignola, Mcfarlane, Miller and alot of others...their work is as much a brand as the franchises they create. I think with guys Like Mignola and Mcfarlane, they want to break the association of the characters with the visual style. They want people to come to the characters for the characters and not for the artist.

And they lose alot of old readers in the process.I like that Miller won't let anyone else do Sin City. It's worth the wait. But Mignola is going another route.

firewhale

03-21-2007, 08:02 PM

Mignola has many similarities to McFarlane in terms of stepping back and milking their character for all it's worth. That was obvious when I saw a Hellboy ornament released a few years back. Nothing like hanging the Devil on a Christmas tree. That's funny. Is it a good idea? Who cares! It'll make more $$ and they've already done the coffee cup, coasters, lunch box, fridge magnet, sticker set...

Okay, I try to be patient but you are really showing how clueless you are. There's nothing Christian about the Christmas tree in the first place...it was appropriated from pagan mythology as were many other aspects of modern day Christian dogma in effort to make the religion more appealing to potential converts. Putting a demon on a pagan symbol that most sheep believe is "Christian" is probably what appealed to Mike in the first place.

And secondly, take a step the f*ck back. You sound like you're entitled to whatever Hellboy comic YOU want and that those creators shouldn't be able to do whatever the hell (ha!) they want with their own creations. Personally, I think it's hilarious that there is a Hellboy bobblehead (and if anyone has one they want to sell..let me know) and if marketing the Hellboy universe the way Dark Horse does allows him to make more coin, more power to them. This is a capitalist society...fueled by consumers like me who will buy a Hellboy bobblehead. Where is written that an artist can't maintain his integrity (a fact that I think almost all here will agree Mignola has done) and be commercially successful?

The view I take on this is that, sure, I would love more Hellboy stories drawn by MM...I can't think of any other artist in the industry I like more. But if it's a choice between getting no more HB stories, or stories written by Mike and handled by hand-picked artists, it's a no brainer.

Seriously, grow the f*ck up.

Boxful

03-22-2007, 02:20 PM

Okay, I try to be patient but you are really showing how clueless you are. There's nothing Christian about the Christmas tree in the first place...it was appropriated from pagan mythology as were many other aspects of modern day Christian dogma in effort to make the religion more appealing to potential converts. Putting a demon on a pagan symbol that most sheep believe is "Christian" is probably what appealed to Mike in the first place.

And secondly, take a step the f*ck back. You sound like you're entitled to whatever Hellboy comic YOU want and that those creators shouldn't be able to do whatever the hell (ha!) they want with their own creations. Personally, I think it's hilarious that there is a Hellboy bobblehead (and if anyone has one they want to sell..let me know) and if marketing the Hellboy universe the way Dark Horse does allows him to make more coin, more power to them. This is a capitalist society...fueled by consumers like me who will buy a Hellboy bobblehead. Where is written that an artist can't maintain his integrity (a fact that I think almost all here will agree Mignola has done) and be commercially successful?

The view I take on this is that, sure, I would love more Hellboy stories drawn by MM...I can't think of any other artist in the industry I like more. But if it's a choice between getting no more HB stories, or stories written by Mike and handled by hand-picked artists, it's a no brainer.

Seriously, grow the f*ck up.

Wow, I've riled up a classy one here.

Relax, I only posted my opinion. Not insults. I won't apoligize for that. I'll continue to pick up Hellboy stuff too, just bummed Mike isn't drawing them. Simple as that. He's entitled to do whatever he feels like. I'm extremely happy with the body of work he has produced, have tracked down most of it including the lunchbox and fridge magnet, and can understand him doing something different after 15+ years of the grind.

Take care. And say hello to the devil for me when you're down there.

firewhale

03-22-2007, 03:41 PM

Wow, I've riled up a classy one here.

Relax, I only posted my opinion. Not insults. I won't apoligize for that. I'll continue to pick up Hellboy stuff too, just bummed Mike isn't drawing them. Simple as that. He's entitled to do whatever he feels like. I'm extremely happy with the body of work he has produced, have tracked down most of it including the lunchbox and fridge magnet, and can understand him doing something different after 15+ years of the grind.

Take care. And say hello to the devil for me when you're down there.

I don't think I've ever been accused of being classy. That being said, my points would've been more succinct w/o the swearing. So, forget what I said about taking a step the [expletive deleted] back and growing the [expletive deleted] up. Fair enough?

BUT...

If you had only posted opinions, like the rest of the disappointed fans here, you wouldn't have provoked a response. What you did do is insult the creator you purportedly love by accusing him of milking his character for all it's worth and somehow selling out by marketing a product line for that character (which you now admit you've supported by purchasing the branded products...huh?). And you base one of your insults on the fairy tale idea that Christmas is all about Christianity. I have no problem with people practicing whatever religion they want, but before you get on your Jesus horse, maybe you should do some actual research (as opposed to just doing what the religious right tells you) and figure out what you actually believe in (I suggest The History of God by Karen Armstrong, a former Catholic nun).

Your response above implies that you are merely disappointed, like many of us, that Mike won't be drawing HB anymore. If that's the case, say whatever you want, but realize if, due to that disappointment, you attack the creators you claim to respect, you should be prepared to hear about it from others who disagree.

Peace,
fw

p.s. I'm going out drinking with Satan tomorrow night, he tells the funniest stories about when he and Jesus used to get drunk and mess up Bible translations...anyway, I'll tell him you said hi.

8leggedfreak

03-22-2007, 04:44 PM