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MattBrady
03-16-2007, 12:21 PM
<a href="http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA_07/Marvel/mondo.html"><img src="http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA_07/Marvel/WWH_1_t.jpg" Border="0" align=right></a>While they were scheduled to make their debut later today from Marvel’s <b>Mondo Marvel</b> panel from Los Angele’s Wizardworld convention (starting today) Marvel has given Newsarama runway clearance to share these <b>Word War Hulk #1</b> preview pages as a sort of <b>Mondo Marvel</b> appetizer.
The gods of wireless networking willing, look for Newsarama’s patented <b>Live!</b> coverage of the panel beginning at 2:30 PST/5:30 EST at <b><i>this</i></b> very same URL…
<b>WORLD WAR HULK #1 (of 5) </b>
Written by GREG PAK
Penciled by JOHN ROMITA JR.
Cover by DAVID FINCH
Variant Cover by JOHN ROMITA JR.
Marvel's massive summer smashfest begins! Exiled by a group of Marvel "heroes" to the savage alien planet of Sakaar, the Hulk raged, bled and conquered through the pages of last year's "Planet Hulk" epic, rising from slave to gladiator to king. Now the Hulk returns to Earth to wreak his terrible vengeance on Iron Man, Reed Richards, Dr. Strange and Black Bolt -- and anyone else who gets in his way. Stronger than ever, accompanied by his monstrous Warbound gladiator allies, and possessed by the fiercest and purest rage imaginable, the Hulk may just tear this stupid planet in half. The epic story of anger unbound begins with this special double-sized issue written by "Planet Hulk" scribe Greg Pak and penciled by the legendary John Romita, Jr.
48 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99
Click <a href=http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA_07/Marvel/mondo.html>here</a> for the full story...
Bird Flu Man
03-16-2007, 01:57 PM
I already like it better than Civil War!!
Can't wait to read more!
jlawesome
03-16-2007, 01:57 PM
this looks pretty sweet
skaly
03-16-2007, 01:57 PM
This looks... good. Really good.
ALIEN_freak_jimbo
03-16-2007, 01:58 PM
Holy crap, that looks awesome!
(but is the Hulk really that durable to withstand even a whisper from Black Bolt?)
Can't wait to pick this up!
...You kids realize what World War Hulk is, don't you? It's The Q's way of apologizing and trying to make up for just how fracking lame Civil War was.
If these four pages are any indication, Marvel might just pull that attempt at redemption off...
lordlad
03-16-2007, 02:01 PM
More art from Jrjr.....
mmmmm.................make mine marvel !!
PhoenixFacto
03-16-2007, 02:02 PM
Looks good!
delawarejoel
03-16-2007, 02:02 PM
This cannot get here fast enough. I love everything Greg Pak has done and Romita's pencils here are stunning.
preacher2041
03-16-2007, 02:06 PM
'I wanna hear you scream'....
What a line! This looks so cool, can't wait.
Bane122
03-16-2007, 02:08 PM
This will be the first marvel event I'll have baught in a great while. I can't wait.
ziza9
03-16-2007, 02:08 PM
Just when I thought I was out...they pull me back in. Damn, that was sweet.
KoozyK
03-16-2007, 02:11 PM
JESUS H CHRIST!
AMAZING!! I CANNOT WAIT FOR HULK TO BUST HEADS AND MAKE THEM SCREAM!!!
Roy Batty
03-16-2007, 02:12 PM
Who is the inker on those pages? Or were they scanned from Romita's pencils?
Whatever the answer, they look GREAT! Some of the best Romita Jr. I have seen for quite some time.
aceatkins
03-16-2007, 02:13 PM
Great preview, really looking forward to this. I suspect that the destruction of Planet Hulk will mean all of the supporting cast will buy the farm, but I hope not. I really like Caiera and hope she sticks around. Plus she has a little Hulk in the oven!
DoctorEvil
03-16-2007, 02:13 PM
Rumor has it the series ends with the Hulk just surrendering though......
:)
Awesome! :cool:
Get me some pictures of Hulk beating Tony to a bloody pulp! :D
Cupelix
03-16-2007, 02:14 PM
Now the Hulk returns to Earth to wreak his terrible vengeance on Iron Man, Reed Richards, Dr. Strange and Black Bolt -- and anyone else who gets in his way.Professor X gets a "Get out of jail free card" apparently. I suppose he's still going to be in space during this plot arc. Lucky for him!
clemsonfn
03-16-2007, 02:14 PM
So I'm guessing.....
****spoilers****
That the warp core breach from Hulk #104 ends up setting off a chain reaction that destroys the planet. Those who don't want Hulk there make it look like the Illuminati intentionally were going to make the ship explode to kill the Hulk, but instead they were the ones who set off the explosion (not knowing that it would destroy the planet). Guess his wife and fetushulk are killed as well (which is probably a good thing, if you can follow Larry Niven's logic about a Superman-Lois Lane pregnancy).
KoozyK
03-16-2007, 02:15 PM
do not joke!
SpyGuy
03-16-2007, 02:18 PM
Go, Hulk, GO!!!
Here's what I'm hoping is the primary list of targets:
Black Bolt (Check!)
Wonder Man
Ms. Marvel
Mr. Fantastic
Iron Man
Tom Breevort
Joe Quesada
Bird Flu Man
03-16-2007, 02:18 PM
Professor X gets a "Get out of jail free card" apparently. I suppose he's still going to be in space during this plot arc. Lucky for him!
Really?
http://www.newsarama.com/NYCC/2007/Marvel/WWH_X.jpg
N. Blownapart
03-16-2007, 02:19 PM
I cannot wait. Hulk Smash!
Equinox
03-16-2007, 02:20 PM
YES! YES! YES! YES!!!!
Black Bolt: PWNED. Hella f*ckin' yeah.
dalunt
03-16-2007, 02:22 PM
Professor X gets a "Get out of jail free card" apparently. I suppose he's still going to be in space during this plot arc. Lucky for him!
Well there are only two issues left of the Uncanny arc, so he will be back for WWH, plus the WWH: X-men one shot already said it was Hulk vs Xavier.
Colonsus
03-16-2007, 02:22 PM
Holy Shiite!
Wasn't going to pick this up, but they just sold it with that one Freaking BRILLIANT line!
God, I loves me some Black Bolt...
saiyanspider
03-16-2007, 02:23 PM
While this looks really effin' good, I'm sticking to my guns and not buying any world war Hulk stuff. I don't like the double dealing from Marvel, they said this was a self contained mini, and now they have as many tie-ins as Civil War. If not they soon will be. Wait for the last minute one-shots, and side minis at the last minute, and watch important story details appear in other comics but not the main one. If when this is over, and it looks like everything important is in the main series then I'll get the trade but sorry Marvel your not getting my money. As Joe Q said "i'm voting with my dollar".
durkadurka
03-16-2007, 02:24 PM
Professor X gets a "Get out of jail free card" apparently. I suppose he's still going to be in space during this plot arc. Lucky for him!
No no, remember he was missing when they shot him into space, so he wasn't in the video, nor did he have anything to do with the decision. Also, there's going to be a X-Men:World War Hulk mini, which will apparently have as many X-people as possible. Oh man, he's pissed. Once he realizes they didn't have anything to do with it, Hulk will let go of his death grip on Xavier's head.
The x-men dodged two bullets in a year, first being civil war. Kudos to them.
MerrickM
03-16-2007, 02:26 PM
__________
johnny.blaze
03-16-2007, 02:30 PM
The epic story of anger unbound begins with this special double-sized issue written by "Planet Hulk" scribe Greg Pak and penciled by the legendary John Romita, Jr.
48 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99
Click <a href=http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA_07/Marvel/mondo.html>here</a> for the full story...
Now that's what I'M TALKIN BOUT. More Smash for my dolla! Almost 50 pages of JRJR BEAUTY?!??!?
Poolman
03-16-2007, 02:32 PM
Holy ____!!!
I love Black Bolt, but this looks so good...
That line... future Moment of the Week material!!!
Hellblazer
03-16-2007, 02:32 PM
Bring it on !
Can't wait for this ! :D
theprimedreamer
03-16-2007, 02:33 PM
Yes this does look good. But doesn't anyone think that after the Thor clone in Civil War, that Tony and his friends will just make a Betty clone, or heck out of sheer hubris, re-animate her dead corpse and draw at Hulk's strings?
Somebody
03-16-2007, 02:33 PM
Professor X gets a "Get out of jail free card" apparently. I suppose he's still going to be in space during this plot arc. Lucky for him!
Nope - WWH:X-Men's centred around Hulk's going after Prof X.
roblewmac
03-16-2007, 02:33 PM
1. Looks fun
2. May get it
3. Still trying to wrap my mind around a ship made by Reed Richards and Tony stark with help from magic getting lost
Somebody
03-16-2007, 02:34 PM
1. Looks fun
2. May get it
3. Still trying to wrap my mind around a ship made by Reed Richards and Tony stark with help from magic getting lost
It didn't "get lost" - the Shadow Elders arranged for their wormhole to grab it.
nickmaynard
03-16-2007, 02:40 PM
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chap22
03-16-2007, 02:40 PM
Bring. It. ON.
this is gonna be awesome.
:D :D
chap22
03-16-2007, 02:41 PM
Yes this does look good. But doesn't anyone think that after the Thor clone in Civil War, that Tony and his friends will just make a Betty clone, or heck out of sheer hubris, re-animate her dead corpse and draw at Hulk's strings?
i realize Jones's run probably shouldn't count, but...
Betty's alive.
cap infinity
03-16-2007, 02:42 PM
I haven't read Hulk in a long time. Is he smart now? He seemed pretty smart. He was using "I" instead of "Hulk." Can someone give me the Cliffs Notes version of what's going on with him?
durkadurka
03-16-2007, 02:43 PM
i realize Jones's run probably shouldn't count, but...
Betty's alive.
Screw Betty! Hulk's new chick is 1) bluish gray, 2) has a little hulk in the oven (if she and it wasn't incinerated), and 3) could kick Betty's resurrected ass!! Not even a contest.
anoddity
03-16-2007, 02:43 PM
I haven't read Hulk in a long time. Is he smart now? He seemed pretty smart. He was using "I" instead of "Hulk." Can someone give me the Cliffs Notes version of what's going on with him?
Think Grey Hulk brains/smarts/cunning with Savage Hulk brawn/strength and you aren't far off.
Commonly referred to as the "Gravage Hulk" incarnation by some fans, this Hulk has brains and is extremely intelligent. He recalls all past encounters with heroes in any of his incarnations as well.
For further information, I recommend: www.hulknews.com
P.S. - this looks awesome.
I already like it better than Civil War!!
I have a nagging feeling that WWH will be less enjoyable simply due to its proximity in time to Civil War...I hope I'm wrong, but I think this will be a situation where the Civil War lateness will hit Marvel, in terms of numbers for WWH.
Haven't read Hulk in years, but I like that unlike Civil War this looks like it will be following recent continuity, as opposed to contradicting it like CW.
Doombug
03-16-2007, 02:45 PM
"You shot me into space."
Um, er, did anybody else's mind go where mine did?
We'll send him cheesy movies, the worst we can find!
He'll have to sit and watch them and we'll monitor his mind!
Now keep in mind the Hulk can't control when the movies begin or end
He'll fight to keep his sanity with the help of his alternate personalities!
Hulk roll call!
Joe Fixit!
Professor!
Maestro!
Savage Hulk!
And if you're wondering where the extra mass comes from when he transforms or other science facts
Just say to yourself "It's a comic book! I should just relax. . . "
For Mystery Smashing Theatre 616!
. . . sorry. Really, sorry.
Yeah thanks, remind me that one of my alltime favorite shows is still gone. :(
J.D. Lombardi
03-16-2007, 02:45 PM
This is going to be INSANE. Many thanks to Greg Pak...I've never been into Hulk as much as I am now....and the last time I collected it on a monthly basis was when MacFarlane was doing the art.
Can't wait for this!
SHIM'TAR
03-16-2007, 02:46 PM
The Illuminati are so &#$!ED. I can't wait for this. I've really enjoyed 'PLANET HULK' and can't wait for HULK to dish out the spankings.
adamirer
03-16-2007, 02:50 PM
love it. Still waiting for them to release the last 3-4 years of hardback trades, c'mon marvel, get ass in gear to capitalise on the momentum...
Hulks wife dead, hulks unborn kid dead, Hulk's kingdom pretty much dead, oh yeah - major f******* hacked off. This should be so much fun. While i like the politics stuff, a good smash 'em up just rocks.
guitargod694
03-16-2007, 02:51 PM
Man, this looks awesome. HULK SMASH!
theprimedreamer
03-16-2007, 02:55 PM
Hulks wife dead, hulks unborn kid dead, Hulk's kingdom pretty much dead...
Is it me or does it seem that Hulk could be Marvel's Black Adam. Hell they're both going ape feces on everyone!
BanMan
03-16-2007, 02:56 PM
...You kids realize what World War Hulk is, don't you? It's The Q's way of apologizing and trying to make up for just how fracking lame Civil War was.
If these four pages are any indication, Marvel might just pull that attempt at redemption off...
Yea...too bad we already knew WWH was coming before Civil War even hit the stands. :rolleyes:
Try again.
And I thought JRJr. looked good on Eternals but wow, the colors really help his pencils shine in WWH. I have no doubts about his ability to produce great art on this book now.
ouroboros
03-16-2007, 02:56 PM
Oh dear god. KILL ALL PUNY HUMANS
http://www.orangeandwhitevideo.com/images/1.jpeg
It's that time of the year again. Spot the ball!!!! ...Hey, would you do me a favor and go make just one post on the PG Boobs thread? :D :D
Yea...too bad all of the readers already knew WWH was coming before Civil War even hit the stands. :rolleyes:
Try again....Oh, we may have known it was coming, but based on how CW was turning out, there was no guarantee that it wouldn't be as bad as CW did, in fact, turn out. These are just four panels, but if they're really any indication of what to expect, this *will* put CW more to shame than CW did to itself.
Ball's in your court now, kid. Your turn.
[We really need a middle finger "smiley", Matty...]
Korvac
03-16-2007, 02:57 PM
I sure hope Black Bolt doesn't bite it ... but it doesn't look promising.
CaptainCanad
03-16-2007, 02:58 PM
I don't like the double dealing from Marvel, they said this was a self contained mini, and now they have as many tie-ins as Civil War.
They never said it was completely self-contained, just that it was much smaller than Civil War, with few tie-ins; and that's true.
subhuman
03-16-2007, 02:59 PM
This looks pretty sweet, but I still feel a little burned from Civil War and its many tie-ins that didn't really go anywhere (The Return, X-Men, etc.), so I think that I'll wait for this stuff to come out in trade...already have Annihilation: Conquest eating up my money this summer. Still waiting for Planet Hulk to be released s a hardcover so I can have a better idea of what's going down. Cuddos to Pak though, his writing is usually pretty good (with the exception of House of M: Iron Man), this could actually be pretty good!
anghus
03-16-2007, 02:59 PM
i ____ing LOATHED civil war.
but this...
this i could totally get into. Civil War might have been worth it just to turn Tony, Reed, Xavier, and those guys into dicks just to let Hulk beat the ____ out of these dicks.
roblewmac
03-16-2007, 02:59 PM
Screw Betty! Hulk's new chick is 1) bluish gray, 2) has a little hulk in the oven (if she and it wasn't incinerated), and 3) could kick Betty's resurrected ass!! Not even a contest.
uh Hulk can get you pregant? Oh dear that's a plot i'd rather not mess with.
BanMan
03-16-2007, 03:03 PM
...Oh, we may have known it was coming, but based on how CW was turning out, there was no guarantee that it wouldn't be as bad as CW did, in fact, turn out. These are just four panels, but if they're really any indication of what to expect, this *will* put CW more to shame than CW did to itself.
Ball's in your court now, kid. Your turn.
What? I don't get what you're trying to say.
Are you suggesting that Joe Q would risk losing fans by putting out intentionally bad work? I'm sure Joe hardly thinks CW turned out badly. In fact he's banking the next few years on how CW ended.
zeraze1
03-16-2007, 03:04 PM
...You kids realize what World War Hulk is, don't you? It's The Q's way of apologizing and trying to make up for just how fracking lame Civil War was.
World War Hulk would have occurred no matter what fans thought of Civil War. So, WWH is this year's event not an apology, which Joe Q likely feels is unnecessary.
zeraze
nobleman
03-16-2007, 03:07 PM
Not sure why Black Bolt would whisper instead of just killing the Hulk. I'll definitely get this for the artwork (love me some JRjr), but the writing doesn't look that great.
Palm Trees
03-16-2007, 03:08 PM
I know its World War Hulk, but is anyone even going to die at the Hulk's hands?
There are plenty of creators that suuport the point that Hulk never killed anyone in his decades of rampages. And Hulk is still a 'hero', so will anyone, a named character, or even a bystander, bite it? Sure, aliens have died during Planet Hulk, but will they kill humans? Will they kill American civillians? I kind of doubt it.
Given the way Civil War was, as Ares put it, 'a slapfight' I have no confidence in this event to deliver anything but a few more standard Hulk vs ___ fights. I'll be reading this in the store or via torrents and if it's good I may pick up the trade.
BanMan
03-16-2007, 03:09 PM
Not sure why Black Bolt would whisper instead of just killing the Hulk. I'll definitely get this for the artwork (love me JRjr), but the writing doesn't look that great.
Because if he shouted loud enough to kill the Hulk he could destroy a large portion of the moon? :confused: :)
Eddie Young
03-16-2007, 03:09 PM
Really?
http://www.newsarama.com/NYCC/2007/Marvel/WWH_X.jpg
Thats Lex Luthor.
Word is that the Hulk is going to DC to make up for all big 3 being late.
zeraze1
03-16-2007, 03:10 PM
While this looks really effin' good, I'm sticking to my guns and not buying any world war Hulk stuff. I don't like the double dealing from Marvel, they said this was a self contained mini, and now they have as many tie-ins as Civil War.
You don't have to buy all the tie-ins. You can pick those that interest you or just stick with the mini-series. Nobody forces you to buy anything.
During Civil War, the only tie-ins I bought were Frontline and Runaways/Young Avengers (I do love Runaways). Otherwise, I stuck with my usual pull list.
zeraze
khuxford
03-16-2007, 03:10 PM
Not to have to say something negative here...but I'm starting to get really irritated by Marvel making JR Jr's covers ON BOOKS HE DOES THE INTERIOR FOR the EFFIN' VARIANT COVER. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Bird Flu Man
03-16-2007, 03:12 PM
I know its World War Hulk, but is anyone even going to die at the Hulk's hands?
There are plenty of creators that suuport the point that Hulk never killed anyone in his decades of rampages. And Hulk is still a 'hero', so will anyone, a named character, or even a bystander, bite it? Sure, aliens have died during Planet Hulk, but will they kill humans? Will they kill American civillians? I kind of doubt it.
Hulk may not kill human civilians, but I don't think Miek and his Brood booty-call would hesitate before gutting a few innocent bystanders.
Mundungus
03-16-2007, 03:12 PM
Not sure why Black Bolt would whisper instead of just killing the Hulk. I'll definitely get this for the artwork (love me some JRjr), but the writing doesn't look that great.
I'm going to assume that if Black Bolt did kill the Hulk, there wouldn't be a second issue, let alone most of #1.
durkadurka
03-16-2007, 03:13 PM
I sure hope Black Bolt doesn't bite it ... but it doesn't look promising.
Pssshh, he'll be fine. He still has to declare war on the U.S. and beat Quicksilver's traitorous ass into oblivion. This is just a...speed bump. A big-honkin'-pissed-off-Hulk speed bump. With smashing.
CoolJerk
03-16-2007, 03:14 PM
While they were scheduled to make their debut later today from Marvel’s <b>Mondo Marvel</b> panel from Los Angele’s Wizardworld convention (starting today) Marvel has given Newsarama runway clearance to share these <b>Word War Hulk #1</b> preview pages as a sort of <b>Mondo Marvel</b> appetizer.
"Word War Hulk?" I get it! Because Black Bolt whispered one word, right?
A war of the words, indeed.
Kolimar
03-16-2007, 03:14 PM
JESUS H CHRIST!
AMAZING!! I CANNOT WAIT FOR HULK TO BUST HEADS AND MAKE THEM SCREAM!!!
I wholeheartedly agree. :D
dlfurman
03-16-2007, 03:15 PM
Rumor has it the series ends with the Hulk just surrendering though......
:)
You truly are your handle!!!!
(Caught me mid-swallow of my sandwich and I nearly choked to death!)
Good one!
Oh yeah, this World War Hulk looks really, really good!
(Despite the fact that at one time I really didnt think Marvel was going to really have the Hulk take out any major players and then this week happened with Captain America so.....)
Kolimar
03-16-2007, 03:16 PM
Awesome! :cool:
Get me some pictures of Hulk beating Tony to a bloody pulp! :D
Heheheh :D Seconded. :D
cyberv
03-16-2007, 03:17 PM
Oh geez. Black Bolt's gonna be an ink stain.
If the Hulk was coming at me, cheesed off, I don't care how powerful I was, the only question would be how fast to surrender.
nobleman
03-16-2007, 03:20 PM
I'm going to assume that if Black Bolt did kill the Hulk, there wouldn't be a second issue, let alone most of #1.
Kind of my point. A good writer would have come up with a kick ass fight scene that made Black Bolt have to limit his abilities and have the Hulk come out on top...not for the Hulk to scream "is that all you've got?" Showing the Hulk's cunningness to place Black Bolt somewhere where he couldn't let loose would make for a better read.
This scene ain't it, but it looks great artwise :) .
Mjolnir
03-16-2007, 03:20 PM
So how exactly is the Hulk supposed to stay on the surface and not end up floating in deep space when BB sneezes at him? He can't fly. He is big and strong but I dont see him being a threat to the world in any way unless it is his armada that comes with him.
Anyone telekenetic could fling him off the planet. The Sentry could just fly him off the planet. You could ask Sersei to turn him into a piglet and fry him up for breakfast. There are just too many ways to deal with someone whos only means of attack is punching you.
The last time someone tried the earth take over it was Cable, who would be a lot more dangerous. They called in the Silver Surfer to take him out. The could do something exactly the same with the Eternals, or even Radioactive Man could suck the gamma right out of him. I'm hoping it has a lot to do with his army that makes him a threat. If not, its a lot of disbelief to suspend. Worth it to me of course if I get to see the Thunderbolts(some of them) ripped in half. :)
victor lanza
03-16-2007, 03:21 PM
Four pages are already better than seven issues of Civil War.
JRJR is the Marvel artist.
clemsonfn
03-16-2007, 03:21 PM
I know its World War Hulk, but is anyone even going to die at the Hulk's hands?
There are plenty of creators that suuport the point that Hulk never killed anyone in his decades of rampages. And Hulk is still a 'hero', so will anyone, a named character, or even a bystander, bite it? Sure, aliens have died during Planet Hulk, but will they kill humans? Will they kill American civillians? I kind of doubt it.
Goes back to whether you believe that the Hulk has ever killed an innocent person as the result of collateral damage from a battle. I choose to believe that he hasn't (despite Marvel arguing otherwise), nor have the FF, the Avengers, Spider-Man, etc. Realistic? Not really, but no more unrealistic than a world populated with superheros.
zeraze1
03-16-2007, 03:24 PM
The Illuminati are so &#$!ED. I can't wait for this. I've really enjoyed 'PLANET HULK' and can't wait for HULK to dish out the spankings.
Yeah, the Illuminate feel like idiots for not listening to Black Panther and not forming the group.
I can see T'Challa's commentary now: "I tried to warn you guys, but Nooooo! Well, it's time to reap the gamma-powered whirlwind."
zeraze
bigdaddyhub
03-16-2007, 03:26 PM
I am SUPERPUMPED about this series. JRJR and Pak are gonna rock this mutha out!
I have never liked hulk at all, but the Pak run has been really entertaining. It is definitely patterned after the Spaghetti Western model with the antihero coming to town and just flat out kicking butt. I love it! I can't wait for a real throwdown instead of the CW crapfights.
durkadurka
03-16-2007, 03:28 PM
So how exactly is the Hulk supposed to stay on the surface and not end up floating in deep space when BB sneezes at him? He can't fly. He is big and strong but I dont see him being a threat to the world in any way unless it is his armada that comes with him.
Anyone telekenetic could fling him off the planet. The Sentry could just fly him off the planet. You could ask Sersei to turn him into a piglet and fry him up for breakfast. There are just too many ways to deal with someone whos only means of attack is punching you.
The last time someone tried the earth take over it was Cable, who would be a lot more dangerous. They called in the Silver Surfer to take him out. The could do something exactly the same with the Eternals, or even Radioactive Man could suck the gamma right out of him. I'm hoping it has a lot to do with his army that makes him a threat. If not, its a lot of disbelief to suspend. Worth it to me of course if I get to see the Thunderbolts(some of them) ripped in half. :)
Only means of attack is punching you?? Good sir, the Hulk can do more than a simple punch. He SMASHES!! That covers everything from punching to destroying to throwing things to causing earthquakes, etc. Plus, he can take a serious beating and i'm pretty sure he can kill a really big man with his toes.
seethruhero
03-16-2007, 03:34 PM
YES.
YES!
Now make every single page and issue just like that. THANK YOU.
anoddity
03-16-2007, 03:35 PM
So how exactly is the Hulk supposed to stay on the surface and not end up floating in deep space when BB sneezes at him? He can't fly. He is big and strong but I dont see him being a threat to the world in any way unless it is his armada that comes with him.
Hulk has always been a threat to the world, he's just never had a reason to exact his vengence on humans and their heroes before. And Hulks armada did come with him.
Anyone telekenetic could fling him off the planet. The Sentry could just fly him off the planet. You could ask Sersei to turn him into a piglet and fry him up for breakfast. There are just too many ways to deal with someone whos only means of attack is punching you.
Too true, but they've never succeeded in doing any of that have they? It's easy to fly someone offworld when they aren't fighting back, but what happens why they do? Especially when their punch could knock you a few miles.
The last time someone tried the earth take over it was Cable, who would be a lot more dangerous. They called in the Silver Surfer to take him out. The could do something exactly the same with the Eternals, or even Radioactive Man could suck the gamma right out of him. I'm hoping it has a lot to do with his army that makes him a threat. If not, its a lot of disbelief to suspend. Worth it to me of course if I get to see the Thunderbolts(some of them) ripped in half. :)
Obviously you are not aware of how dangerous the Hulk is. Hulk is at the very least as dangerous as Cable and I would argue he's even more dangerous when provoked.
People have tried to "suck" the radiation out of Hulk before, but unless he wants it to happen, he usually fights through it. He has too much power for people to absorb when he fights against it.
mauer
03-16-2007, 03:36 PM
I LOVE seeing Black Bolt being able to let loose... Black Bolt Rocks!
Darth Tigris
03-16-2007, 03:38 PM
Ok, I read Planet Hulk and enjoyed it very much, but, as it seems that unanimously everyone here is on the Hulk's side to come and completely cripple earth's superheroes, I have a huge, HUGE problem with the way this has all played out:
The reason the Illuminati sent Hulk off into space was because his rampaging on Earth was putting too many innocents in mortal danger and he was giving the other heroes a bad name (and boosting the possibility of the SHRA happening). But ever since he arrived on Planet Hulk (sorry, don't know the planet's true name), he's been controlled, heroic and a fantastic leader.
My question is where was this Hulk at all of this time?????
If he was like this on Earth, he would never be in this situation. So now he's going to come back to Earth and do what? Will he return back to his rampaging ways or is this new, improved Hulk here to stay. If he is here to stay, the Illuminati did him a favor. And he should thank them.
IronWolf
03-16-2007, 03:38 PM
Holy Mother of god that looks good!!!
mauer
03-16-2007, 03:40 PM
Could anyone tell what the world he whispered was?
SpyGuy
03-16-2007, 03:48 PM
Could anyone tell what the word he whispered was?
I think it's "Enough."
BanMan
03-16-2007, 03:51 PM
I think it's "Enough."
I thought it was "Nutsack." :)
Rockstars721
03-16-2007, 03:54 PM
woah. yes please.
Maurice M
03-16-2007, 03:55 PM
Yes this does look good. But doesn't anyone think that after the Thor clone in Civil War, that Tony and his friends will just make a Betty clone, or heck out of sheer hubris, re-animate her dead corpse and draw at Hulk's strings?Unfortunately there already is a Betty clone running around. Disgusting story that was. So glad when Hulk went off into space after all that Betty clone crap that came before it.
Hellblazer
03-16-2007, 03:58 PM
I think it's "Enough."
No, it was " No Mas " ! ;)
olympichero
03-16-2007, 04:00 PM
This is BAAAAADDDD ASS!
mattharvest
03-16-2007, 04:01 PM
See, immediately these four pages show why I think the entire concept of WWH is foolhardy at best: the Hulk, just like the Sentry, is depicted as being beatable only when he wants to be.
It is patently absurd - and a violation of continuity regarding Black Bolt's power level - that the Hulk can take a hit like that from him and get back up like that. Black Bolt's screams can TEAR SPACE. Let's think about that: if Black Bolt wants to, he can END EXISTENCE.
Now, I'll grant you, they've depicted the Hulk being absurd in the past - e.g. holding a multi-billion ton mountain over his head in Secret War - such that the Hulk's power is just a joke anyway. But that makes this whole story stupid.
Hell, any one or two clever remaining mega-powers could destroy Hulk permanently. Cloak can send him to the Darkforce Dimension. Strange can send him anywhere, e.g. a blackhole. Richards and Stark both have working teleport technology. Any telekinetic, or Sue Storm (who really should be regarded as a mega-powerful TK) could simply keep his brain in a constant vaporized state, as could any electrokinetic like Storm. Black Bolt...sigh...
This whole series is just going to piss everyone off even more. Even if - and this is an awful hypothetical - the fans who want WWH to end SHRA, it will be awful because the Hulk is going to have to lose or surrender before doing much damage to the world. He's not going to kill any of the Illuminati (though Xavier...they did kill him in the movie...sort of...). It's just going to be a massive anticlimax.
Mjolnir
03-16-2007, 04:02 PM
Hulk has always been a threat to the world, he's just never had a reason to exact his vengence on humans and their heroes before. And Hulks armada did come with him.
Too true, but they've never succeeded in doing any of that have they? It's easy to fly someone offworld when they aren't fighting back, but what happens why they do? Especially when their punch could knock you a few miles.
Obviously you are not aware of how dangerous the Hulk is. Hulk is at the very least as dangerous as Cable and I would argue he's even more dangerous when provoked.
People have tried to "suck" the radiation out of Hulk before, but unless he wants it to happen, he usually fights through it. He has too much power for people to absorb when he fights against it.
Hey I dont want to buzz kill the whole thing with logic, it is comics after all but...
Actually it took Silver Surfer about 10 seconds to defeat him. He removed the gamma from Hulk and used it to break Galactus' barrier. Then he flew back inside the barrier to to save Gamma-less Bruce from splatting. Thte way they have shown teh Radioactive Man lately with complete analysis and control over the entire energy spectrum, would dump the Hulk in a heartbeat. He recently did it to Hyperion exposing his one energy weakness.
Dr. Strange has shown capable of taking out the Hulk whenever he wants. He simply teleorted him away to another dimension the last time Hulk was really threatening NY.
He has been taken down on his by SHIELD boatloads of times and now they are tougher than ever.
The Sentry's bad part, the Void, cracked Hulk apart until he whimpered. The Hulk has no Super Speed, the Sentry could fly him to the Sun before he could blink, and certainly wouldnt have a problem eating a punch or 2.
Just this week the X-men Newb, Hellion threw someone 27 miles with a blink. He could take someone out of the atmosphere pretty easy, especially with help. You don't think Beta Ray Bill could whip up a tornado big enough to whisk a 1,200 lb Hulk right out of the atmosphere? Not to mention frying him with mega bolts like the one Thor KO'ed the Hulk with in one shot?
A ultra-powerful telepath, telekinetic like Cable was so much more dangerous than a big strong guy with no flight, energy projection or speed, it isnt even worth discussion.
Any of the Eternals, the Molecule Man, etc, etc could turn him into a puddle if they wanted too.
Again I hope it is his army that makes him a threat and it is well written and creative. Its just that the stories that actually attack the entire Earth usually painfully ignore how much the planet could truly bring to bear if it needed to.
OK, I'm done with logic, I'll just try to enjoy all the big "Ka-Booms!" when it comes out. :)
soulsonic
03-16-2007, 04:06 PM
Could anyone tell what the world he whispered was?
"Backdafuggup."
Zabardast
03-16-2007, 04:14 PM
damn right doggy
this is really f*cking awesome
anoddity
03-16-2007, 04:20 PM
Ok, I read Planet Hulk and enjoyed it very much, but, as it seems that unanimously everyone here is on the Hulk's side to come and completely cripple earth's superheroes, I have a huge, HUGE problem with the way this has all played out:
The reason the Illuminati sent Hulk off into space was because his rampaging on Earth was putting too many innocents in mortal danger and he was giving the other heroes a bad name (and boosting the possibility of the SHRA happening). But ever since he arrived on Planet Hulk (sorry, don't know the planet's true name), he's been controlled, heroic and a fantastic leader.
The one thing you need to be aware of with the Hulk is that he never wanted to be "hero". He still did not want to be a hero at the beginning of the book. If you look again at Planet Hulk you'll see he says as much in the mini. He did not trust himself to be a leader and hero to people. Hulk/Banner have viewed themselves as monsters (hence why he's always wanted to be left alone) and it's only as the PH mini has progressed that he's slowly realised he can be a hero.
As for the Illuminati reasoning for sending him off into space. It's wrong. Hulk has only ever gone on "rampages" when provoked or when used by others (the Vegas incident was caused by Hulk absorbing the energy from a dirty bomb). He does not "rampage" just cause he feals like it. The really had no heroic justification for their actions because they knew he does not rampage on his own and there is always a reason for his actions. They used it as an excuse to get him off planet for when the SHRA came into affect because he was a dangerous wildcard that would tip the odds in Cap's favour.
My question is where was this Hulk at all of this time?????
Answered above. Hulk's grown from PH.
If he was like this on Earth, he would never be in this situation. So now he's going to come back to Earth and do what? Will he return back to his rampaging ways or is this new, improved Hulk here to stay. If he is here to stay, the Illuminati did him a favor. And he should thank them.
Hulk was exiled. Sure he grew from the experience, but why should he thank them for the pain and hurt it caused him.
For example: Would you thank someone who you helped change a flat, then tricked you, imprisoned you, stole your car, and then deported you? I think not.
Who gave the Illuminati the right to be judge the Hulk? Especially when they know his rampages are not caused on a whim.
roblewmac
03-16-2007, 04:25 PM
It didn't "get lost" - the Shadow Elders arranged for their wormhole to grab it.
Oh so are you telling me Reed forgot the standard "Shadow Elder wormhole compensater?":D i'm in on this
Toneloak
03-16-2007, 04:25 PM
This is going to Rock Hard! HELL YEA!!
Personally, I think while they're fighting Black Bolt will have his first conversation(since inhaling the mist) explaining his actions to Hulk, then SMASHED!!!:D
I think anybody with lingering questions on Hulk's current status pick up Fantastic Four 533 - 535 then The Incredible Hulk 88(good book) - 103(current) That number includes all intro stories to Planet Hulk. A lot of that is in trade, so have fun.:D
FilterKing
03-16-2007, 04:29 PM
Hey I dont want to buzz kill the whole thing with logic, it is comics after all but...
Actually it took Silver Surfer about 10 seconds to defeat him. He removed the gamma from Hulk and used it to break Galactus' barrier. Then he flew back inside the barrier to to save Gamma-less Bruce from splatting. Thte way they have shown teh Radioactive Man lately with complete analysis and control over the entire energy spectrum, would dump the Hulk in a heartbeat. He recently did it to Hyperion exposing his one energy weakness.
Dr. Strange has shown capable of taking out the Hulk whenever he wants. He simply teleorted him away to another dimension the last time Hulk was really threatening NY.
He has been taken down on his by SHIELD boatloads of times and now they are tougher than ever.
The Sentry's bad part, the Void, cracked Hulk apart until he whimpered. The Hulk has no Super Speed, the Sentry could fly him to the Sun before he could blink, and certainly wouldnt have a problem eating a punch or 2.
Just this week the X-men Newb, Hellion threw someone 27 miles with a blink. He could take someone out of the atmosphere pretty easy, especially with help. You don't think Beta Ray Bill could whip up a tornado big enough to whisk a 1,200 lb Hulk right out of the atmosphere? Not to mention frying him with mega bolts like the one Thor KO'ed the Hulk with in one shot?
A ultra-powerful telepath, telekinetic like Cable was so much more dangerous than a big strong guy with no flight, energy projection or speed, it isnt even worth discussion.
Any of the Eternals, the Molecule Man, etc, etc could turn him into a puddle if they wanted too.
Again I hope it is his army that makes him a threat and it is well written and creative. Its just that the stories that actually attack the entire Earth usually painfully ignore how much the planet could truly bring to bear if it needed to.
OK, I'm done with logic, I'll just try to enjoy all the big "Ka-Booms!" when it comes out. :)
...Killjoy.
anoddity
03-16-2007, 04:30 PM
Hey I dont want to buzz kill the whole thing with logic, it is comics after all but...
Actually it took Silver Surfer about 10 seconds to defeat him. He removed the gamma from Hulk and used it to break Galactus' barrier. Then he flew back inside the barrier to to save Gamma-less Bruce from splatting. Thte way they have shown teh Radioactive Man lately with complete analysis and control over the entire energy spectrum, would dump the Hulk in a heartbeat. He recently did it to Hyperion exposing his one energy weakness.
Dr. Strange has shown capable of taking out the Hulk whenever he wants. He simply teleorted him away to another dimension the last time Hulk was really threatening NY.
He has been taken down on his by SHIELD boatloads of times and now they are tougher than ever.
The Sentry's bad part, the Void, cracked Hulk apart until he whimpered. The Hulk has no Super Speed, the Sentry could fly him to the Sun before he could blink, and certainly wouldnt have a problem eating a punch or 2.
Just this week the X-men Newb, Hellion threw someone 27 miles with a blink. He could take someone out of the atmosphere pretty easy, especially with help. You don't think Beta Ray Bill could whip up a tornado big enough to whisk a 1,200 lb Hulk right out of the atmosphere? Not to mention frying him with mega bolts like the one Thor KO'ed the Hulk with in one shot?
A ultra-powerful telepath, telekinetic like Cable was so much more dangerous than a big strong guy with no flight, energy projection or speed, it isnt even worth discussion.
Any of the Eternals, the Molecule Man, etc, etc could turn him into a puddle if they wanted too.
Again I hope it is his army that makes him a threat and it is well written and creative. Its just that the stories that actually attack the entire Earth usually painfully ignore how much the planet could truly bring to bear if it needed to.
OK, I'm done with logic, I'll just try to enjoy all the big "Ka-Booms!" when it comes out. :)
Logically Hulk rules.
He's no original grunt superstrong being. If that were the case he'd be no different than Strong Guy or Colossus. ;)
When Stan Lee and others have stated that Hulk and Thor were intended to be the most powerful beings on Earth, I believe him.
JJMadera
03-16-2007, 04:34 PM
LOL! AWESOME!
roblewmac
03-16-2007, 04:43 PM
I know its World War Hulk, but is anyone even going to die at the Hulk's hands?
There are plenty of creators that suuport the point that Hulk never killed anyone in his decades of rampages. And Hulk is still a 'hero', so will anyone, a named character, or even a bystander, bite it? Sure, aliens have died during Planet Hulk, but will they kill humans? Will they kill American civillians? I kind of doubt it.
Given the way Civil War was, as Ares put it, 'a slapfight' I have no confidence in this event to deliver anything but a few more standard Hulk vs ___ fights. I'll be reading this in the store or via torrents and if it's good I may pick up the trade.
Totally guessing but i'm thinking Black Bolt might die. It would be very dramatic to see Hulk killl sombody that has NEVER lost. Also I look at the rest of the Iilmanati and they are a pretty safe group (except MAYBE prof X
Da_Black_Goku
03-16-2007, 04:57 PM
Well there are only two issues left of the Uncanny arc, so he will be back for WWH, plus the WWH: X-men one shot already said it was Hulk vs Xavier.Jesus. I can't wait.
Redmond
03-16-2007, 05:00 PM
So how exactly is the Hulk supposed to stay on the surface and not end up floating in deep space when BB sneezes at him? He can't fly. He is big and strong but I dont see him being a threat to the world in any way unless it is his armada that comes with him.
Anyone telekenetic could fling him off the planet. The Sentry could just fly him off the planet. You could ask Sersei to turn him into a piglet and fry him up for breakfast. There are just too many ways to deal with someone whos only means of attack is punching you.
The last time someone tried the earth take over it was Cable, who would be a lot more dangerous. They called in the Silver Surfer to take him out. The could do something exactly the same with the Eternals, or even Radioactive Man could suck the gamma right out of him. I'm hoping it has a lot to do with his army that makes him a threat. If not, its a lot of disbelief to suspend. Worth it to me of course if I get to see the Thunderbolts(some of them) ripped in half. :)
Except that all that stuff makes sense. Comics are more complicated to read and more intelligent now. Just don't ask questions or dig to deep.
TravisWHoward
03-16-2007, 05:01 PM
Wouldn't it be great if Hulk breaks Black Bolt's jaw, effectively eliminating any advantage BB would have?
Then he goes on to cripple Professor X again, who's demoralized further when his students say he deserved it, after all the stuff he's done in the past.
Reed Richards gets cured of his power when Bruce/Hulk works with Amadeus Cho using the powers of the "portal". He goes off to fix things with Sue, who's even MORE distrustful of him after the Illuminati thing comes to life.
Stark finds himself stalemated when his secret cabal is exposed. No one in the world trusts him in control of all the powers. A true world war ramps up. Any remaining heroes on Stark's side won't trust him as a result. The draft begins in earnest :)
Still don't know what to make of Strange and Namor at the moment. Strange is the one wild card in all of this. Maybe he'll feel regret, maybe he'll be preoccupied fighting Namor and the Hulk.
Sentry's calming effect won't matter anymore, and even so, I think when Hulk starts ranting about the Illuminati, he'll be taken aback giving the Hulk an opening. Sentry'll isolate Hulk and go off to see if it's true with Stark. He'll end up joining Hulk as a result.
Thor will probably be the final guest appearance since the hidden part of the cover hasn't been shown yet. He was originally slated to return during Planet Hulk, but it'll probably happen then.
SS will be too busy with Annihilation and after his appearance in Planet Hulk, he won't side against Hulk even if he did return in time.
No idea about the New X-Men, and frankly I don't care. I'm glad mutants don't seem to be driving Marvel's direction/events anymore. I was tired of the endless X-Villian causes problems for everyone in the Marvel U plot. After so many, you'd think someone would crack down on them (thanks Decimation!! :P)
Ultimately, I think he's aiming to carve out a piece of the planet for him and his own to live out peacefully. He's just out for the Illuminati and won't mindlessly smash things, going against expectations. He'll take them down strategically, morally defeating them, as well as in the PR arena. In the end, more of the public will come to respect his position, even if they're terrified of him, and realize he has noble intentions and was did wrong by the Illuminati. (Frontline)
Stark'll send out the entire superhuman army and Hulk'll beat 'em all. SHRA will look as if it failed which may cause some to reconsider how effective SHRA really is.
Yadda yadda yadda..
I'm looking forward to this event as if you couldn't tell :D
TravisWHoward
03-16-2007, 05:03 PM
Also, as far as BB/Sentry tossing him into space..
Hulk has allies and warships this time around. He can survive re-entry on his own, unscathed as we saw in the last issue.
All it'd take would be for one of the warships to tractor beam him towards the planet or something along those lines.
munsung02
03-16-2007, 05:13 PM
Holy crap, that looks awesome!
(but is the Hulk really that durable to withstand even a whisper from Black Bolt?)
Can't wait to pick this up!
The madder the hulk gets, the stronger he gets, and he's probably pretty damn pissed right now.
Toneloak
03-16-2007, 05:14 PM
Wouldn't it be great if Hulk breaks Black Bolt's jaw, effectively eliminating any advantage BB would have?
Then he goes on to cripple Professor X again, who's demoralized further when his students say he deserved it, after all the stuff he's done in the past.
Reed Richards gets cured of his power when Bruce/Hulk works with Amadeus Cho using the powers of the "portal". He goes off to fix things with Sue, who's even MORE distrustful of him after the Illuminati thing comes to life.
Stark finds himself stalemated when his secret cabal is exposed. No one in the world trusts him in control of all the powers. A true world war ramps up. Any remaining heroes on Stark's side won't trust him as a result. The draft begins in earnest :)
Still don't know what to make of Strange and Namor at the moment. Strange is the one wild card in all of this. Maybe he'll feel regret, maybe he'll be preoccupied fighting Namor and the Hulk.
Sentry's calming effect won't matter anymore, and even so, I think when Hulk starts ranting about the Illuminati, he'll be taken aback giving the Hulk an opening. Sentry'll isolate Hulk and go off to see if it's true with Stark. He'll end up joining Hulk as a result.
Thor will probably be the final guest appearance since the hidden part of the cover hasn't been shown yet. He was originally slated to return during Planet Hulk, but it'll probably happen then.
SS will be too busy with Annihilation and after his appearance in Planet Hulk, he won't side against Hulk even if he did return in time.
No idea about the New X-Men, and frankly I don't care. I'm glad mutants don't seem to be driving Marvel's direction/events anymore. I was tired of the endless X-Villian causes problems for everyone in the Marvel U plot. After so many, you'd think someone would crack down on them (thanks Decimation!! :P)
Ultimately, I think he's aiming to carve out a piece of the planet for him and his own to live out peacefully. He's just out for the Illuminati and won't mindlessly smash things, going against expectations. He'll take them down strategically, morally defeating them, as well as in the PR arena. In the end, more of the public will come to respect his position, even if they're terrified of him, and realize he has noble intentions and was did wrong by the Illuminati. (Frontline)
Stark'll send out the entire superhuman army and Hulk'll beat 'em all. SHRA will look as if it failed which may cause some to reconsider how effective SHRA really is.
Yadda yadda yadda..
I'm looking forward to this event as if you couldn't tell :D
I believe much of that and a lot more is going to be apart of the story.
And, I can't wait!:mad:
TONE SMASH!
Ravengregory
03-16-2007, 05:22 PM
KILL
THEM
ALL!!!!!
Ravengregory
03-16-2007, 05:22 PM
P.S.
Can anyone say Maestro:)
nokahoma
03-16-2007, 05:29 PM
Dr. Strange is one of the few people to ever really be Hulk's friend. It made no sense that he would assist in blasting him into space. Just another example of how Bendis doesn't get the character at all.
Dr. Strange has shown capable of taking out the Hulk whenever he wants. He simply teleorted him away to another dimension the last time Hulk was really threatening NY.
Why can't Hulk just smash through a wall while Dr. Strange is sitting on the toilet? Just about everyone has a scenario where they can be beaten.
(Hulk squishing Strange's head like a grape as he sleeps would also be an acceptable answer)
PaxHouse
03-16-2007, 05:49 PM
Hulk Vs. Black Bolt.....!!:eek:
And that's just the First Round...!! ;) :D
protonik
03-16-2007, 05:55 PM
...You kids realize what World War Hulk is, don't you? It's The Q's way of apologizing and trying to make up for just how fracking lame Civil War was.
If these four pages are any indication, Marvel might just pull that attempt at redemption off...
Too bad WWH was planned BEFORE Civil War. Civil War was literally thrown together at the last minute. Planet Hulk was supposed to be the lead in to Marvel's next big event when it was first announced over a year ago and there was no mention of Civil War or even a hint of it. The Illuminati stuff was originally a lead in to WWH. If you read the FF before Planet Hulk started it was also lead in to WWH with the Hulk/Thing battle. They were just able to dovetail that into Civil War more easily than original anticipated.
trence5
03-16-2007, 05:58 PM
How many here would NOT want to be Tony Stark this summer, raise your hands....?
Ummm
1, 2 , ........................................ ..............35,....................... ......... ok 258, oh wait 67,893...
Yep, thought so......
better hope T'Challa has a contingency plan for this
THEShoePimp™
03-16-2007, 06:00 PM
That. Is. AWESOME.
OK, peace out.
THE Shoe Pimp™
Bevbos
03-16-2007, 06:02 PM
I know its World War Hulk, but is anyone even going to die at the Hulk's hands?
There are plenty of creators that suuport the point that Hulk never killed anyone in his decades of rampages. And Hulk is still a 'hero', so will anyone, a named character, or even a bystander, bite it? Sure, aliens have died during Planet Hulk, but will they kill humans? Will they kill American civillians? I kind of doubt it.
Given the way Civil War was, as Ares put it, 'a slapfight' I have no confidence in this event to deliver anything but a few more standard Hulk vs ___ fights. I'll be reading this in the store or via torrents and if it's good I may pick up the trade.
My money is one one unintentional death to occur in WWH, which brings out the "Banner" in him, makes him remorseful, and off he goes, bouncing into the desert, or wherever.
Still, Hulk vs ____ fights tend to ROCK, so count me in, especially with that gorgeous JR Jr. artwork. I pity the poor folks who don't dig on JR Jr...
protonik
03-16-2007, 06:06 PM
Professor X gets a "Get out of jail free card" apparently. I suppose he's still going to be in space during this plot arc. Lucky for him!
have you seen the cover for WWH/X-Men... Xavier AIN'T getting away.
deathshead2
03-16-2007, 06:07 PM
Take note Bendis and Millar this is how you write an event.
OG_vg_warrio
03-16-2007, 06:13 PM
I wanna hear you scream
That is the greatest line ever and proof that I will buy this.
astronato
03-16-2007, 06:15 PM
Damn, I am in a fanboy fervor over this. WWH is gonna be FUN, FUN, FUN!!!!!!
Let the beatdowns begin!
DarkJared
03-16-2007, 06:16 PM
Wow - one of the best 4 page previews I've ever seen. I'm psyched for this so much i've almost forgotten about civil whats-its-name....
neodragzero
03-16-2007, 06:17 PM
Wouldn't it be great if Hulk breaks Black Bolt's jaw, effectively eliminating any advantage BB would have?
Then he goes on to cripple Professor X again, who's demoralized further when his students say he deserved it, after all the stuff he's done in the past.
Reed Richards gets cured of his power when Bruce/Hulk works with Amadeus Cho using the powers of the "portal". He goes off to fix things with Sue, who's even MORE distrustful of him after the Illuminati thing comes to life.
Stark finds himself stalemated when his secret cabal is exposed. No one in the world trusts him in control of all the powers. A true world war ramps up. Any remaining heroes on Stark's side won't trust him as a result. The draft begins in earnest :)
Still don't know what to make of Strange and Namor at the moment. Strange is the one wild card in all of this. Maybe he'll feel regret, maybe he'll be preoccupied fighting Namor and the Hulk.
Sentry's calming effect won't matter anymore, and even so, I think when Hulk starts ranting about the Illuminati, he'll be taken aback giving the Hulk an opening. Sentry'll isolate Hulk and go off to see if it's true with Stark. He'll end up joining Hulk as a result.
Thor will probably be the final guest appearance since the hidden part of the cover hasn't been shown yet. He was originally slated to return during Planet Hulk, but it'll probably happen then.
SS will be too busy with Annihilation and after his appearance in Planet Hulk, he won't side against Hulk even if he did return in time.
No idea about the New X-Men, and frankly I don't care. I'm glad mutants don't seem to be driving Marvel's direction/events anymore. I was tired of the endless X-Villian causes problems for everyone in the Marvel U plot. After so many, you'd think someone would crack down on them (thanks Decimation!! :P)
Ultimately, I think he's aiming to carve out a piece of the planet for him and his own to live out peacefully. He's just out for the Illuminati and won't mindlessly smash things, going against expectations. He'll take them down strategically, morally defeating them, as well as in the PR arena. In the end, more of the public will come to respect his position, even if they're terrified of him, and realize he has noble intentions and was did wrong by the Illuminati. (Frontline)
Stark'll send out the entire superhuman army and Hulk'll beat 'em all. SHRA will look as if it failed which may cause some to reconsider how effective SHRA really is.
Yadda yadda yadda..
I'm looking forward to this event as if you couldn't tell :D
All that and more would be great.
Piferelli
03-16-2007, 06:17 PM
Ultimately, I think he's aiming to carve out a piece of the planet for him and his own to live out peacefully. He's just out for the Illuminati and won't mindlessly smash things, going against expectations. He'll take them down strategically, morally defeating them, as well as in the PR arena. In the end, more of the public will come to respect his position, even if they're terrified of him, and realize he has noble intentions and was did wrong by the Illuminati. (Frontline)
I think this idea makes a lot of sense. I'm not sure if Hulk will want a piece of earth though. I would guess he'd want someone to find an uninhabited world in which to relocate the Sakaar refugees.
As much as I would love to see Hulk smash the Illuminati, I think that would just be to simple and pointless. Yeah, the Hulk would have "revenge", but what does that gain him ultimately?
And just to throw this out; didn't we see art from WWH that pictured his wife with him on earth? Whether or not the baby makes it, who knows right now, but I'm pretty sure his wife makes it through the nuclear blast on Sakaar.
protonik
03-16-2007, 06:17 PM
Not sure why Black Bolt would whisper instead of just killing the Hulk. I'll definitely get this for the artwork (love me some JRjr), but the writing doesn't look that great.
Because Black Bolt is a HERO and in the past had been friends with Banner.
monkey x
03-16-2007, 06:45 PM
the more i see of this the more im looking forward to it. poor old illuminati they got a whole load of trouble coming to them (serves 'em right)
DarkJared
03-16-2007, 06:45 PM
I hope for Hulk's sake he downloads videos from Youtube or he's gonna get some bad press in Front Line.... Man I won't be sucked into another Jenkins title ever again....
The rest of this looks fricking awesome though! Though - I might pass on Ghost rider, new 'x-men', and heroes for hire as they are clearly onyl tied in for sales boosts to lagging series.
WineLoverBub
03-16-2007, 06:46 PM
While this looks really effin' good, I'm sticking to my guns and not buying any world war Hulk stuff. I don't like the double dealing from Marvel, they said this was a self contained mini, and now they have as many tie-ins as Civil War. If not they soon will be. Wait for the last minute one-shots, and side minis at the last minute, and watch important story details appear in other comics but not the main one. If when this is over, and it looks like everything important is in the main series then I'll get the trade but sorry Marvel your not getting my money. As Joe Q said "i'm voting with my dollar".
Same here. I stayed away from Civil War and all their B.S. issues that you needed to get for the whole story. Even though this Hulk story looks interesting, I'll wait till the end and get the trade or get the issues on Ebay for way under cover price.
Uchiha_Prodigy
03-16-2007, 06:47 PM
Wonderful, so now instead of everyone fighting Iron Man, its everyone fighting Hulk.
BanMan
03-16-2007, 06:50 PM
Great covers, especially the Iron Man one.:D
EmperorHulk
03-16-2007, 06:51 PM
Hey I dont want to buzz kill the whole thing with logic, it is comics after all but...
Actually it took Silver Surfer about 10 seconds to defeat him. He removed the gamma from Hulk and used it to break Galactus' barrier. Then he flew back inside the barrier to to save Gamma-less Bruce from splatting. Thte way they have shown teh Radioactive Man lately with complete analysis and control over the entire energy spectrum, would dump the Hulk in a heartbeat. He recently did it to Hyperion exposing his one energy weakness.
Dr. Strange has shown capable of taking out the Hulk whenever he wants. He simply teleorted him away to another dimension the last time Hulk was really threatening NY.
He has been taken down on his by SHIELD boatloads of times and now they are tougher than ever.
The Sentry's bad part, the Void, cracked Hulk apart until he whimpered. The Hulk has no Super Speed, the Sentry could fly him to the Sun before he could blink, and certainly wouldnt have a problem eating a punch or 2.
Just this week the X-men Newb, Hellion threw someone 27 miles with a blink. He could take someone out of the atmosphere pretty easy, especially with help. You don't think Beta Ray Bill could whip up a tornado big enough to whisk a 1,200 lb Hulk right out of the atmosphere? Not to mention frying him with mega bolts like the one Thor KO'ed the Hulk with in one shot?
A ultra-powerful telepath, telekinetic like Cable was so much more dangerous than a big strong guy with no flight, energy projection or speed, it isnt even worth discussion.
Any of the Eternals, the Molecule Man, etc, etc could turn him into a puddle if they wanted too.
Again I hope it is his army that makes him a threat and it is well written and creative. Its just that the stories that actually attack the entire Earth usually painfully ignore how much the planet could truly bring to bear if it needed to.
OK, I'm done with logic, I'll just try to enjoy all the big "Ka-Booms!" when it comes out. :)
I always hate to disabuse others in their underestimation of the Hulk, but here we go again ...
Silver Surfer: Not actually part of WWH, but what the hell, let's do it anyway. Hulk can stand up to Surfer physically, and he has increased his resistance to gamma drain, as shown when he sustains the Spikes, creatures used to dining on stars, for several hours before reverting to Banner.
Dr. Strange: Dr. Strange teleported Hulk away by tricking a mindless Hulk into jumping into a portal. It wasn't as simple as pointing a finger and the Hulk disappeared. Dr. Strange would be much better served by using the unbreakable Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, but "unbreakable" is a rather loose term around the Hulk.
SHIELD: I'd like to see a quantification of "boatloads." I don't think they've been as asuccessful recently as you make it sound. Hulk's fought various military organizations and won "boatloads" of times in his history, too, and he's tougher than ever, as well.
Sentry: Sentry's calming influence kept the Hulk from using his strongest power, his rage. I doubt we will see Hulk whimpering any time soon. And no superspeed? I knew I was out of shape, but I didn't realize other people could attain a comfortable cruising speed of almost 500mph and catch bullets in their teeth. And speaking of speed, Sentry cannot teleport, meaning his speed is limited to (at best) the speed of light. That means it would take slightly more than 8 minutes to get to the sun. That's far more than even a Hulk-sized blink would take. Sentry may be able to eat a punch or 2, but how about 100? 200? And if Hulk is stranded in space, he has a handy spaceship to pick him up.
Hellion: Hulk doesn't need to breath and can survive reentry without a scratch. Being transported into the upper atmospere is no problem.
Beta Ray Bill: An interesting fight, but Thor can do the same things, and Hulk has a winning record against him, including several very definitive wins (Hulk Annual 2001 and Hulk v.2 #440)
Eternals: A puddle, no, not unless they all take him in force. Hulk has proven himself capable of killing and defeating gods, and I can find little to convince me that the Eternals are that much greater than the Asgardians or Olympians. Sure, they may be harder to kill, but constantly resurrecting themselves must take a toll. And someone mentioned Sersi. I'd be interested to see how her transmustation powers effect a shapechanger like the Hulk, but even if e is turned into a pig, my money's still on Hulklet.
Molecule Man: Molecule Man could puddle-fy any of the other characters you've named, including the Surfer, Sentry, and the Eternals. I think everyone is just lucky this event isn't World War Molecule Man.
OK, I'm done with logic. I'll just sit back and watch Hulk establish himself as the Strongest One There Is and a legitimate threat to earth once and for all.
solitarg
03-16-2007, 06:56 PM
I feel bad for the Bolt. He has been more screwed than hulk lately. Think about it
Try to Banish Hulk
vs.
Have key ingrediant needed for your whole soceity to work stolen and then not returned.
Personally Bolt has more reason to be upset.
Bane122
03-16-2007, 06:56 PM
Wonderful, so now instead of everyone fighting Iron Man, its everyone fighting Hulk.
At least Hulk is justified.
EmperorHulk
03-16-2007, 06:58 PM
Not sure why Black Bolt would whisper instead of just killing the Hulk. I'll definitely get this for the artwork (love me some JRjr), but the writing doesn't look that great.
Because Back Bolt, like many on this message board, made a mistake. He underestimated the Hulk. Of corse, I don't think Black Bolt's scream will be as effective as people think against a HUlk that has taken gamma nukes to the face and survied with nary a (physical) scratch.
solitarg
03-16-2007, 07:02 PM
I am also worried about how this will turn out.
They are almost turning Hulk into a villain.
Also Black Bolt rarely ever screams. He doesn't want to kill the Hulk, which is the only reason he won't win.
Kolimar
03-16-2007, 07:05 PM
The unconventionally-premised Spider-Man/Red Sonja, a second crossover with Dynamite Entertainment was announced, by Michael Avon Oeming and Mel Rubi (with covers by seemingly ubiquitous cover artist Michael Turner). Five issues, starts in August.
I would have preferred She-Hulk :p :D but this could still be interesting. :) I just hope Turner puts the boobs in the right place. :p
Kolimar
03-16-2007, 07:07 PM
The unconventionally-premised Spider-Man/Red Sonja, a second crossover with Dynamite Entertainment was announced, by Michael Avon Oeming and Mel Rubi (with covers by seemingly ubiquitous cover artist Michael Turner). Five issues, starts in August.
One more for The Complete List of Inter-Company Crossovers. Do you own any? (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=43303) :p :D ;)
Salieri
03-16-2007, 07:11 PM
Spider-Man/Red Sonja?
Hoo...don't do that, Tom! My spine just crawled out of my back out of disgust...I had to coax it back with promises of New Avengers...
neodragzero
03-16-2007, 07:11 PM
Hmm, I guess I might try out some of the tie-ins. At least when it comes to Frontline(I'm willing to forgive...), the X-Men tie-in, and there's no way in hell I'm going through WWH without actually checking out Incredible Hulk. Especially when we seems to promise interaction between the Hulk and Hercules. I can't help but see a conversation through words and fist that ends with a show of an alliance between the two with a handshake.:D
New Way
03-16-2007, 07:12 PM
Because Back Bolt, like many on this message board, made a mistake. He underestimated the Hulk. Of corse, I don't think Black Bolt's scream will be as effective as people think against a HUlk that has taken gamma nukes to the face and survied with nary a (physical) scratch.
Black bolts voice is alot more powerful then a nuke. (wasn't he able to harm a celestrial with it?)
EmperorHulk
03-16-2007, 07:13 PM
Black bolts voice is alot more powerful then a nuke.
So is the Hulk
Doubleshot
03-16-2007, 07:14 PM
See this is why I think Fury actually went into hiding. He was part responsible for the Hulk getting shot into space (If you didn't know). He must have thought "crap what did I do?" and went into hiding as soon as he could.
I wanna see Hulk smash Iron Man's ugly yellow and red hellicarrier.
Kolimar
03-16-2007, 07:15 PM
http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA_07/Marvel/mondo/WWH_FL_1.jpg
Hulk needs a pedicure... :p :D
Alextron
03-16-2007, 07:16 PM
...You kids realize what World War Hulk is, don't you? It's The Q's way of apologizing and trying to make up for just how fracking lame Civil War was.
If these four pages are any indication, Marvel might just pull that attempt at redemption off...
Apologize? Joe? No way.
After Civil War I can't stand to read big crossovers. Marvel did them in. I stopped reading New Avengers and Spidey. Looks like I won't be reading the Hulk anymore, either.
Salieri
03-16-2007, 07:17 PM
I suppose it's time to re-post this:
http://upload.maj.com/gallery/Beliwa/WWH/bigfrickinfoot.png
http://upload.maj.com/gallery/Beliwa/WWH/bigfrickinfoot.png
And remember, there's more like it in the links in my Sig!
Kolimar
03-16-2007, 07:22 PM
HEROES FOR HIRE #11
Written by ZEB WELLS
Penciled by CLAY MANN
Cover by CLAYTON HENRY
The Heroes return to New York to find it the first battleground in WORLD WAR HULK. Will Humbug’s recently amplified powers be a factor against Hulk’s compatriots, Miek and Brood? Can the heroes salve the wounds of their adoptive city and still turn a profit? Both answers are “yes” if Misty Knight has
anything to say about it!
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99
Humbug should kick their collective ass. :p :D
protege
03-16-2007, 07:25 PM
I'm worried for the Rangers after hearing that line about "Throwing the hulk up against a lot of expendable characters."...
Kolimar
03-16-2007, 07:26 PM
IRON MAN #19
Written by CHRISTOS GAGE
Penciled by BUTCH GUICE
Cover by GERALD PAREL
A WORLD WAR HULK TIE-IN! Something's coming to Earth from deep space...and he's very angry. The Hulk wants revenge, and Iron Man's on his list. Can Tony Stark's space defenses even slow down the green giant? What special armor will Iron Man don against the ultimate opponent?
An updated Hulkbuster armor, I suppose.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/df/Hulkbuster.gif/160px-Hulkbuster.gif
RedRonin
03-16-2007, 07:26 PM
So if the Hulk jumped on the moon, as he seems to be jumping at Black Bolt, wouldn't he just float of the moon?
Maurice M
03-16-2007, 07:31 PM
They're inside the city boundries where gravity is supposed to be normal right? That's how they're talking I figured.
motteditor
03-16-2007, 07:38 PM
Avengers: The Initiative will tie-in to World War Hulk for issues #4 and #5, with Brevoort adding that "The Hulk's arrival on Earth is the first major engagement most of these characters are going to have. It's going to be sort of a baptism by fire for many of these characters."
Hopefully they'll be helping Hulk. After all, if Tony's willing to send him off-world, why wouldn't he send his new little minions.
Jokingly, a fan asked Jenkins when Typeface is coming back. Jenkins said "Dead means dead in comics," which got a laugh, but that led to Jenkins giving some "insider information" about how he asked for a list of Marvel characters that could be possibly killed off, and it was a long list.
*sigh* I really wish this current administration would focus on not killing characters but rather using a wider variety. Hawkeye, for example, could take the place of one of the dozen appearances every month of Wolverine, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Warbird...
"Hawkeye in World War Hulk?" McCann: "In Young Avengers, there's that girl named Hawkeye."
Jesus. How hard is it for them to understand fans want Hawkeye, aka Clint Barton.
Alextron
03-16-2007, 07:39 PM
I already like it better than Civil War!!
Can't wait to read more!
That's not saying much. It's like saying:'Wow, that's better than being stabbed in the chest'
Don't know if I'm going to pick any this or not. Hulk is on my list.
Quail-Man
03-16-2007, 07:48 PM
Eddie Brock! Sweet!
He probably won't have the symbiote, but it'll be good to see what his nutty ass is up to.
Prometheus
03-16-2007, 07:53 PM
Rumor has it the series ends with the Hulk just surrendering though......
:)
Thats funny
cookepuss
03-16-2007, 08:05 PM
"World War Meh"
Too lazy to skim through 5+ pages of posts to see if anybody agrees, but I'm pretty darn apathetic about this "event".
Honestly, the Hulk works best in very small doses. It's like Frankenstein. Cool to see him trashing the village and terrorizing the peasants, but you're not gonna make a weekly TV series out of it. In large doses, Hulk is pretty boring.
- "Hulk SMASH!!!"
- - "Cool.
- "Madder Hulk get, STRONGER Hulk get!!!"
- - That's useful. What else ya got?
- "Hulk SMASH?"
- - "Sorry big fella."
Really, do we give a rat's @$$ if he gives Thing the beat down again or if he pops Xavier's head like a zit? It all reeks of an 80's Charles Bronson revenge flick. Lots of payback, but little heart. At least that's the way it's reading on first inspection.
I'm sure that everybody will be screaming for joy as they get their dose of rampaging Hulk action, but I can't see this storyline being of any consequence. Say what you will about "House of M", "Avengers Disassembled", or "Civil War," but those stories were all designed (in one form or another) to have some lasting impact on the 616 at large. WWH seems to be fairly gratuitous carnage that probably alters the landscape of Hulk's world more than anybody else's. Maybe the Illuminati will get outed, but I can's see the larger effects of the story going beyond that.
I love an event as much as the next fanboy, but this whole thing sounds bloated. Not bloated you say? Remember how much they padded Civil War after they first announced that it'd be a smaller event than HoM? Just you wait. Mark my words. This mindless beast is going to grow out of control too.
Pass for me.
palefire
03-16-2007, 08:12 PM
So if the Hulk jumped on the moon, as he seems to be jumping at Black Bolt, wouldn't he just float of the moon?
Chalk it up to the mysterious "Blue Area".
But if Marvel keeps this in tune with past representations - what Medusa said is accurate. Now this is a "wow - the Hulk is one bad dude" event and all - but Black Bolt should be able to knock the Hulk off the surface of the moon with one word - literally - like the Hulk floating in space. So regardless of if the Hulk could survive that or not, I really hope they don't have the Hulk lay a smack down on Black Bolt that isn't in keeping with the history of the characters. I ceretainly don't expect the Hulk to get the crap kicked out of him in a story about what a bad @ss the Hulk is, but let's respect the other characters involved as well (which - hopefully - they do).
Dino Pollard
03-16-2007, 08:15 PM
"Why do you guys hate comic fans?" asked one particularly angry fan.This guy answered his own question. What a prick.
EMeadow
03-16-2007, 08:15 PM
Ok a request and some other info for the fans of this panel:
Laurell K Hamilton has said on her website/message board that the Anita Blake story she's doing is a 2 issue mini. Retailers, I'll say now order heavy on it. Any Anita fan who didn't come in to buy the book based on the idea they didn't want an adaptation of something they already owned will come in for this strictly because its original, detailing with the first times she met Edward and Jean-Claude, and how she acquired some of her scars prior to the first novel.
Request to Marvel: If you're going to refrence this issue of Marvel Team-Up for the Spider-Man/Red Sonja mini, please release it either as a seperate 0 issue or upgrade the first issue of the mini to 48 pages and add it there.
We know its going to be in the trade, but if its "canon" I'm sure many of the fans would love it individually as well. I know I would.
neodragzero
03-16-2007, 08:15 PM
"World War Meh"
Too lazy to skim through 5+ pages of posts to see if anybody agrees, but I'm pretty darn apathetic about this "event".
Honestly, the Hulk works best in very small doses. It's like Frankenstein. Cool to see him trashing the village and terrorizing the peasants, but you're not gonna make a weekly TV series out of it. In large doses, Hulk is pretty boring.
- "Hulk SMASH!!!"
- - "Cool.
- "Madder Hulk get, STRONGER Hulk get!!!"
- - That's useful. What else ya got?
- "Hulk SMASH?"
- - "Sorry big fella."
Really, do we give a rat's @$$ if he gives Thing the beat down again or if he pops Xavier's head like a zit? It all reeks of an 80's Charles Bronson revenge flick. Lots of payback, but little heart. At least that's the way it's reading on first inspection.
I'm sure that everybody will be screaming for joy as they get their dose of rampaging Hulk action, but I can't see this storyline being of any consequence. Say what you will about "House of M", "Avengers Disassembled", or "Civil War," but those stories were all designed (in one form or another) to have some lasting impact on the 616 at large. WWH seems to be fairly gratuitous carnage that probably alters the landscape of Hulk's world more than anybody else's. Maybe the Illuminati will get outed, but I can's see the larger effects of the story going beyond that.
I love an event as much as the next fanboy, but this whole thing sounds bloated. Not bloated you say? Remember how much they padded Civil War after they first announced that it'd be a smaller event than HoM? Just you wait. Mark my words. This mindless beast is going to grow out of control too.
Pass for me.
Uh, it should be made clear that the current Hulk is about more than simply the SMASH crap from the past. So it should be more than just simply a matter of the Hulk being idiot. Or how about actually checking out Planet Hulk a bit or actually reading the mini before jumping to conclusions about a character?
rwe1138
03-16-2007, 08:33 PM
"Will we see Iron Man cry again?" - Jenkins: "We actually have a mini-series planned, 'Marvel's Crying Game'"
So I guess that means Maria Hill really is a man...:rolleyes:
Sarik
03-16-2007, 08:35 PM
I hope Iron Man lasers Hulk in the dick.
Stalzer2002
03-16-2007, 08:37 PM
"World War Meh"
Too lazy to skim through 5+ pages of posts to see if anybody agrees, but I'm pretty darn apathetic about this "event".
Honestly, the Hulk works best in very small doses. It's like Frankenstein. Cool to see him trashing the village and terrorizing the peasants, but you're not gonna make a weekly TV series out of it.
Oddly enough, the only version of the Hulk that I like is from the weekly TV series. Thank God for the Sci Fi channel...
cookepuss
03-16-2007, 08:41 PM
Uh, it should be made clear that the current Hulk is about more than simply the SMASH crap from the past. So it should be more than just simply a matter of the Hulk being idiot. Or how about actually checking out Planet Hulk a bit or actually reading the mini before jumping to conclusions about a character?
Uhm... I did read Planet Hulk. I stuck with it straight through to the end, hoping that it would grow beyond its own hype and redundant storytelling. Turns out, it didn't. For me at least, Planet Hulk was a piece of sh**. It was enjoyable enough at the beginning, but had me screaming, "Are we there yet?" way before the end.
Sorry, but the Hulk just isn't that much more interesting now than he was before Planet Hulk. The whole other planet/gladiator thing is a nice twist, but it really isn't anything that hasn't been done before - in some form or another.
I stand by my assertions that the Hulk is a one trick pony and that "event" is little more than tactic to drive up Q2/Q3 sales. Hype and nothing more. Watch.
I hope for Hulk's sake he downloads videos from Youtube or he's gonna get some bad press in Front Line.... Man I won't be sucked into another Jenkins title ever again....
That'd be hilarious. Sally Floyd tells Urich not to worry, that she can handle it because she stumped Captain America. I don't Hulk will be so passive when he's quizzed about the latest on American Idol.
cookepuss
03-16-2007, 08:44 PM
Oddly enough, the only version of the Hulk that I like is from the weekly TV series. Thank God for the Sci Fi channel...
Funny, but true. Though it's important to note that the series was less "Frankenstein" and more "Kung Fu" in approach.
zeraze1
03-16-2007, 08:51 PM
They're inside the city boundries where gravity is supposed to be normal right? That's how they're talking I figured.
Actually, Medusa and Hulk are able to talk to each other because the Moon's Blue Area has an atmosphere.
zeraze
wjclark01
03-16-2007, 08:52 PM
World War Hulk looks good and all but let's get one thing straight real quick:
One word from Black Bolt and Hulk is toast. That's the way it works. If Marvel Heads want to change the rule for their little series, then it's lame all the way. Hulk is one mean green machine, but come on - Black Bolt?
Stay in your lane, homey.
Hopefully, that's how Hulk ends up on earth with Black Bolt basically stating - "Leave." Buh-bye, Hulkie.
And another beat down on Benjy? Corny. I'm hoping that IM gets his block knocked off and Reed gets stretched into silly putty and yeah, I would like to see Hulk cry about Cap. Liked that Ghost Rider cover shot though - that was cool.
Oh yeah - Let Hulk kill that lame clone - Clor - please?
zeraze1
03-16-2007, 08:54 PM
*sigh* I really wish this current administration would focus on not killing characters but rather using a wider variety. Hawkeye, for example, could take the place of one of the dozen appearances every month of Wolverine, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Warbird...
To be fair, like Cap, nobody was really paying attention to Hawkeye until he died.
Jesus. How hard is it for them to understand fans want Hawkeye, aka Clint Barton.
Personally, I like the female version myself.
zeraze
motteditor
03-16-2007, 08:58 PM
To be fair, like Cap, nobody was really paying attention to Hawkeye until he died.
Perhaps because they weren't doing anything with him other than making Nicieza not have him in costume in his series. And once fans did care, they pretty much pissed that all away by bringing him back and killing him off, bringing him back and ignoring him until he screwed his amnesiac friend and then ignoring him again. Way to squander interest in the character.
Personally, I like the female version myself.
I've got nothing against that character (who also isn't really popping up in many comics now). I'm saying I think fans want the character back and want him using the codename he's most famous for.
zeraze1
03-16-2007, 08:58 PM
Same here. I stayed away from Civil War and all their B.S. issues that you needed to get for the whole story. Even though this Hulk story looks interesting, I'll wait till the end and get the trade or get the issues on Ebay for way under cover price.
Well, at least you're not blaming Marvel for "forcing" you to buy their books.
zeraze
fuzznugget
03-16-2007, 09:01 PM
Maybe it the Tecate talking but I am so F@#king down for WWH. (with a Slayer soundtrack)I may have to break down and get all the ti-ins?
John Cage
03-16-2007, 09:02 PM
Man. Hulk is pissed.
Can't wait to read it. See the Hulk smack some sense into those smug jerks that sent him into space.
Have a good day.
John Cage
Prometheus3
03-16-2007, 09:03 PM
This provided a natural segue for Jenkins to talk about World War Hulk: Frontline, which allows Jenkins to pit Hulk against some of the "disposable" characters in the Marvel Universe.
"What villains will we see fighting the Hulk in World War Hulk?" Paniccia, jokingly: "Tony Stark." He continued, "It's mainly the heroes who will try and protect when Hulk comes to Earth with an army of aliens."
Uggh, I'm really afraid that by the end of World War Hulk some Marvel writers will have made the Hulk into a villain just like how they made Tony Stark into a villain in Civil War.
pop monkey
03-16-2007, 09:03 PM
Not to have to say something negative here...but I'm starting to get really irritated by Marvel making JR Jr's covers ON BOOKS HE DOES THE INTERIOR FOR the EFFIN' VARIANT COVER. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Doesn't make sense, does it?
By the way, this has to be some sort of record for overwhelmingly positive response in a Newsarama thread! Where are all the regular haters? I guess they'll come out once the series gets underway, though they're usually here doing some lovely childish pre-bashing. Khuxford isn't included in the list of haters -- his negative response is entirely justified! :D
pop monkey
03-16-2007, 09:05 PM
...You kids realize what World War Hulk is, don't you? It's The Q's way of apologizing and trying to make up for just how fracking lame Civil War was.
If these four pages are any indication, Marvel might just pull that attempt at redemption off...
Speaking of "fracking lame": nice post. I really hope you were going for some sort of sarcastic humor. You missed the mark, if that's the case, but I'd hate to think you're that naive.
pop monkey
03-16-2007, 09:07 PM
While this looks really effin' good, I'm sticking to my guns and not buying any world war Hulk stuff. If when this is over, and it looks like everything important is in the main series then I'll get the trade but sorry Marvel your not getting my money. As Joe Q said "i'm voting with my dollar".
You know we don't believe you for a second, right?
mightytev
03-16-2007, 09:08 PM
http://www.newsarama.com/NYCC/2007/Marvel/INC_Hulk.jpg
That's Angel, new Scorpian, Hercules, and Namora. I'd say we can add Namor to his forces, Mastermind Excello, and possibly Sentry and Doctor Strange.
(We still don't know too much about the Sentry's life, maybe he was a Defender too? How cool would that be - Hulk, Strange, Namor, Silver Surfer, and Sentry - he's a perfect fit, the loony superpower)
steelscott
03-16-2007, 09:13 PM
Sounds like what they're doing on www.TNAOBB.blogspot.com
mightytev
03-16-2007, 09:15 PM
*sigh* I really wish this current administration would focus on not killing characters but rather using a wider variety. Hawkeye, for example, could take the place of one of the dozen appearances every month of Wolverine, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Warbird...
The same administration that's given us new characters in the Young Avengers, the Runaways, Scorpion, Gravity, and the New X-Men, as well as bringing back old characters like Heroes for Hire and Cloak and Dagger?
Jesus. How hard is it for them to understand fans want Hawkeye, aka Clint Barton.
I'm quite fond of the Hawkeye we have now, thank you very much. Apart from dying, the last interesting thing Hawkeye did was lead the Thunderbolts. Kate is a new and interesting character.
BanMan
03-16-2007, 09:21 PM
So if the Hulk jumped on the moon, as he seems to be jumping at Black Bolt, wouldn't he just float of the moon?
I guess it's a matter of the strength of the jump and the direction. Maybe it's less of a leap and more of a short hop towards BB.:D
neodragzero
03-16-2007, 09:22 PM
Uhm... I did read Planet Hulk. I stuck with it straight through to the end, hoping that it would grow beyond its own hype and redundant storytelling. Turns out, it didn't. For me at least, Planet Hulk was a piece of sh**. It was enjoyable enough at the beginning, but had me screaming, "Are we there yet?" way before the end.
With there being many that enjoyed Planet Hulk. Not claiming that only a few people dislike it but I can't find myself not enjoying it when I don't dwell on the Hulk having to be sent back to earth sooner or later. Maybe the story was longer than it needed to be but I wouldn't simply call it a piece of sh** in the boring whiny fashion that some complain to occur from posters at times. I wouldn't say that Planet Hulk was a complete masterpiece or one of the greatest comic book stories I've ever read but to say something is utter garbage just seems to be wanting to hate on something rather than coming to actually hate it after giving it a reasonable chance.
Sorry, but the Hulk just isn't that much more interesting now than he was before Planet Hulk. The whole other planet/gladiator thing is a nice twist, but it really isn't anything that hasn't been done before - in some form or another.
Just about everything isn't anything that hasn't been done before - in some form or another. I wouldn't exactly claim that I expect some radical unique occurrence in MU that has never, ever been done before in any shape or form.
I guess it's a matter of the strength of the jump and the direction. Maybe it's less of a leap and more of a short hop towards BB.
Sound reasonable and thoughtful.
Prometheus3
03-16-2007, 09:25 PM
The same administration that's given us new characters in the Young Avengers, the Runaways, Scorpion, Gravity, and the New X-Men, as well as bringing back old characters like Heroes for Hire and Cloak and Dagger?Except Gravity has been killed off as have many of the New X-Men. The Young Avengers series is on hiatus and no one was exactly demanding the return of the Heroes for Hire (especially without Luke Cage and Iron Fist).
I'm quite fond of the Hawkeye we have now, thank you very much. Apart from dying, the last interesting thing Hawkeye did was lead the Thunderbolts. Kate is a new and interesting character.
Well considering how long Hawkeye has been dead, then brought back, then killed off again, then brought back, he hasn't had much time to do anything interesting.
motteditor
03-16-2007, 09:51 PM
The same administration that's given us new characters in the Young Avengers, the Runaways, Scorpion, Gravity, and the New X-Men, as well as bringing back old characters like Heroes for Hire and Cloak and Dagger?
I'm not sure what that response has to do with what I wrote. I appreciate almost all of those characters. I am however very frustrated with the ones they're not using, while they massively overexpose a handful.
JLAJRC
03-16-2007, 10:07 PM
I sure hope Black Bolt doesn't bite it ... but it doesn't look promising.
I doubt it, although it is possible. Personally, I think it would be wiser (and funner) if Black Bolt and Hulk teamed up. Hulk for revenge on the Illuminati, BB to get back his terrigan mists since he isn't to friendly with the US at the moment. They would make a scary team. That would really make it a World War. Inhumans/Hulk vs. everyone.:eek:
Zhen Dil Oloth
03-16-2007, 10:45 PM
Great art by JRJR as always.
RedRonin
03-16-2007, 11:02 PM
Except Gravity has been killed off as have many of the New X-Men. The Young Avengers series is on hiatus and no one was exactly demanding the return of the Heroes for Hire (especially without Luke Cage and Iron Fist). Well Gravity is coming back. Young Avengers are still alive and appearing lots of places. NO one was demanding the return of space adventures, but Marvel stepped up big time and delivered. I don't recall too many people asking for Hulk to be the center of attention and yet we have WWH.
Well considering how long Hawkeye has been dead, then brought back, then killed off again, then brought back, he hasn't had much time to do anything interesting. He didn't do anything interesting when he was alive.:p
pez dispenser
03-16-2007, 11:32 PM
Apologize? Joe? No way.
After Civil War I can't stand to read big crossovers. Marvel did them in. I stopped reading New Avengers and Spidey. Looks like I won't be reading the Hulk anymore, either.
I agree.
Joe has absolutely nothing to apologize for.
I've never been a big Hulk guy, but this might be too damned good to pass up.
deworde
03-16-2007, 11:37 PM
Chalk it up to the mysterious "Blue Area".
But if Marvel keeps this in tune with past representations - what Medusa said is accurate. Now this is a "wow - the Hulk is one bad dude" event and all - but Black Bolt should be able to knock the Hulk off the surface of the moon with one word - literally - like the Hulk floating in space. So regardless of if the Hulk could survive that or not, I really hope they don't have the Hulk lay a smack down on Black Bolt that isn't in keeping with the history of the characters. I ceretainly don't expect the Hulk to get the crap kicked out of him in a story about what a bad @ss the Hulk is, but let's respect the other characters involved as well (which - hopefully - they do).
From previous incarnations, hasn't it always been Savage Hulk against BB? I can't think of a time when he's been doing anything other than wading in and getting outmanoeuvred. And as far as I can tell, this is a Hulk that's as Smart as Grey and Strong as Savage. Walking unstoppability.
For example, dragging the Hulk into Space and leaving him there works only with a Hulk dumb enough not to HANG ON to you.
And Black Bolt can hardly cut loose with his voice that close to Attilan. The Hulk's been shown to withstand a whisper before.
deworde
03-16-2007, 11:41 PM
Dr. Strange is one of the few people to ever really be Hulk's friend. It made no sense that he would assist in blasting him into space. Just another example of how Bendis doesn't get the character at all.
Actually, I bought the idea that they were trying to send him somewhere safe, and that Strange knew he'd be happier on a deserted planet than anywhere on Earth. Didn't Strange once exile him somewhere mystical?
hadez
03-16-2007, 11:45 PM
I loved that preview.
I'm definitely getting this!
cookiejar
03-17-2007, 12:13 AM
I think Hulk is in for a big surprise when he finds out he has to register...
Did I just read that Ultimates 13 is still in the inking stage?
I guess that means that when the coloring, printing, stapling, and distribution is done...it looks like this book comes out in December 2008.
But seriously...That WWH preview is crazy awesome...CRAWSOME!
Love JR Jr's work.
saiyanspider
03-17-2007, 12:48 AM
You know we don't believe you for a second, right?
ummm ...so?
mike616
03-17-2007, 12:48 AM
I hope Hulk lays SHIELD to waste,looks like a fun mini.
saiyanspider
03-17-2007, 12:51 AM
Same here. I stayed away from Civil War and all their B.S. issues that you needed to get for the whole story. Even though this Hulk story looks interesting, I'll wait till the end and get the trade or get the issues on Ebay for way under cover price.
exactly, considering what they said and what they did, I'll wait for the trade.
beta-ray
03-17-2007, 01:09 AM
Apologize? Joe? No way.
After Civil War I can't stand to read big crossovers. Marvel did them in. I stopped reading New Avengers and Spidey. Looks like I won't be reading the Hulk anymore, either.
Buh bye!
I'll be happily reading my comics! :)
bebopeva88
03-17-2007, 01:31 AM
That Wolverine & DD by Yu is amazing!
Ash Talon
03-17-2007, 01:59 AM
Shouldn't Iron Man himself be able to take down Hulk by now?
Let's look at some facts:
-Iron Man has fought Huk to a standstill and beaten him even. And this was in his 70s armor.
-Iron Man fought Hulk to a standstill in his Hulkbuster amror. And this was the "