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MattBrady
03-09-2007, 11:04 AM
<img src="http://www.newsarama.com/Wildstorm/The_Boys_007_COV.jpg" border="0" align="right"><i>Press Release</i>
<blockquote>Dynamite Entertainment will become the new publisher of the ongoing comic book series THE BOYS by writer Garth Ennis and artist Darick Robertson, beginning with issue 7 of the series, it was announced today by Dynamite Entertainment’s President & Publisher Nick Barrucci. Ennis and Robertson, the co-creators of the series, will continue as the series’ creative team. Issue # 7of THE BOYS will go on sale from Dynamite in June of 2007. Dynamite will also publish the first trade paperback collection of THE BOYS, collecting issues 1-6, in June.

“I’d like to thank Paul Levitz and everyone at DC Comics and Jim Lee and everyone at Wildstorm Productions for helping make this a smooth transition,” said Nick Barrucci. “I’m pleased to welcome the Boys to Dynamite Entertainment and look forward to working with Garth and Darick for years to come.”

“I'd like to thank all concerned at both DC and Dynamite for making this such a smooth and civilized transition,” said Garth Ennis. “My priority now is to get back to work on The Boys.”

“I'm quite excited about the opportunities that our series the Boys will gain by moving to Dynamite! I am also looking forward to many more years with DC Comics, working on a variety of excellent projects with the great people I know there,” said Darick Robertson. “I believe that this has been an unlikely ‘win-win’ situation for all involved, and glad we can all move on, still smiling. I'm thankful to Paul Levitz and the DC staff for making this a smooth transition.”

In addition to illustrating THE BOYS, Darick Robertson will continue his relationship with DC Comics, where he remains under exclusive contract. Robertson will be providing art for upcoming comic books for DC, WildStorm and Vertigo.

In addition to writing THE BOYS, Garth Ennis is writing the current story arc of WildStorm’s MIDNIGHTER.

Diamond Comic Distributors will continue to distribute THE BOYS issues 1-5, originally published by WildStorm/DC Comics, while supplies last. (Issue 6 of the series is sold out at the publisher.) WildStorm/DC Comics also announced today that orders for the previously solicited issues 7, 8 and 9, as well as orders for the first trade paperback collection of the series, have been cancelled.

DYNAMITE ENTERTAINMENT was founded in 2004 and is home to several best-selling titles and properties in the comics market. Including Army of Darkness, their best-selling Red Sonja series, The Lone Ranger #1, Battlestar Galactica, Xena Darkman Six from Sirius, Borderline, Painkiller Jane, Raise the Dead, Highlander and now The Boys. For more information, check out www.dynamiteentertainment.com.

DC Comics, a Warner Bros. Entertainment Company, is the largest English-language publisher of comics in the world and home to such iconic characters as Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and the Sandman. These DC super heroes and others have starred in comic books, movies, television series (both animated and live-action) and cyberspace, thrilling audiences of all ages for generations. DC Comics’ Web site is located at www.dccomics.com.</blockquote>

JDoudican
03-09-2007, 11:11 AM
FINALLY I CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT!

This is the best news this week!

Ace
03-09-2007, 11:12 AM
Well good for DC. They made a decision that they couldn't in good faith publish a title and allowed it to move, without a hitch, over to another company.

When you look at a lot of titles that just end up in limbo, there's a lot of professionalism here.

tralfaz
03-09-2007, 11:15 AM
i just hope they dont make multiple covers for the book, thats my only gripe with dynamite

MrNEWZ
03-09-2007, 11:16 AM
Well good for DC. They made a decision that they couldn't in good faith publish a title and allowed it to move, without a hitch, over to another company.

When you look at a lot of titles that just end up in limbo, there's a lot of professionalism here.

Definitely something you see from DC lately. Similar things happened with Fallen Angel (though it was more a sales driven issue than a content one, iirc). Always good to see books land somewhere when they have a strong following like the Boys seems to have (at least online)

gokujam
03-09-2007, 11:17 AM
Umm, forgive my ignorance but what is this book about?

neodragzero
03-09-2007, 11:19 AM
Good to here when there will actually be another release. I swear that DC has to be slightly nuts to give up this title to another publisher.:D

siren3-4
03-09-2007, 11:20 AM
Umm, forgive my ignorance but what is this book about?

What really happens in the world of superheros and the bunch of guys that try to keep them in line.

Hellblazer
03-09-2007, 11:24 AM
Good to here when there will actually be another release. I swear that DC has to be slightly nuts to give up this title to another publisher.:D

They are; nuts, that is !

hellboy666
03-09-2007, 11:25 AM
Yay, I'm looking forward to finally getting the first TPB!!

dethmtlmetro
03-09-2007, 11:25 AM
i just hope they dont make multiple covers for the book, thats my only gripe with dynamite

why's that? do you have trouble picking which cover you want? I know sometimes I have that problem with Red Sonja.

This is great news! I hope Dynamite doesn't censor it at all. I'm having such a fun time reading this series (I had only bought issue three and six, and just got 1, 2, 4, and 5) right now! Glad to see it's gonna keep going without a hitch.

Ye Olde Iowa
03-09-2007, 11:26 AM
This is great news and a classy move by DC. The book was selling well and the creators seemed to have a passion for it, so I'm glad to see that DC allowed the book to move and for Dynamite to reprint the original WildStorm issues. Now I just can't wait for June to pick up the trade!

Chip
03-09-2007, 11:26 AM
Umm, forgive my ignorance but what is this book about?
Mary Marvel blew The Justice League in it! It was hot. ;)

chuck

gokujam
03-09-2007, 11:30 AM
Mary Marvel blew The Justice League in it! It was hot. ;)

chuck

Huh??:confused: :confused:

tralfaz
03-09-2007, 11:33 AM
why's that? do you have trouble picking which cover you want? I know sometimes I have that problem with Red Sonja.

I find that 9 times out of 10 there's one great cover and the rest are just mediocre or flat out bad

jordanscott
03-09-2007, 11:36 AM
woohoo!!!!

tiso_spencer
03-09-2007, 11:38 AM
About time news of this has been released. I cannot wait for this book to make Dynamite absurd amounts of money. This is going to be like their first 20k-30k+ book in sales numbers. I hope DC takes notice of how stupid they were for letting this go when this making a ton of money. Maybe next time they will learn not to get uptight at the fact that the JLA would totally act the way their analogues were doing in The Boys. "Out-Preacher, Preacher." What the hell did they think that meant?

Good for you Dynamite. I hope the trade offers us the unedited panels from the first story.

Punchy
03-09-2007, 11:39 AM
Stop thanking DC! They shouldn't have cancelled it in the first place!

But this is good news, a great series returns!

brothereye
03-09-2007, 11:41 AM
This series has been awesome, and am very happy that this will be continuing.
Dynamite, please don't make four different covers for each book. No need for 4
different artists doing each book, as Robertson's covers have been fantastic.
Nice to see a NEW original story on Dynamite besides all the TV shows.
Painkiller has been a fun story, as well.

Kal*el
03-09-2007, 11:43 AM
Stop thanking DC! They shouldn't have cancelled it in the first place!

But this is good news, a great series returns!

No, you should thank DC. They decided they didn't want to publish it, fine. They both admitted to the reason for cancellation (not trying to blame sales or other forces), and allowed it to move almost seamlessly to a new company. I think that's fantastic of them.

EmeraldGuy32
03-09-2007, 11:49 AM
Stop thanking DC! They shouldn't have cancelled it in the first place!

But this is good news, a great series returns!
ditto. DC is still on my shitlist for this one. But I need to thank someone for The Boys return.

Punchy
03-09-2007, 11:52 AM
No, you should thank DC. They decided they didn't want to publish it, fine. They both admitted to the reason for cancellation (not trying to blame sales or other forces), and allowed it to move almost seamlessly to a new company. I think that's fantastic of them.

Admitting the reason doesn't make up for the reason being the wrong reason.

GHERU
03-09-2007, 12:00 PM
Issue # 7
This made me very happy. Not a new #1, this is a complete continuation.

Stop thanking DC! They shouldn't have cancelled it in the first place!

But this is good news, a great series returns!

My only disagreement here is that I am thankful to DC for letting Robertson have an exception to his exclusive contact for this.

Kolimar
03-09-2007, 12:07 PM
Excellent news. :) I'm still upset with DC for not keeping the title but they deserve all the thanks in the world for doing the next best thing.

Kolimar
03-09-2007, 12:11 PM
No, you should thank DC. They decided they didn't want to publish it, fine. They both admitted to the reason for cancellation (not trying to blame sales or other forces), and allowed it to move almost seamlessly to a new company. I think that's fantastic of them.

I couldn't agree more. They're even letting an exclusive artist work on an ongoing for another company. :eek:

johnny.blaze
03-09-2007, 12:14 PM
I couldn't agree more. They're even letting an exclusive artist work on an ongoing for another company. :eek:

Exactly. Props to DC for not being a corporate d!ck about this.

andrew9976
03-09-2007, 12:18 PM
Except that his exclusive contract lets him have an "out" for creator-owned work, right? He could just as soon do a book at Image, et. al., so DC isn't being as "cool" as we think. They're just honoring a creator's contract.

GHERU
03-09-2007, 12:37 PM
Except that his exclusive contract lets him have an "out" for creator-owned work, right? He could just as soon do a book at Image, et. al., so DC isn't being as "cool" as we think. They're just honoring a creator's contract.

I believe only for work that was published before the contract. If I am wrong, please let me know, but, from what I understand, this was a special circumstance

Black Beetle
03-09-2007, 12:48 PM
This is great. And I'm still unhappy with DC for cancelling it, but props to them for making the transition smooth and easy (from the looks of it, at least).

G Dog
03-09-2007, 12:50 PM
Admitting the reason doesn't make up for the reason being the wrong reason.

I see. So you would rather they cancel the book and just bury it? Because they could have done that. Very easily. But they allowed the creators to take it to another publisher with no grief or static whatsoever.

Also, maybe you should thank DC for publishing it in the first place, because it likely wouldn't have been published anywhere else.

Or maybe you should just get over yourself.

CMadness
03-09-2007, 12:51 PM
No one at DC has gone on the record about the actual reason, but you can infer that the order to pull the plug came from well over Paul Levitz's head.

Rebis
03-09-2007, 12:56 PM
First of all, DC's under no obligation to publish any title. True, The Boys has a decent following, so from a sales viewpoint it might be an odd choice. But DC doesn't need those sales. What was a mid-level seller for a DC imprint is a huge hit for a small publisher. So DC decides it would rather not keep The Boys in its Wildstorm stable, and it releases the comic to another publisher. What's the problem? It will still be out there for that small but questionable segment of the world to "enjoy."

It's a dreadful comic. Über-violent, just for the sake of the violence. Also misanthropic, misogynistic and anti-gay. Full of bizarre, tired, pathetic stereotypes. It's not funny, though a fair amount of people seem to think it is. Villains raping superhero's wives is one thing; they're villains, after all. But heroes forcing a fresh-faced young recruit to give them all blow jobs so she can join the team? Yikes. Soo not funny. And for a comic that depicts a whole lot of sex, it's not at all sexy either. That hamster bit? Please. That's a tired urban myth.

If you haven't bought it yet, my recommendation is: Page through an issue or two in the store before you plunk down your hard-earned cash.

metabaron
03-09-2007, 01:04 PM
It's great that it's going to Dynamite. What's sad is that THE BOYS could have stood really well in the wildstorm universe just as Authority, Stormwatch,Wildcats, Majestic and Midnighter does. It's just sad that we will never see THE BOYS do a guest shot or crossover with these characters in the wildstorm universe. I mean, when Ennis did KEV, that was just as outrageous as The Boys were and we were fortunate to see KEV interact with the authority in his series. I just wish we could have seen the BOYS title do the same. I was really looking forward to that and now I have to wait until Dynamite and DC decide to do a crossover.

:eek:

skeletorjr
03-09-2007, 01:05 PM
First of all, DC's under no obligation to publish any title. True, The Boys has a decent following, so from a sales viewpoint it might be an odd choice. But DC doesn't need those sales. What was a mid-level seller for a DC imprint is a huge hit for a small publisher. So DC decides it would rather not keep The Boys in its Wildstorm stable, and it releases the comic to another publisher. What's the problem? It will still be out there for that small but questionable segment of the world to "enjoy."

It's a dreadful comic. Über-violent, just for the sake of the violence. Also misanthropic, misogynistic and anti-gay. Full of bizarre, tired, pathetic stereotypes. It's not funny, though a fair amount of people seem to think it is. Villains raping superhero's wives is one thing; they're villains, after all. But heroes forcing a fresh-faced young recruit to give them all blow jobs so she can join the team? Yikes. Soo not funny. And for a comic that depicts a whole lot of sex, it's not at all sexy either. That hamster bit? Please. That's a tired urban myth.

If you haven't bought it yet, my recommendation is: Page through an issue or two in the store before you plunk down your hard-earned cash.

Agreed. I've got a friend that reads it and I checked out a few issues, I thought it was sick and stupid. And that's not meant as a compliment.

Scavenger
03-09-2007, 01:10 PM
i just hope they dont make multiple covers for the book, thats my only gripe with dynamite

Psssst....you know you don't have to buy the multiple covers, doncha?

DreamKing
03-09-2007, 01:10 PM
DC Comics, a Warner Bros. Entertainment Company, is the largest English-language publisher of comics in the world and home to such iconic characters as Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and the Sandman.
So the Sandman now goes after the Big 3 when listing prominent DC characters?

Hell yeah. :D

Uchiha_Prodigy
03-09-2007, 01:11 PM
Yes, this made my day.

Scavenger
03-09-2007, 01:18 PM
So the Sandman now goes after the Big 3 when listing prominent DC characters?

Hell yeah. :D

For quite some time. Remember, it's a huge seller in the bookstore world.

avery
03-09-2007, 01:20 PM
Umm, forgive my ignorance but what is this book about?


It had a hamster fly out of a super-hero's ass covered in duck tape. It rules.

tiso_spencer
03-09-2007, 01:31 PM
It never should have been canceled to begin with. I am not going to thank DC for doing something they should not have done so in the first. It was gaining sales. That is like that saying from the Geico commerical "If standing up is like making money, you do not say 'Gee I think I stood up enough already I will have a seat'" or something to that effect.

I am sure there are more behind the curtain reasons why the "real" reason will never be told but anyone with a brain should know it had more to do with the JLA and the other hero's being nut-jobs and a little less with the content. Don't get me wrong, the content was up there, but seriously I am sure Vertigo puts more stuff that pushes the buttons. Honoring a contact does not get praised. The only thing I will thank is that this book continues, but then again seeing how this is pretty much a creator owned work was there really any doubt?

Jeremy Williams
03-09-2007, 01:38 PM
DC AND THIER FREAKIN PUBLIC IMAGE! How many times Ennis and Dynamite are going to say thank you to DC. Good Lord this is disgusting. "We're gonna give you your rights back unless you kiss our asses all over the press" is how it feels here. :o

GHERU
03-09-2007, 01:47 PM
First of all, DC's under no obligation to publish any title. True, The Boys has a decent following, so from a sales viewpoint it might be an odd choice. But DC doesn't need those sales. What was a mid-level seller for a DC imprint is a huge hit for a small publisher. So DC decides it would rather not keep The Boys in its Wildstorm stable, and it releases the comic to another publisher. What's the problem? It will still be out there for that small but questionable segment of the world to "enjoy."

It's a dreadful comic. Über-violent, just for the sake of the violence. Also misanthropic, misogynistic and anti-gay. Full of bizarre, tired, pathetic stereotypes. It's not funny, though a fair amount of people seem to think it is. Villains raping superhero's wives is one thing; they're villains, after all. But heroes forcing a fresh-faced young recruit to give them all blow jobs so she can join the team? Yikes. Soo not funny. And for a comic that depicts a whole lot of sex, it's not at all sexy either. That hamster bit? Please. That's a tired urban myth.

If you haven't bought it yet, my recommendation is: Page through an issue or two in the store before you plunk down your hard-earned cash.
here's the thing.


This was a nice thread about how many of us were happy about a favorite book's return. Yes, some of us had valid complaints against its original cancellation, but even those were being handled with smiles, because a book we liked was back. But, no. Happy threads are not allowed on the Rama.

Why are there always those out there that cannot but help to sh*t on other's good times. If you don't like the book, and feel the need to warn others about it couldn't you just say "I am happy for those fans who have their book back but it wasn't for me. I would recommend flipping though it before committing to something that I find offensive"?

TheGrayHulk
03-09-2007, 01:54 PM
“I'd like to thank all concerned at both DC and Dynamite for making this such a smooth and civilized transition,” said Garth Ennis. “My priority now is to get back to work on The Boys.”

“I'm quite excited about the opportunities that our series the Boys will gain by moving to Dynamite! I am also looking forward to many more years with DC Comics, working on a variety of excellent projects with the great people I know there,” said Darick Robertson. “I believe that this has been an unlikely ‘win-win’ situation for all involved, and glad we can all move on, still smiling. I'm thankful to Paul Levitz and the DC staff for making this a smooth transition.”

I would love to be alone in a wire-less room with them and hear what they really think about DC... ;)

PS: This will be my first Dynamite comic!

avery
03-09-2007, 01:55 PM
here's the thing.


This was a nice thread about how many of us were happy about a favorite book's return. Yes, some of us had valid complaints against its original cancellation, but even those were being handled with smiles, because a book we liked was back. But, no. Happy threads are not allowed on the Rama.

Why are there always those out there that cannot but help to sh*t on other's good times. If you don't like the book, and feel the need to warn others about it couldn't you just say "I am happy for those fans who have their book back but it wasn't for me. I would recommend flipping though it before committing to something that I find offensive"?


Very, very good point. I was wondering why someone who found a book offensive. Took the time to come to this thread and poop on it. I would like that question answered. Are your morals SO important you have the need to spread them no matter what? Like if I have no interest in a particular book or article I don't even read it much less comment on it. Please answer me Mr. Boys is Bad guy/. Why did you feel the need to tell a group of Boys fans your narrow minded feelings?

7thunders
03-09-2007, 02:01 PM
Very, very good point. I was wondering why someone who found a book offensive. Took the time to come to this thread and poop on it. I would like that question answered. Are your morals SO important you have the need to spread them no matter what? Like if I have no interest in a particular book or article I don't even read it much less comment on it. Please answer me Mr. Boys is Bad guy/. Why did you feel the need to tell a group of Boys fans your narrow minded feelings?



Yes, but your response(s) have been juvenile to say the least. Also, what about the people who started turning the thread into "DC is stupid" thread. There's a lot of blame all around on who is making this thread "negative"

PaulCrocker
03-09-2007, 02:01 PM
Well good for DC. They made a decision that they couldn't in good faith publish a title and allowed it to move, without a hitch, over to another company.

When you look at a lot of titles that just end up in limbo, there's a lot of professionalism here.

My love for things DC just grew some more with their ability to allow this book to find life elsewhere.

avery
03-09-2007, 02:02 PM
"Inflicting his morals" on you? Grow up already. I couldn't care any less whether DC, Dynamite or anyone else publishes The Boys. I looked through a couple of the issues and it looked like garbage. The 20 or so fans here who love The Boys act like it's both the best comic ever and a best-seller. I'm fairly certain that it's neither.

If you could care less about the Boys why comment on it. You are like a hall monitor telling us what we should and should not like. In my opinion the Boys IS one of the top ten books being published now. As for it being a best seller a) mature reader comics sell less than regular label b)the trades will do GREAT just like Preacher.

You came here just to poop on a book YOU find morally offensive. There are comics and movies I have found offensive and you know what? I ignore them instead of inflicting my narrow minded view of right and wrong on the books/movies fan base. Are you gay? If you would like to provide that information it would add to this discourse. Because how you justify calling a book anti-gay? I didn't see any gay bashing, or horrendous harm down to a homosexual. I saw a farce that attacked many different life styles and did not single any out.

I wonder what else you find offensive. Please share, oh Hall Monitor of all wholesome values?

GHERU
03-09-2007, 02:03 PM
Yes, but your response(s) have been juvenile to say the least. Also, what about the people who started turning the thread into "DC is stupid" thread. There's a lot of blame all around on who is making this thread "negative"
the diffrence is the tone of thier posts didn't read like they were attacking the fans of the book, just its previous publisher.

Sunless
03-09-2007, 02:14 PM
No, you should thank DC. They decided they didn't want to publish it, fine. They both admitted to the reason for cancellation (not trying to blame sales or other forces), and allowed it to move almost seamlessly to a new company. I think that's fantastic of them.

DC admitted nothing. DC has no balls and gets no thanks from me.

Robertson is working for DC because of his contract, but after issue 5 of Midnighter, Ennis is not solicited to write any DC books. Will he? Doubtful at this point in time.

Looking forward to issue 7 and the first trade.

Rebis
03-09-2007, 02:17 PM
Wow, some of you Ennis fans are really testy.

I posted on this thread because somebody asked what the book was about. I simply think any person who hasn't heard of the book yet should know what they're buying before they run out and plunk down their cash. And they're clearly not going to get a full picture from you rah-rah Boys cheerleaders.

Heads up for those of you throwing around these dopey attempted insults: Do you even know what you mean when you allege someone is "politically correct"? That's typically an label thrown at those on the political left from those on the political right (and a pretty impressive sleight-of-hand, because the right is much more prone to imposing its morality on others). Any true liberal would not censor your speech or impose their morality on you, which is what PC "police" wish to do. I don't question your right to read The Boys (though I do seriously question your taste), nor do I question Dynamite's right to print it, nor do I question Ennis's right to write it. But as long as Ennis is going to spew such soul-deadening junk, there are going to be other people like me who question and challenge it.

If such questioning and challenging offends you, then you're the ones with the thin skin. And probably you're the ones who need to "grow a set."

avery
03-09-2007, 02:18 PM
DC admitted nothing. DC has no balls and gets no thanks from me.

Robertson is working for DC because of his contract, but after issue 5 of Midnighter, Ennis is not solicited to write any DC books. Will he? Doubtful at this point in time.

Looking forward to issue 7 and the first trade.

This is the second time DC has pulled this on Ennis. They refused to publish a SEX Detective story a number of years back. DC needs to understand the variety of their audience and not worry so much about controversial content.

I say this and I am a HUGE DC fan/

Steve J.
03-09-2007, 02:19 PM
If you could care less about the Boys why comment on it. You are like a hall monitor telling us what we should and should not like. In my opinion the Boys IS one of the top ten books being published now. As for it being a best seller a) mature reader comics sell less than regular label b)the trades will do GREAT just like Preacher.

You came here just to poop on a book YOU find morally offensive. There are comics and movies I have found offensive and you know what? I ignore them instead of inflicting my narrow minded view of right and wrong on the books/movies fan base. Are you gay? If you would like to provide that information it would add to this discourse. Because how you justify calling a book anti-gay? I didn't see any gay bashing, or horrendous harm down to a homosexual. I saw a farce that attacked many different life styles and did not single any out.

I wonder what else you find offensive. Please share, oh Hall Monitor of all wholesome values?Good grief, you're in such a lather that you're mixing me up with Rebis - he called The Boys "anti-gay", not me. In any case, I don't care whether you buy The Boys or not. I'm more bothered by your habit of making personal attacks on people that you disagree with. Really, why do you think it's okay to call people names, especially when you don't like it done to you?

On Feb 5th you said:

"He calls me names because he can't think of a valid argument so he attacks. Another reason people think of comic fans as oversexed nerds. Trolls and their keyboards."

Then on Mar 4th you said:

" I like how you call Tischman a hack before you read the man's work. Can you do better you piece of crap?"

cookiejar
03-09-2007, 02:22 PM
I was waiting for this news...I am super pumped!

G Dog
03-09-2007, 02:22 PM
You sir are an idiot. Grow a spine, and a funny bone. Anti-gay? Ok, iwonder are you gay? Cause I know a bunch of gays folk that read and adore Garth Ennis. It's called parody, and like Lenny Bruce, or Andy Kaufmann the crasness is part of the spectacle.

Grow a set.

YEAH! You don't like some crappy juvenile comic book that I like, so you suck!!!!




Isn't parody supposed to be funny? This was about as funny as Scary Movie 3.

protonik
03-09-2007, 02:24 PM
So does this mean every issue gets like 4 covers etc. like ALL the Dynamite stuff does?

avery
03-09-2007, 02:25 PM
Wow, some of you Ennis fans are really testy.

I posted on this thread because somebody asked what the book was about. I simply think any person who hasn't heard of the book yet should know what they're buying before they run out and plunk down their cash. And they're clearly not going to get a full picture from you rah-rah Boys cheerleaders.

Heads up for those of you throwing around these dopey attempted insults: Do you even know what you mean when you allege someone is "politically correct"? That's typically an label thrown at those on the political left from those on the political right (and a pretty impressive sleight-of-hand, because the right is much more prone to imposing its morality on others). Any true liberal would not censor your speech or impose their morality on you, which is what PC "police" wish to do. I don't question your right to read The Boys (though I do seriously question your taste), nor do I question Dynamite's right to print it, nor do I question Ennis's right to write it. But as long as Ennis is going to spew such soul-deadening junk, there are going to be other people like me who question and challenge it.

If such questioning and challenging offends you, then you're the ones with the thin skin. And probably you're the ones who need to "grow a set."

Not true at all. I would not go to a post about a book I find distasteful and spew my venom at said book. I am not so full of myself that y opinion should mean that much to people. What about the Boys, offends you exactly? The book is an obvious South Park like farce. It is a well crafted, wonderfully crude, dick and fart joke. Are you above crude humor? If so that's cool, this book is obviously not for you, so your opinions mean nothing.

Why wouldn't a thread of the announcement of The Boys return be filled with Boys "cheerleaders/
This is a place for fans to celebrate the return of a book they enjoy. If yoy don't like it don't read it, but to spread your hate of the book is self serving and makes you come across like a giant dark cloud. You threw terms around like "anti-gay" and still have not explained yourself? If you read Ennis he is pretty much anti-everything. Why is it up to you to judge the limits of farce?

It is funny you call us cheerleaders when it sounds like you are the one that wears a skirt.

Sunless
03-09-2007, 02:26 PM
This is the second time DC has pulled this on Ennis. They refused to publish a SEX Detective story a number of years back. DC needs to understand the variety of their audience and not worry so much about controversial content.

I say this and I am a HUGE DC fan/

Pity it never came out, those guys were hilarious in Preacher. It doesn't feature any superheroes either so whats the matter DC?

metallicolt
03-09-2007, 02:27 PM
I am so happy that the Boys will be coming out again.

Thanks Garth Ennis, Darick Robertson & Dynamite for bringing back The Boys.

avery
03-09-2007, 02:27 PM
Good grief, you're in such a lather that you're mixing me up with Rebis - he called The Boys "anti-gay", not me. In any case, I don't care whether you buy The Boys or not. I'm more bothered by your habit of making personal attacks on people that you disagree with. Really, why do you think it's okay to call people names, especially when you don't like it done to you?

On Feb 5th you said:

"He calls me names because he can't think of a valid argument so he attacks. Another reason people think of comic fans as oversexed nerds. Trolls and their keyboards."

Then on Mar 4th you said:

" I like how you call Tischman a hack before you read the man's work. Can you do better you piece of crap?"


I attacked that gentlemen because I was offended that he would call a creative individual a hack. He showed that he was not worth intelligent discourse.

I apologize for attacking you when I shoul dhave been attacking the thought police on this board.

MattBrady
03-09-2007, 02:30 PM
It is funny you call us cheerleaders when it sounds like you are the one that wears a skirt. three days. deleted posts, other people talking about the nastiness, yet you keep making insults, you just <i>don't get it.</i>.

Everyone else - calm it down about three notches.

MattB

G Dog
03-09-2007, 02:31 PM
In my opinion the Boys IS one of the top ten books being published now.

I see now!!!! YOUR opinion matters, but those who disagree with you are idiots. Your argument makes so much more sense now.

I ignore them instead of inflicting my narrow minded view of right and wrong on the books/movies fan base.

Maybe you should try doing that on message boards too, if you're so high and mighty. Did anyone force you to read these posts? Did anyone force you to continue reading them when you were morally offended? Did anyone force you to post YOUR OWN narrow minded view of right and wrong, about who's smart and who's an idiot?

Thought not.

MattBrady
03-09-2007, 02:34 PM
<b>ENOUGH</b>

If anyone else wants to be clever and get last shots in, or show how witty they are with an insult, they're getting booted. Not in the mood, don't have time to weed through, "But, but, but...he <i>said</i>...!"

KNOCK IT THE HELL OFF.

MattB

cncoyle
03-09-2007, 02:44 PM
I just can't believe Cap's dead!

oops, wrong thread:o

GOSD
03-09-2007, 02:46 PM
Well, I'm happy that we're finally seeing the book come back.

Bravo to Darrick and Garth and a thank you again to the people @ Dynamite.

JDoudican
03-09-2007, 02:56 PM
Hey everyone...I had the first post in the thread. So...technically...that makes me better than all of you right now.

I just read through all of my Boys issues a while ago to give me a refresher. It reminded me how much more I love The Boys than Preacher--and THAT is saying a LOT.

GreatKrypton
03-09-2007, 02:56 PM
I just can't believe Cap's dead!

oops, wrong thread:o


:mad: :mad: "SPOILERS!!!!!!" :mad: :mad:

...


:p

GOSD
03-09-2007, 03:04 PM
Hey everyone...I had the first post in the thread. So...technically...that makes me better than all of you right now.:rolleyes:

cncoyle
03-09-2007, 03:04 PM
:mad: :mad: "SPOILERS!!!!!!" :mad: :mad:

...


:pDude, Captain Marvel died in the 80's.:rolleyes:

cookiejar
03-09-2007, 03:06 PM
I think before all the fan boys and anti-Boys start to exchange violent blows, lets just say that this title is not for all...

I like the series, because it is mindless and does have some really effed-up shiznit in it.

I don't read the Boys looking for tulips, leprechauns and funny little jokes about superheroes... I don't read it for social commentary.

I read it because it fills that "mindless violence" gap in my comic book world that I need to fill... call me stupid for being like that....But I have read many other titles with vearying degrees of violence or innocence.

I will keep reading this book until I feel like I am wasting money... until then I am just enjoying the ride.

TheRay
03-09-2007, 03:08 PM
Congrats to Ennis and the rest of the creative team!

I've heard loads of good things about this title, and I have yet to catch up on it (mostly because my LCS hasn't stocked up much on back issues for it!). Glad to see Dynamite putting that trade out.

cookiejar
03-09-2007, 03:08 PM
I just read through all of my Boys issues a while ago to give me a refresher. It reminded me how much more I love The Boys than Preacher--and THAT is saying a LOT.


You are right....That is saying a lot... I wouldn't say that this series tops Preacher, I think it would have to last a few more years to say that... I think Preacher had less shock value used... and to that end, sparingly.

I think this series has made a point to go above and beyond the levels of violence/debauchery that Preacher had.

SpyGuy
03-09-2007, 03:12 PM
I'd like to thank DC Comics for their asinine decision to abruptly cancel a title with sales that were actually rising after they solicited the next four issues and the first trade collection in PREVIEWS.

And I'd also like to thank Dynamite for picking up THE BOYS and being willing to take my $2.99 per month that DC apparently doesn't want because all of their other titles after "One Year Later" are doing so incredibly well right now.

Oh, and I should also thank the Academy, my parents (for making me possible), and the late, great Captain America. (Taps heart twice with right fist, then points skyward with two fingers) We miss you, bro.

Shackmania
03-09-2007, 03:24 PM
please....SHUT UP. what are you DR.PHIL???!!! Sound like a worthless talk show host.

:mad:
It's always good to see a well thought out criticism answered by a just as well thought out "SHUT UP" followed by the presumed insult in comparing him to Dr. Phil a "worthless talk show host"

cfutino
03-09-2007, 03:30 PM
Umm, forgive my ignorance but what is this book about?

Imagine super-heroes in a money/media centric, corrupt and over-sexualized world (Hey, it's Garth Ennis, what were you expecting?). Now imagine a bunch of quasi-normal guys trying to stop the mess said super-heroes do. Thast's basically what The Boys is about.

More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_%28comic%29

Kinnon
03-09-2007, 03:31 PM
Very happy to hear the title is coming back so soon.

Additionally it's great news to hear that the tradepaperback will be launching more or less simultaneously with issue #7, it'll be a great point to capatilise on jump on readers, and we'll be stocking appropriately.

This book saw not only great word of mouth in our area but out lovely customers went above and beyond reccomending to friends, so re-ordering was incredibly brisk and we always kept it in stock.

The numbers you see from diamond do not reflect the actual popularity of this title, I know most other retailers were chasing higher and higher numbers on this title like ourselves, and the reorder numbers were significantly higher than most of our usual top 10 titles.

Boys #6 surpassed our sales on JSA #1, New Avengers Illuminati #1, and Justice #9, and was edged out only by JLA #4 AND #5, Astonishing X-men #19, and the 52's for that month.

I'll be sticking up a notice in store tomorrow morning to let everyone know.Congratulations Darick and Garth, and can I add my support to the people who have already mentioned their hope that the trade paperback will be uncut.

AnthonyL
03-09-2007, 03:45 PM
First of all, DC's under no obligation to publish any title. True, The Boys has a decent following, so from a sales viewpoint it might be an odd choice. But DC doesn't need those sales. What was a mid-level seller for a DC imprint is a huge hit for a small publisher. So DC decides it would rather not keep The Boys in its Wildstorm stable, and it releases the comic to another publisher. What's the problem? It will still be out there for that small but questionable segment of the world to "enjoy."

It's a dreadful comic. Über-violent, just for the sake of the violence. Also misanthropic, misogynistic and anti-gay. Full of bizarre, tired, pathetic stereotypes. It's not funny, though a fair amount of people seem to think it is. Villains raping superhero's wives is one thing; they're villains, after all. But heroes forcing a fresh-faced young recruit to give them all blow jobs so she can join the team? Yikes. Soo not funny. And for a comic that depicts a whole lot of sex, it's not at all sexy either. That hamster bit? Please. That's a tired urban myth.

If you haven't bought it yet, my recommendation is: Page through an issue or two in the store before you plunk down your hard-earned cash.

I agree with some of what you posted, but I'm hanging in to see the potential. I know Garth has it. I'll give the second six issues to blow me away. If not, my money was wasted. Such is life.

BUT, I have to disagree with your disdain for those who do enjoy it. Blanket statements and judgements based on somebody enjoying a subjective piece of material are never productive.

In other words: I think the majority of Superman stories, under any pen, are completely worthless wastes of time. I also can't understand why others get such enjoyment out of Dark Knight and Watchmen, when I only found them to be OKAY.

But I sure as heck wouldn't say those that enjoy Superman or Batman or Watchmen as a questionable segment of readers. I doubt your intentions were to actually insult anybody, but you came off as superior in your tastes and very judgemental.

Not saying you don't have a point, though, just so we're clear. :)

Anthony L

crazyhorse01
03-09-2007, 03:46 PM
here's the thing.


This was a nice thread about how many of us were happy about a favorite book's return. Yes, some of us had valid complaints against its original cancellation, but even those were being handled with smiles, because a book we liked was back. But, no. Happy threads are not allowed on the Rama.

Why are there always those out there that cannot but help to sh*t on other's good times. If you don't like the book, and feel the need to warn others about it couldn't you just say "I am happy for those fans who have their book back but it wasn't for me. I would recommend flipping though it before committing to something that I find offensive"?

here's the thing:

It's a forum. People post opinions on forums. Not just opinions you may happen to share It's what forum are for.

If there weren't differing opinions, forums would be pretty godd**m boring.

Cray_ws
03-09-2007, 04:04 PM
i just hope they dont make multiple covers for the book, thats my only gripe with dynamiteI know the feeling. If there's a woman in the cast, which there is then the odds are variants are already on tab. Its like 75% chance with male characters and 95% chance with female characters. You know what...maybe I should've said 100% chance because I don't think they have ever published a series without variants.

I admire their effort to publishing liscensed properties, but it stops right there because of unfortunate business practice of variants.

GHERU
03-09-2007, 04:18 PM
here's the thing:

It's a forum. People post opinions on forums. Not just opinions you may happen to share It's what forum are for.

If there weren't differing opinions, forums would be pretty godd**m boring.

but to completely insult those of us who enjoy the book? yea I need that kind of excitement in my life. opinions are one thing, what that was was something else. Read the posts, was not saying that people who dislike the book should stay away, all I was saying was that there should be a better way than spewing venom to express yourself (not necessarily at the person I ma now quoting).

Dirtbagjeff
03-09-2007, 04:47 PM
:D Hells yes. Glad its got a new home, and they are picking up right were they left off.

G Dog
03-09-2007, 04:51 PM
but to completely insult those of us who enjoy the book? yea I need that kind of excitement in my life. opinions are one thing, what that was was something else. Read the posts, was not saying that people who dislike the book should stay away, all I was saying was that there should be a better way than spewing venom to express yourself (not necessarily at the person I ma now quoting).

Where was the "complete insult" to anyone who enjoys the book?

Dude expressed his opinion, outlined what he didn't like about the book. I didn't see anywhere that he said everyone who likes the book is an idiot.

There's one point where he questioned the taste of people who like it, but guess what, taste is subjective. It's not insulting to say "I don't see why you like it". It's simply stating an opinion.

crazyhorse01
03-09-2007, 04:56 PM
but to completely insult those of us who enjoy the book? yea I need that kind of excitement in my life. opinions are one thing, what that was was something else. Read the posts, was not saying that people who dislike the book should stay away, all I was saying was that there should be a better way than spewing venom to express yourself (not necessarily at the person I ma now quoting).

I read his post, and I went back and read it again. He did not insult anybody, although you could maybe make the case that by expressing his distaste toward the product he might have been insulting the book's creators.

But, I don't see anywhere in his post that he bags on fans of the book. Indeed, his post seems directed at people who aren't familiar with the book.

Face it, you're insulted because he finds something that you enjoy to be offensive. Get over yourself.

GHERU
03-09-2007, 05:11 PM
Get over yourself.
again, with the personal attacks, what is up with people here. if you read what I wrote, his tone was very rude, and I was not the only one who thought so. there are different, more pleasant ways to say that you dislike a book than what he did. Also my original statement included a general reference to post that were similar to his. I do not care if someone dislikes the book. I do not mind if they post that in a thread about the book, but the way that it was posted I found unnecessary.

The personal attacks that he went though after that (NOT BY ME) were even worse. I do not know him, and I will assume that he is a very pleasant person, but, I felt that his first post went to far.

Woody
03-09-2007, 05:12 PM
I just can't believe Cap's dead!

oops, wrong thread:o
Thanks for the spoiler alert :rolleyes:

Linkara
03-09-2007, 05:21 PM
Thanks for the spoiler alert :rolleyes:

At this point, I'm sure even the people in The Boys universe know he's dead.

Yeah, count me among the people who don't like this title and would've preferred it stayed cancelled. Still, I'm happy for those of you who are glad it was picked up.

GHERU
03-09-2007, 05:28 PM
At this point, I'm sure even the people in The Boys universe know he's dead.

Yeah, count me among the people who don't like this title and would've preferred it stayed cancelled. Still, I'm happy for those of you who are glad it was picked up.
wait a minute...who died?

Woody
03-09-2007, 05:46 PM
wait a minute...who died?
Flag Smasher-

from the early nineties Captain America

crazyhorse01
03-09-2007, 05:54 PM
again, with the personal attacks, what is up with people here. if you read what I wrote, his tone was very rude, and I was not the only one who thought so. there are different, more pleasant ways to say that you dislike a book than what he did. Also my original statement included a general reference to post that were similar to his. I do not care if someone dislikes the book. I do not mind if they post that in a thread about the book, but the way that it was posted I found unnecessary.

The personal attacks that he went though after that (NOT BY ME) were even worse. I do not know him, and I will assume that he is a very pleasant person, but, I felt that his first post went to far.

You know, I gotta admit I'm surprised that someone as easily insulted and as sentive to tone as yourself can handle the subject matter of the book in question. :rolleyes:

Sunless
03-09-2007, 07:06 PM
I think before all the fan boys and anti-Boys start to exchange violent blows, lets just say that this title is not for all...

I like the series, because it is mindless and does have some really effed-up shiznit in it.

I don't read the Boys looking for tulips, leprechauns and funny little jokes about superheroes... I don't read it for social commentary.

I read it because it fills that "mindless violence" gap in my comic book world that I need to fill... call me stupid for being like that....But I have read many other titles with vearying degrees of violence or innocence.

I will keep reading this book until I feel like I am wasting money... until then I am just enjoying the ride.

If you think its mindless thats fine, but its not and it is filled with social commentary. This book does what Civil War was supposed to do, but better and with more violence sex and emotion.

GHERU
03-09-2007, 07:11 PM
Flag Smasher-

from the early nineties Captain America
oh, I was concerned it was Magneto

AnthonyL
03-09-2007, 07:15 PM
again, with the personal attacks, what is up with people here.

Much like how many licks it REALLY takes to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop (it's not three, you liars), the world may NEVER know.

Newsarama is the subject of many a college thesis.

Newsarama is constantly refered to as a cesspool of hating fanboys with juvenile attitudes and arrogant presumptions and preconcieved notions...and yet it just gets more and more popular. The same people who constantly complain about Newsarama on other MB's post here, often with multiple screen names. If you think about it too much, you're head will explode. Not just pulsate dangerously close to stroke territory, with the throbbing vein in the forehead, but literally explode.

I've seen it happen, and it's not pretty. I lost a former roomate to Newsarama headexplodingness syndrom (Copyright and TM pending..maybe, if I get around to it). If it wasn't for meeting my wife and starting a family afterwards, I would of been forever tormented by the loss of my dear friend to this horrible site (now I'm just like "You're dead, I"m not. Loser)

My theory? People just like to complain. About anything. You have a hard day at work, you come home and get online to Newsarama and insult anybody who thinks Superman can be beat up by Thor. Wife/girlfriend (boyfriend?) cheat on you? Who cares? Come online to Newsarama and school the little nerdboys about how REAL comics aren't done by Marvel or DC, and that they still live in their mothers basements. And then when Matt Brady finds time out of his godawful busy day (I dunno how he does it, but my theory involves clones. Lots and lots of clones) to come in and try to break it up, you just call him a Nazi bastard and if you get banned you whine about it on other MB's until the ban you for being a pain in their butts.

Me? I like Newsarama. It's got the most up to date news (Sorry Wizard, it's true, it's true), I love the Best Shots threads, Ryan's always got great columns, even if you think you can add to them, and on the whole? People aren't THAT bad...it just seems that way.

A rude comment or an ignorant chump every once in awhile is worth it as far as I'm concerned for this enjoyable, FREE website.

Anthony L

PhilipAMoore
03-09-2007, 07:42 PM
i just hope they dont make multiple covers for the book, thats my only gripe with dynamite

just be glad it did not go to avitar they do that with every book they sell
I mean who want's to buy Butcher nude varient

good day

GHERU
03-09-2007, 07:43 PM
Newsarama is the subject of many a college thesis.
do you have links to any of these? My wife is writing her thesis on gender roles in film, and i am applying to grad school, and we would love to see this.

Frakin AWESOME

sorry, really bid dork moment there

PhilipAMoore
03-09-2007, 07:46 PM
Huh??:confused: :confused: it was an oral sex joke read the comic an you will understand and yes the joke "sucked"

GHERU
03-09-2007, 07:46 PM
it was an oral sex joke read the comic an you will understand and yes the joke "sucked"
see, I thought that the joke "blew" just shows that there are different strokes for diffrent folks

AnthonyL
03-09-2007, 07:52 PM
do you have links to any of these? My wife is writing her thesis on gender roles in film, and i am applying to grad school, and we would love to see this.

Frakin AWESOME

sorry, really bid dork moment there

I had some examples but I left them in my other internet.

Sorry :(

Anthony L

PhilipAMoore
03-09-2007, 08:08 PM
Umm, forgive my ignorance but what is this book about?

this book is an adult look at superheros not for kids. Superheros are looked at more realisticly look then usully shown in thing like XMen. most superheros here a corupt guys that expoit there powers people live die sex is more liberal then most superheros books
were as in DC Marvel heros are looked at in a positive light in Boys does not. because the Super Heros are corupt there a group of people mostly men who keep them in line this
book is both a dark horror story and a bighting satire as well as a human drama very much like Preacher starring Super Heros According to the writer he is going try to be offensive
it's a great book I can not recommend it enough. :cool:

good day

PhilipAMoore
03-09-2007, 08:12 PM
see, I thought that the joke "blew" just shows that there are different strokes for diffrent folks thanks lol ;)
Good day

bcondray
03-09-2007, 08:25 PM
Imagine super-heroes in a money/media centric, corrupt and over-sexualized world (Hey, it's Garth Ennis, what were you expecting?). Now imagine a bunch of quasi-normal guys trying to stop the mess said super-heroes do. Thast's basically what The Boys is about.

More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_%28comic%29


You forgot the best part...

The dog...the dog that ..... the dog. :P

ROBRAM89
03-09-2007, 11:10 PM
Wait, what? Darick Robertson is DC exclusive? What the hell are they using him on? One book they canned and a really good issue of 52 (where, I repeat, Dibney looked JUST like The Smiler), what else do they have him on?

Generic Eric
03-09-2007, 11:22 PM
I eagerly await each trade paperback collection in The Boys future with this new publisher. Hah, on all the fans compelled to buy multiple alternate covers.

DC comics haters need to step off. Every post ragging on my favorite comic company has so far been undelievably petty in this thread.

Mack
03-10-2007, 01:41 AM
“I’d like to thank ... for helping make this a smooth transition,” said Nick Barrucci. “I’m pleased to welcome the Boys to Dynamite Entertainment and look forward to working with Garth and Darick for years to come.”

“I'd like to thank all concerned ... for making this such a smooth and civilized transition,” said Garth Ennis.

... said Darick Robertson. “... I'm thankful ... for making this a smooth transition.”




So did they have a meeting beforehand, the way the politicians would, to agree on exact talking points?

gvalley
03-10-2007, 07:30 AM
Good good. And I would like to thank DC for giving up on one of the very few titles they had with any balls, and for making the transition of money from my wallet to other publishers' pockets as smooth as possible.

Don Mega
03-10-2007, 01:17 PM
Will there be a trade of the first 6 issues??

Everyone is thanking DC for letting the series go and that´s a good thing. But shouldn´t they look at the things they publish BEFORE it hits the stands?

lfhobbies
03-10-2007, 02:31 PM
Mary Marvel blew The Justice League in it! It was hot. ;)

chuck
:D :D :D :D :D

Classic line - I might have to steal that when describing it to some of my customers

James

Deathangel
03-10-2007, 03:45 PM
Personally I find The Boys to be quite souless.
PReacher had a soul. Yes, it had all the gross-out fu<a></a>cked-up sh<a></a>it but it also had characters that you cared about. It didn't seem like the whole series was just an outlet for Ennis's extremities and opinions on X-subject, whereas The Boys seems like Ennis is just wanting to tell us how much he dislikes superheroes and show us how extreme he can make a book.
I tried to like the boys, I really did, but in the end when the writer himself compares it to Preacher you can't help but notice how much The Boys falls short of Preachers soul.

DarkJared
03-11-2007, 01:14 AM
DC's loss - I don't know why they didn't just move it over to Vertigo or something for the adult content. I loved this book and am very excited to see it continue whitout legal crap. I hope the industry takes notice of this - although I can't help wondering if this would have been the happy ending it was if it wasn't Ennis. If some nobody was writing the book would they have been so accomodating?

Dallas Bar
03-11-2007, 12:58 PM
Will there be a trade of the first 6 issues??

Everyone is thanking DC for letting the series go and that´s a good thing. But shouldn´t they look at the things they publish BEFORE it hits the stands?

Please just read the first paragraph again.

ThatGuamGuy
03-12-2007, 12:38 PM
Robertson is working for DC because of his contract, but after issue 5 of Midnighter, Ennis is not solicited to write any DC books. Will he? Doubtful at this point in time.

Disagree. For starters, Ennis has two arcs of 'JLA Classified' in the can which have yet to be solicited due to the way that book is scheduled. And one of those is a 'Hitman' arc.

Anyway, I wouldn't rule out more DC-work for Ennis. I'd assume that the only reason DC is being as cool about this as they are is that they want to keep Ennis happy and willing to work for them.

But I would say this doesn't bode well for anybody hoping that DC would reprint the rest of 'Hitman' anytime soon.

So, am I the only fan of the book who thought Robertson's art started to slip by the end? The first several issues, I thought it was the best Robertson art I'd ever seen ... but then it started to seem a little sloppy and rushed. Hopefully, this unscheduled break will give him a chance to get ahead on the art, and it be strong again.

Dark Light
03-13-2007, 06:41 PM
My favorite ongoing series. I feel bad for that poor hamster.:eek:

CGazillions
03-13-2007, 11:55 PM
So did they have a meeting beforehand, the way the politicians would, to agree on exact talking points?

"In the meeting we had beforehand we decided to agree on the exact talking points"

heheehheh yeah they did.

This book is going to rock and has anyone else noticed the main character looks like that guy from Shaun of the dead?

Ed

www.comicsgazillions.com

Generic Eric
03-14-2007, 05:24 PM
This book is going to rock and has anyone else noticed the main character looks like that guy from Shaun of the dead?

It's kind of obvious that Wee Hewie is Simon Peg.