52 Week 44 ***SPOILERS***

[MazingMan728]

Cover has Isis’ face reflected in a pool of blood.

The ticker at the bottom reads “Leaving Nanda Parbat…The Lady in Red…Fighting the Four Horsemen…”

Deaths in the Family

The book is penciled by Eddy Barrows and there is no Origin in this issue.

From the End of Last Week’s Issue…
Week 43, Day 5
Kahndaq: It’s nighttime and outside the palace a truck is being loaded with more bodies as while Osiris looks on and is approached by Sobek.
Sobek: Osiris? What are you doing up here? I thought you were meeting Black Adam and Isis. They’re going to dig a new river through town. They keep drying up, but…
Osiris: I’m not going. I’m leaving Kahndaq.
Sobek: What? What about what you said? At the Rock of Eternity?
Osiris: I said what they wanted to here. That’s all. Adam may be able to live with what he did but I can’t. As long as I have these powers I need to be far away from anyone.
Sobek: But that’s it Osiris. You can rid yourself of your powers. You can speak Black Adam’s name and rid yourself of the curse. But them oh, Osiris…you will not be able to walk.
Osiris: That’s it, Sobek. That must be my penance. Maybe then Kahndaq will be free from death and disease and hunger.
Sobek: Say it my friend.
Osiris: Step back. BLACK ADAM!
And with a flash Osiris is back in his human form.
Osiris: The Gods…Adam’s gods…they’re gone. I don’t hear the voices anymore. You’re right again Sobek! Perhaps my life will return to normal now. Perhaps I will be happy again and all Kahndaq will be as well. Sobek?
Sobek’s eyes begin to glow and then he takes a big bite out of Osiris’s stomach. Osiris starts to call out Black Adam’s name but is stopped by Sobek biting him again and again. A bloody Sobek raises his head “I’m not so hungry anymore”.

Beginning this Week’s Issue:
Week 44, Day 1
Kahndaq: While flying above Kahndaq, Isis is mention to Black Adam about how here powers have been affect, “As soon as I ask the clouds to form…they dissipate…” Black Adam tells Isis that they “will journey to the Rock of Eternity tomorrow” and is then struck by lightning knocking him to the ground.
Adam: I feel…stronger. They have returned to me.
Isis: What has?
Adam: The powers of Osiris. Something is wrong.
Both Adam and Isis return back home to find the remains of Amon on the palace grounds. Isis is upset and runs toward the body but is held back by Adam. Adam takes off his cape and covers the body of Amon/Osiris. Adam returns to Isis who is starts crying on his shoulder…
Isis: Why did he change? Why did he change back?
Sobek: Osiris believed his powers were the cause of Kahndaq’s misery. What a fool.
Isis: Sobek?
Sobek: For all he tried to do to sweeten his soul, his flesh tasted like rotting chicken. He was stringy. He’s still stuck between my teeth.
Isis: It was you Sobek? How could you?
Sobek: I was so awfully hungry. I’m always hungry and only the flesh of a Marvel can satisfy me. That’s the way they made me. I am not only Sobek the Crocodile Man—I am Yurrd the Unknown. I am Famine.
Sobek explains that he was sent to the Sivana House before they arrived and infiltrated their family by posing as a confused and scared talking animal.
Isis: We treated you like family. We loved you.
Sobek: What does a reptile need love for? My blood is cold! Intergang offered you everything they could for safe passage through Kahndaq. You said no. And now you and your family are a threat to Intergang’s ever growing Religion of Crime. That is why we were brought here.
Adam: We?
Sobek: Me and my siblings, War, Pestilence and Death. Some call us the “Monster Society” but we are the “Four Ages of Dread of Apokolips in its Anguished Bloody Morning”. Our influence over the last several weeks is the true cause of Kahndaq’s misery and it will be the cause of yours.

Death, War and Pestilence arrive at the palace. Adam goes after Death and grabs hold of his scythe causing both to tumble down to the palace roof and through it causing Isis and Sobek to fall down with them. Sobek then goes after Adam. Adam grabs Sobek by the top and bottom jaw and forces it wide open killing him. Adam them goes after War and starts to get beat down. Meanwhile Pestilence arrives down on the floor and goes after Isis. Isis is able to keep Pestilence at bay with vine and wind when Death returns.

WAR: You have been marked by the stare of Aszrauez the Silent King. He has chosen you both for death and you will suffer through it.

War grabs Adam by the head and throws him into a statue of a lady knocking her head off. Adam is grabbed and forced to the ground before being picked up and knocked through the two statues of the boys that are behind the statue if the lady.
During this Pestilence comes up behind Isis and sprays her with his poison which immediately starts to take affect. Death reaches down and grabs Isis by the hair and places his scythe to her neck.

War starts to reach down for Adam…
War: Will you beg for your life as well?
Adam: No. Will you? A being who embodies all the War in the World does not impress me.

Adam punches his way into War’s chest and pulls out his wiring and then rips off one of War’s arms and blows Pestilence’s head off. Death quickly turns his attention towards Adam and grabs him by the face. Isis takes notice and creates a volcanic blast underneath Death to save Adam.
Isis: Earth…bring forth your lava…send Death into the sky…send him away from my husband…
Adam: You have done it Isis. Death flees.
Isis: All we tried to do…my brother tried to do.
Adam: I will take you to the Rock of Eternity. Billy will be able to--
Isis: I see it now. Why your way…kept Kahndaq and its people safe.
Adam: Do not give up hope. You taught me never to give up --
Isis: I was wrong.
Adam: I believed in you.
Isis: I was wrong, Adam…it was never you that needed redemption. It was the rest of the world. The world of men that made such horrible creatures. The evil needs to die. I thought we could be above them but for the pain they have put our family through…avenge us.
Adam is struck again by lightning and Isis is transformed back into Adrianna as it starts to rain. Adam looks up at the sky and then looks angry.

Nanda Parbat: The rose that Isis gave Renee suddenly dies and turns to dust in Renee’s hand. Renee looks towards Tot and Richard Dragon.
Renee: She’s dead. Isis is dead. Whatever happened…it can’t be good. Adam and Osiris…what will they do, now? How will they cope?
Tot: Find out.
Renee: What?
Richard: Go and find out. There are a lot of answers to be found in Nanda Parbat, no question about it. None of them are going to satisfy you, not one of them is the one you’re looking for.

Tot informs Renee that he has treated here clothes with the same treatment as used for the coat and hat.
Richard: You’re going to find, like Sage did, that some questions can only be answered by wearing a mask. Just as there are some that can only be asked when you remove one. So start in Kahndaq and see where it leads you.
Richard places Charlie’s hat on Renee and she starts to cry.


NEXT IN 52: Black Adam dropping Renee on her butt, The Great Ten, and Black Adam being held up by Death. The cover is Black Adam sitting on a throne with bodies lying all around him (This is the cover pictured in Previews and Online).


Normally I do not place the previous issue’s ending, but there might be something with the time/date being as last issue ended with the death of Osiris on day 5 but this issue picks up right from there on day 1. Is this a “Time is broken” moment or an editorial error?

[PrimalSlayer]

I cant believe that they killed off Isis aswell, it wouldve been nice to see some new charecters past 52 but ofcourse they have to get killed off.

[Amethyst Rose]

Looks like BA is about to go postal on somebody's butt...

[dkc_2001]

Wow. I feel Sorry for BA.

[Speedball93]

Why get us invested in characters only to see them thrown away. Can they not tell an intense, emotional story without having to kill everyone and there brothers? I would think that as professional writers, they would have tools, skills, and experience enough to figure something out. Yes, I know that they "did their job" by getting us to care, but what now? Where do the fans of Isis and Osiris and the Question, and Ralph Dibny, and Ted Kord go now? You are limiting your stories and your readers interest by eliminating the very characters that we have grown to love. Does anyone else see what is wrong with death in comics anymore?

[BanMan]

Wow. I feel Sorry for BA.

I feel sorry for the DCU. Not only did his love tell him that his violent methods were best but now he's got vengeance on his brain. Even though I don't buy 52, this sounds great. Hopefully DC won't waste anytime getting to stories featuring these characters.

[BanMan]

Why get us invested in characters only to see them thrown away. Can they not tell an intense, emotional story without having to kill everyone and there brothers? I would think that as professional writers, they would have tools, skills, and experience enough to figure something out. Yes, I know that they "did their job" by getting us to care, but what now? Where do the fans of Isis and Osiris and the Question, and Ralph Dibny, and Ted Kord go now? You are limiting your stories and your readers interest by eliminating the very characters that we have grown to love. Does anyone else see what is wrong with death in comics anymore?

Ralph'll probably be back. But yes, it is a shame that so many people seem to be dying in the brighter DCU. I think I would've liked it if the Black Marvel Family stuck around as it added a new wrinkle to BA.

[sweetmisery]

OK THATS IT! Im getting 52 no matter how late I am. Black Adam is what interests me in DC.

[IvCNuB4]

Normally I do not place the previous issue’s ending, but there might be something with the time/date being as last issue ended with the death of Osiris on day 5 but this issue picks up right from there on day 1. Is this a “Time is broken” moment or an editorial error?

Wasn't it night when Osiris was killed ? Perhaps it was just before midnight, so this issue is just moments later, after midnight and technically the next day.

"The Four Horsemen will end her rain" indeed .....

[NeoSamurai]

Why get us invested in characters only to see them thrown away. Can they not tell an intense, emotional story without having to kill everyone and there brothers? I would think that as professional writers, they would have tools, skills, and experience enough to figure something out. Yes, I know that they "did their job" by getting us to care, but what now? Where do the fans of Isis and Osiris and the Question, and Ralph Dibny, and Ted Kord go now? You are limiting your stories and your readers interest by eliminating the very characters that we have grown to love. Does anyone else see what is wrong with death in comics anymore?

Literature is filled with death. You might as well say does anyone sees something wrong with death in TV and books?

I think the deaths of the Black Adam Family were very well written and powerful because of being able to "know" them as a reader. They give insight as to why Black Adam would do what he decides to do in WWIII. For the most part, it makes him very human and relatable.

Edited to add:

Besides--Black Adam is a villain. He really shouldn't have a happy ending :P

[NeoSamurai]

Ralph'll probably be back.

Ralph's on an alternate Earth with Barry and Sue and they're living the Silver Age for all eternity :D

[bsmith]

Why get us invested in characters only to see them thrown away. Can they not tell an intense, emotional story without having to kill everyone and there brothers? I would think that as professional writers, they would have tools, skills, and experience enough to figure something out. Yes, I know that they "did their job" by getting us to care, but what now? Where do the fans of Isis and Osiris and the Question, and Ralph Dibny, and Ted Kord go now? You are limiting your stories and your readers interest by eliminating the very characters that we have grown to love. Does anyone else see what is wrong with death in comics anymore?


I totally agree, you nailed it. What kills me is characters like the (Vic Sage) Question have had little chance to prove they can gain an audience after (in the Q's case) getting such great exposure on JLU. So they give him a shot only to kill him.

Weird decision-making.

BSmith

[bsmith]

Why get us invested in characters only to see them thrown away. Can they not tell an intense, emotional story without having to kill everyone and there brothers? I would think that as professional writers, they would have tools, skills, and experience enough to figure something out. Yes, I know that they "did their job" by getting us to care, but what now? Where do the fans of Isis and Osiris and the Question, and Ralph Dibny, and Ted Kord go now? You are limiting your stories and your readers interest by eliminating the very characters that we have grown to love. Does anyone else see what is wrong with death in comics anymore?

By the way can someone ask this excellent question to Didio at a DC Panel this convention season??

BSmith

[Punchy]

Why get us invested in characters only to see them thrown away. Can they not tell an intense, emotional story without having to kill everyone and there brothers? I would think that as professional writers, they would have tools, skills, and experience enough to figure something out. Yes, I know that they "did their job" by getting us to care, but what now? Where do the fans of Isis and Osiris and the Question, and Ralph Dibny, and Ted Kord go now? You are limiting your stories and your readers interest by eliminating the very characters that we have grown to love. Does anyone else see what is wrong with death in comics anymore?

Because if they get you invested, they can make you pay for the inevitable 'Rebirth' miniseries ;)

[NeoSamurai]

Because if they get you invested, they can make you pay for the inevitable 'Rebirth' miniseries ;)
Or capitalize on the existence of two heroes with the same identity running around (Green Lantern, Ion, GLC :D). I'm keeping my fingers crossed for "the Question: He Said, She Said" mini :cool:

[chap22]

Because if they get you invested, they can make you pay for the inevitable 'Rebirth' miniseries ;)
i gotta admit, Punch, i laughed at that. nice one, young man.;) :)

[crood]

Wasn't it night when Osiris was killed ? Perhaps it was just before midnight, so this issue is just moments later, after midnight and technically the next day.

"The Four Horsemen will end her rain" indeed .....

That would still make it Week 43, Day 6. There'd still be 2 full days before Week 44, Day 1.

[rabbitman]

this sounds like a REALLY good issue, im gonna have to wait an extra day to get it, which sucks, but i cant wait.
im frickin hating the renee story. i honestly read it and think 'whats the point'. sure they are getting more diverse with gender and sexuality, but when they do this at the expense of characters that have ridiculous potential like vic sage DEFINITELY did after JLU (he could have become the constantine or something of the DCU....constantine is SO not doing anything in DC recently!)
I hope they change Steels armor after the Luthor fight to make him way more unique and less of a superman wannabe (starting with the symbol. iron man doesnt need a symbol, you just know its him)
I like the space story overall. and i hope we get word from Ralph sometime soon, i didnt like this character before, but 52 and Justice (that was a killer scene) have made me pretty interested.

[Punchy]

i gotta admit, Punch, i laughed at that. nice one, young man.;) :)

It's funny because it's true.

[Kevenn]

I'm still not clear whether Isis is dead for real, or whether she just turned back into Adrianna and gave up being Isis. Oh well, I guess I'll read it this evening.

I still think that Renee as the Question bites.

[Moriarty]

In regards to Adam, I once again quote the Jpoker: "All it takes is one bad day."

That bad is arrived and the DCU could very well be $@%^*ed...:cool: :D

[NeoSamurai]

so--anybody gonna make up a WWIII banner that says "I'm with Teth-Amon/Black Adam" :D

[NeoSamurai]

Sobek: Me and my siblings, War, Pestilence and Death. Some call us the “Monster Society”

and it looks like Mr. Mind's game has been stepped up. I'm curious how he ended up being the mastermind behind Intergang in addition to Skeets.

Though the motivation makes sense in a way. Mr. Mind is getting rid of time travellers so his plan won't get stopped.

[chap22]

and it looks like Mr. Mind's game has been stepped up. I'm curious how he ended up being the mastermind behind Intergang in addition to Skeets.

Though the motivation makes sense in a way. Mr. Mind is getting rid of time travellers so his plan won't get stopped.

HE'S NOT SKEETS!!!!!!:p

[chap22]

and it looks like Mr. Mind's game has been stepped up. I'm curious how he ended up being the mastermind behind Intergang in addition to Skeets.

Though the motivation makes sense in a way. Mr. Mind is getting rid of time travellers so his plan won't get stopped.
also, i think our favorite little talking caterpillar is much more a "tool" of Intergang thana "mastermind" of Intergang.

[NeoSamurai]

HE'S NOT SKEETS!!!!!!:p
catepillars can be time travelling robots too.:mad:

[chap22]

catepillars can be time travelling robots too.:mad:
it just makes no sense at his point in the story. we have Mr. Mind connected to Intergang, the Adam Family, the Sivanas (and ooooooooooo, i would not want to be that family when BA comes a'callin'...), Oolong Island, the "Monster Society"...

how in the world is he connected to Skeets, Booster, and Rip, who have had no association with Intergang or the rest of that plot-line whatsoever throughout? i STILL say Skeets is being run solely by the brain patterns of one Maxwell Lord. JLI connection, OMAC connection, trying to muck up histories to screw up the "super-heroic Age" connection, etc.

[munkeypunk]

Damn...I was sure Mr. Mind was controlling Isis somehow.

[punjeb]

Theory throw out for discussion off the top of my head:

How about this....Mr. Mind could have "evolved" into Egg Fu?

[NeoSamurai]

it just makes no sense at his point in the story. we have Mr. Mind connected to Intergang, the Adam Family, the Sivanas (and ooooooooooo, i would not want to be that family when BA comes a'callin'...), Oolong Island, the "Monster Society"...

how in the world is he connected to Skeets, Booster, and Rip, who have had no association with Intergang or the rest of that plot-line whatsoever throughout? i STILL say Skeets is being run solely by the brain patterns of one Maxwell Lord. JLI connection, OMAC connection, trying to muck up histories to screw up the "super-heroic Age" connection, etc.

Sivana was experimenting with Suspendium on Mr. Mind. Originally, Suspendium just kept people in suspended animation. I'm thinking that Mr. Mind was suspended up to Booster's time when he emerged, his cocoon returned to the past (because he's being affected by suspendium) and he was left in the future. From there, he constructed a Skeets and used it as a disguise to travel back in time with Booster. And according to Hunter, Skeets is supposed to be responsible for WWIII (the charts and whatnot). So, I'm thinking he's going after the time travel guys to protect his own investment.

I'd agree with you about the Maxwell Lord aspect except for one factor--there really hasn't been anything that could suggest Lord as a mastermind of some sort in this arch. A lot about Skeet's behavior being bad.

Of course--the same could be said about Mr. Mind as Skeets except for Mr. Mind has been a presence throughout the story.

[rwe1138]

So, I'm assuming that the statues Black Adam got thrown through were of his dead wife & sons, correct?

[Ace]

Why get us invested in characters only to see them thrown away.

Because they start like this. "We have purpose A for character B. How do we get there?"

and then they go "Well we can create characters C and D, and then use them to enhance the story of character B. But in order for it to have meaning, the audience really has to character about characters C and D, just like character B does."

and it's valid. It's funny, but it seems a lot more valid than what Marvel does. You should appreciate this.

DC kills Ted because people loves him and it'll make for a more powerful story. Marvel will kill the New Warriors because they figure no ones cares and they can remake them to be better.

You can agree with it or not, but it's pretty easy to see where they're coming from.

The bigger question is this: Is it working?

Maybe it's because I've read it as spoilers, or because we knew Black Adam would snap, but I'm not at that point yet where i want him to beat the ____ out of intergang. And he's been one of my favorite characters since Johns brought him back into the JSA. And I was definitely emotionally invested in Osiris and Isis.

I guess maybe I can't look past the waste, just like I can't look past the waste of Vic in order to enhance Montoya's story.

A Question and Answer book would have been worth more to me than a Montoya driven by Vic's death.

And I think Osiris being a beacon of light and hope in the DCU would have meant more to me than Black Adam having reason to completely and utterly tear ____ apart.

[NeoSamurai]

And I think Osiris being a beacon of light and hope in the DCU would have meant more to me than Black Adam having reason to completely and utterly tear ____ apart.

I dig what you're saying. There's not enough pure good characters like Isis was in the DCU. It would've been a nice addition.

[Terrorbyte]

Pure and good is boring and dumb. Conflict is the driving force behind a good story.

[chap22]

Pure and good is boring and dumb. Conflict is the driving force behind a good story.
but there are different types of conflict, my friend. external conflict can drive a story just as well (or better, in some cases) as internal conflict can.

[NeoSamurai]

but there are different types of conflict, my friend. external conflict can drive a story just as well (or better, in some cases) as internal conflict can.
and imo, that was one of the strengths of 52 with Black Adam--he was struggling with the internal conflict that Isis created within him.

That's a very powerful story there and the consequences can be world shattering.:(

[IvCNuB4]

That would still make it Week 43, Day 6. There'd still be 2 full days before Week 44, Day 1.

D'oh ! I was looking at a work calendar (5 Business Days) :D



I'm still not clear whether Isis is dead for real, or whether she just turned back into Adrianna and gave up being Isis. Oh well, I guess I'll read it this evening.
.

Isn't the point that once she turns back to human Adrianna, the poison that was sprayed on her as Isis kills her ?

[Michael Hawk]

With this series, I would've been more suprised if Isis and Osiris lived.

[gma2darescue]

Who has a list of everyone who has died in 52 so far? Count them even if they "came back"

Animal Man
Booster Gold
Osiris
Question
Ralph Dibny

who else??

[chap22]

Who has a list of everyone who has died in 52 so far? Count them even if they "came back"

Animal Man
Booster Gold
Osiris
Question
Ralph Dibny

who else??
Terra-Man
countless members of Luthor's Everyman Project

[Evil Twin]

Captain Comet
Lady Styx
Persuader
Kite Man

[Thunderstorm]

I loved having Isis back... damn you DC. :(

[chap22]

Captain Comet
Lady Styx
Persuader
Kite Man
Mirage was whacked in the Kite-Man murder too.

[Justice dp]

D'oh ! I was looking at a work calendar (5 Business Days) :D


But in a 5.2 we were told that not every "day 1" is a Monday, it's simply the first day of the issue. So the theory would still work that the event Isis and Adam talk about happend only moments/hours before week 44 starts.

[Spade]

I think they may bring Isis and Osirus back based on the mythology of the namesakes.

Sucks that they kill Isis but Batwoman lives.

[anghus]

Mirage was whacked in the Kite-Man murder too.

Waverider
The Time Guy in the hourglass who tied right before Waverider (Time Commander?)

And Booster Gold didn't really die.

[PrimalSlayer]

Well she is part of the Bat family now so she cant die.

I would rather have Isis as a new charecter and part of a new family rather then Batwoman just so we can add more charecters to eh bat family, but now the family is filled out. Batman/Nightwing/Robin/Batgirl/Batwoman/Oracle to a certain extent.

We started out with BlackAdam being by himself and ruthless, now we are ending with BlackAdam and being ruthless. Letting him keep his family and see how it develops over the years would have been great, and Isis could have had some great interaction with charecters like WonderWoman. But ohwell.

[sexyjesus]

I totally agree, you nailed it. What kills me is characters like the (Vic Sage) Question have had little chance to prove they can gain an audience after (in the Q's case) getting such great exposure on JLU. So they give him a shot only to kill him.

Weird decision-making.

BSmith
Not really weird when no one has been buying anything with him in them for quite a while.

[bsmith]

Not really weird when no one has been buying anything with him in them for quite a while.


Ah, but that's my point. Aside from the Veitch-written Wildstorm version of The Question, when has he been put out for sale since that Huntress miniseries years back?

JLU had not only fans, but some high-profile creators (Gail Simone, Bruce Timm to name 2) excited about writing the Vic Sage Question. Not to mention Greg Rucka, who somehow thought that meant he should kill him to further Montoya's story...


BSmith

[vbartilucci]

Well she is part of the Bat family now so she cant die.

Tell that to Spoiler.

[PrimalSlayer]

Wasnt she a replacement for Robin? They had to get Tim back in the mantle somehow.

Or was she also his girlfriend? And he has a thing for death taking people close to him.

[Disco Cookie]

Well, here's an example of how comics can deal with horrible material in a responsible way. Violence and death has consequences and choosing a path of violence brings its own results, as we can see. Ripping TerraMan in half seemed meaningless but it's all been connected. BA is such a sad character - I both despise him and admire him. Brilliant story - heartbreaking.

Thanks mazingman - as always, great spoilers.

[summerland26]

Normally I do not place the previous issue’s ending, but there might be something with the time/date being as last issue ended with the death of Osiris on day 5 but this issue picks up right from there on day 1. Is this a “Time is broken” moment or an editorial error?

Could it be because it came out in February and it has a few less days?

[gwangung]

Why get us invested in characters only to see them thrown away. Can they not tell an intense, emotional story without having to kill everyone and there brothers? I would think that as professional writers, they would have tools, skills, and experience enough to figure something out. Yes, I know that they "did their job" by getting us to care, but what now? Where do the fans of Isis and Osiris and the Question, and Ralph Dibny, and Ted Kord go now? You are limiting your stories and your readers interest by eliminating the very characters that we have grown to love. Does anyone else see what is wrong with death in comics anymore?

Don't be foolish.

If you AREN'T invested in the characters, then they're just cannon fodder. And you'd be screaming at DC for creating characters you don't care about.

And thematically...this is a classic tragedy. Where Black Adam makes a bad decision, tracing back to his flaw. It basically couldn't have turned out any other way, story wise.

[Caramuru]

One of the best things about 52 is how it has established early on that some really bad things were going to happen to the characters, the readers knew really bad things were going to happen to the characters and we are gripped by how things will play out rather than the ordinary mystery and shocking revelations. We knew Isis was going to die (we didn't know for sure, but it was very likely), and yet we grew to care about the character knowing she didn't have a future, pitied Black Adam's life after her death, and still hoped against our best judgments for a happy ending. Sometimes it's just more rewarding to know from the beginning where the writer is leading us than to be surprised by an outcome.

[crood]

Normally I do not place the previous issue’s ending, but there might be something with the time/date being as last issue ended with the death of Osiris on day 5 but this issue picks up right from there on day 1. Is this a “Time is broken” moment or an editorial error?

Could it be because it came out in February and it has a few less days?


No matter what month it is, a week still has seven days.

[Captain Cosm]

Well... that body was pretty well decayed for an overnight sort of thing, wasn't it? Isn't it possible the body sat out for a while, and the magic lingered in Sobek's stomach until digestion completed?

...I feel icky.

[mrbones]

this sounds like a REALLY good issue, im gonna have to wait an extra day to get it, which sucks, but i cant wait.
im frickin hating the renee story. i honestly read it and think 'whats the point'. sure they are getting more diverse with gender and sexuality, but when they do this at the expense of characters that have ridiculous potential like vic sage DEFINITELY did after JLU (he could have become the constantine or something of the DCU....constantine is SO not doing anything in DC recently!)
I hope they change Steels armor after the Luthor fight to make him way more unique and less of a superman wannabe (starting with the symbol. iron man doesnt need a symbol, you just know its him)
I like the space story overall. and i hope we get word from Ralph sometime soon, i didnt like this character before, but 52 and Justice (that was a killer scene) have made me pretty interested.

I like The Big S and the cape on Steel. Keep It!

[NeoSamurai]

Well... that body was pretty well decayed for an overnight sort of thing, wasn't it? Isn't it possible the body sat out for a while, and the magic lingered in Sobek's stomach until digestion completed?

...I feel icky.

That's what I'm thinking. Or at least Sobek kept him alive for awhile while he fed.

All in all an excellent issue which makes me side with Black Adam.

[Captain Cosm]

Ultimately, the rationalization doesn't really matter-- it's just one of the more unfortunate weaknesses of the weekly "real-time" format. It's hard to build up suspenseful week-ending conclusions like that without creating some continuity problems, and it stresses suspension of disbelief to have something important happen at 11:59 Day 7 every week. I believe Mr. DiDio said that Countdown was structured differently because of things like this.

[enediol]

52 has really ramped up in action lately. Great Issue - I can't wait to see how Black Adam handles his loss and I'm glad to see Renee Montoya take the first steps as ?.

[God-Man]

Well, we more or less now know how and why WWIII starts, and you know, I kinda want Black Adam to win. I certainly sympathize with Adam, as he lost both Isis and Osiris back to back. One thing is for sure, I can't wait to see what hell Black Adam reins upon Intergang and the rest of the world.

[hadez]

Ah, but that's my point. Aside from the Veitch-written Wildstorm version of The Question, when has he been put out for sale since that Huntress miniseries years back?

JLU had not only fans, but some high-profile creators (Gail Simone, Bruce Timm to name 2) excited about writing the Vic Sage Question. Not to mention Greg Rucka, who somehow thought that meant he should kill him to further Montoya's story...


BSmith

Quoted for truth.
Even though I absolutely love 52, I hate that Vic Sage is dead :mad:

[diana_fan]

I am so rooting for Black Adam in this upcoming total ass-kicking. Man, you absolutely have to feel for the guy. He tries and tries to reform, to see the world in a different way ... and BOOM! it's all taken away from him.

This was another is a string of simply fantastic issues of 52. Ever since Week #40, they have been in high-gear. I just wonder if there is yet another gear to go to (and I guessing the answer to that question is "Yes").

Damn ... Isis. I knew she was not long for this world, but she was a damned fine character. And hot, not afraid of going with the Aussie cleavage look, which gets points from me, too. And she dies, having lost all of her hope for mankind, which, well, sucks. She died in despair.

Oh, Black Adam is SO gonna bring it. And I'll be cheering him every step of the way.

Renee ... Renee ... you poor, confused girl you. I can't wait to see what happens with her next week.

Damn, 52 is just all kinds of awesome. Oh, and I loved the art this week. Second week in a row where it was really, really sharp.

Only eight weeks left! Even with Countdown, I'm gonna miss this book something terrible. I can't wait to read them all in a row.

[Mr_Thorpe]

Damn, Black Adam. :( I'm rooting for him to tear ____ up, but the rest of the DCU will probably take his upcoming killing spree differently.

[neodragzero]

Man, what happened with BA and Isis was messed up.:( I felt bad that she died and I have to say that even though her dying wasn't a big surprise it was quite emotional for her to give in to despair like she did. BA still definitely kicked some serious ass this issue and I look forward to the payback mass destruction he will unleash.:mad:

This part of 52 has always been and continues to be fave part of 52. Where without it I wouldn't have much reason to care about this weekly series.

[gwangung]

I am so rooting for Black Adam in this upcoming total ass-kicking. Man, you absolutely have to feel for the guy. He tries and tries to reform, to see the world in a different way ... and BOOM! it's all taken away from him.

This was another is a string of simply fantastic issues of 52. Ever since Week #40, they have been in high-gear. I just wonder if there is yet another gear to go to (and I guessing the answer to that question is "Yes").

Damn ... Isis. I knew she was not long for this world, but she was a damned fine character. And hot, not afraid of going with the Aussie cleavage look, which gets points from me, too. And she dies, having lost all of her hope for mankind, which, well, sucks. She died in despair.

Oh, Black Adam is SO gonna bring it. And I'll be cheering him every step of the way.

Obviously, this shows that all this death is useless and not needed to tell a good story, right DC?:D

[JAGII]

Well, here's an example of how comics can deal with horrible material in a responsible way. Violence and death has consequences and choosing a path of violence brings its own results, as we can see. Ripping TerraMan in half seemed meaningless but it's all been connected. BA is such a sad character - I both despise him and admire him. Brilliant story - heartbreaking.

Exactly. The Black Adam storyline has been, up until this point, far and away my least favorite. In particular, I hated the over-the-top violence associated with the character, like the Terra Man incident you mention, and chalked it up to Geoff Johns' penchant for sensationalist gore.

But this issue actually moved me. I felt myself cheering for Black Adam when he a hold of Sobek's mouth and wanting to see him make the Monsters pay, while the same time lamenting his regression.

The pay-offs in the story have been excellent so far.

[KyleCowstar]

Does anyone else think Ralph and Sue will be alive in issue 52?

[diana_fan]

Does anyone else think Ralph and Sue will be alive in issue 52?

I don't. But I do think we will see htem together in Paradise before the series is over. I also think that Ralph will end the series alive.

If they are working off of Dante, then Sue should be Ralph's guide through Paradise.

[RolandGunner]

Violence and death in comic books don't bother me if done in a way that builds the story. Osiris last week was a great example of this. It built the enemy up and gave the hero motivation. Isis' death didn't work as well for me.

While her grief and anger may be understandable, having your last act be to send out an unstopable killing machine on the world is far from heroic. Plus it pushes Black Adam back into the bad old ways you spent months taking him away from.

[Captain Cosm]

While her grief and anger may be understandable, having your last act be to send out an unstopable killing machine on the world is far from heroic.

The forces that grant Isis her powers agree.

[mpdfuzz]

If no one mentioned it...

Everyman makes an appearance in Manhunter, as the one playing the part of Ted Kord.

Again, dead means dead, kinda sorta, well,, never really

[diana_fan]

If no one mentioned it...

Everyman makes an appearance in Manhunter, as the one playing the part of Ted Kord.

Again, dead means dead, kinda sorta, well,, never really

Unless I mis-remember, it was never clear that Everyman was dead, was it?

[Kenro]

Hot damn, there will be hell to pay. Black Adam lost everything... AGAIN! I think the 4H were dispatched a bit too easily but it got the point across: Adam is pissed and whatever humanity he gained during his time with Adrianna is officially gone. She pretty much gave him her blessing to stop chewing bubble gum and start kicking ass.

[Captain Cosm]

Hot damn, there will be hell to pay. Black Adam lost everything... AGAIN! I think the 4H were dispatched a bit too easily but it got the point across:

Great, now I'll envision those hardass abominations of science as environmentally-conscious Boy Scout and Girl Scout ripoffs....

[Miracloman]

One thing is for sure, I can't wait to see what hell Black Adam reins upon Intergang and the rest of the world.

Judging for the look on BlackAdam's face on that last panel afther Isis's death,I would not be Intergang's mailman for all the money of the world.

[rwe1138]

I don't. But I do think we will see htem together in Paradise before the series is over. I also think that Ralph will end the series alive.

If they are working off of Dante, then Sue should be Ralph's guide through Paradise.
That would be a nice end to Ralph's 52 journey: his "dying" just to be able to briefly go to the other side to guide Sue to her final peace.

[Starlord]

Just finished reading this and this is probably my favorite issue to date. I think a lot of people knew what was going to happen with Iris, but it didn't make it any less heart wrenching for me.

The end with Renee was alright, but the Adam stuff was powerful! There is a bad moon a rising, folks!

[IvCNuB4]

So, I'm assuming that the statues Black Adam got thrown through were of his dead wife & sons, correct?

Right. And bringing Adam full circle. He lost his first family to war. Now he's lost his second family the same way ....


Unless I mis-remember, it was never clear that Everyman was dead, was it?

In Week 40 he looked dead after falling through 3 or 4 floors, and laying in a pool of blood. But he was never pronounced dead. Maybe the powers he absorbed from Skyman healed him ?

[diana_fan]

In Week 40 he looked dead after falling through 3 or 4 floors, and laying in a pool of blood. But he was never pronounced dead. Maybe the powers he absorbed from Skyman healed him ?

Well, I've fallen from over 20 feet onto concrete, and I was fine if a bit scraped up. So, I'm guessing a super-hero could survive that fall. :)

[reichsmark]

I cant believe that they killed off Isis aswell, it wouldve been nice to see some new charecters past 52 but ofcourse they have to get killed off.
I've suspected from the beginning, and the apparent return of the multiverse seems to support, a major twist near the end. Mayby its this Deadworld another poster at D.C. has theorised where everybody is still alive. But I feel something is coming and you may get your wish for Isis and other deceased to still be alive. The Question is will you like what you get?

[summerland26]

Well, I've fallen from over 20 feet onto concrete, and I was fine if a bit scraped up. So, I'm guessing a super-hero could survive that fall. :)
I fell about the same. Face planted onto concrete. Cautionary tale about climbing chainlink fences when you're drunk. I wouldn't say I was "fine" persay but I'm far from dead. I reckon Everyman could've survived.

I haven't picked up Manhunter yet. What was the reasoning for why Everyman was pretending to be Ted?

[Bevbos]

Man.... as a Marvel Zombie who has been following 52 'cause I like the concept, I just have to say, good work. Weeks ~1-10 were great, and then the next ~30 weeks had me saying at times, "Do I REALLY need this on my pull list?" But the last 4 issues have just knocked it out the park. Everything is coming home now. And I'm thinking about putting Countdown on my pull list, if the same team is involved...

and as for THIS issue specifically, MAN am I glad to see the Namo... er, Black Adam family DEAD. Isis, Osiris... great plot devices, boring characters. Very nice to see Isis in particular bite the dust. "Adrianna..." lovely closing line. Go get 'em bloody, Black Adam!

[cncoyle]

Great issue, even if it was very, very sad for Black Adam.:(

Has anyone posited the theory that Renee won't become The Question, but instead will become The Answer? The comments about her not taking his place make me think that's what's coming. Plus, as I recall (issue is at home), the word "answer" was thrown around a bit in their conversation.

[punjeb]

I don't know how my mind connected this, but it just hit me. All these deaths in 52, all the changes. Imagine, if you will, that Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman were still around this year. Would these deaths and the causes behind them have happened? Or did the Big 3s absence result in these situations? Wouldn't have Clark put a stop to the Cult of Conner? Would Manheim had been able to build a foothold in Gotham (and establish the Church of Crime) if Bruce has there and in the cape & cowl.? Had the World's Finest been operating, would they have investigated the missing scientists, thus the prevention of the creation of the 4 Horsemen? Would Wonder Woman befriend Isis and thus Black Adam? Etc., etc.

Maybe "52, a year without Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman" was more than a catch phrase. Maybe it was a warning.

[Timberoo]

It really sucks that they brought Isis in just to kill her off. Osiris I'm not that torn up about.

[Proud Texan]

adrianna is dead, but I won't be surprised if the Mighty Isis has a new host in the DCU in the near future. It would be interesting to see Black Adam's interactions with his wife's successor.

[diana_fan]

Maybe "52, a year without Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman" was more than a catch phrase. Maybe it was a warning.

I think, to some degree, that's true.

OTOH, I believe that these things happened because the villains realized that Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman weren't around. So, it's a bit circular.

And, the heroes of 52 are doing a job which none of the Big 3 could have done, really. Take Ralph, for example. Or Renee. Those aren't situations that Superman or Batman or Wonder Woman would find themselves in. And that's the absolute beauty of 52: we get to see these others doing the job, solving the mystery, taking down the bad guy, saving the world.

[diana_fan]

I fell about the same. Face planted onto concrete. Cautionary tale about climbing chainlink fences when you're drunk. I wouldn't say I was "fine" persay but I'm far from dead. I reckon Everyman could've survived.

Well, I managed to keep my head from hitting the ground, so I was A-OK. Just bruised. And yeah, I was drunk too, at the time. Not surprisingly.

I haven't picked up Manhunter yet. What was the reasoning for why Everyman was pretending to be Ted?

He had a boss who he mentions, but is not revealed. So, it's not 100% clear. But obviously the idea was that if Ted is alive, then Diana killed Max for nothing. It will all play out in #30.

[crood]

I don't know how my mind connected this, but it just hit me. All these deaths in 52, all the changes. Imagine, if you will, that Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman were still around this year. Would these deaths and the causes behind them have happened? Or did the Big 3s absence result in these situations? Wouldn't have Clark put a stop to the Cult of Conner? Would Manheim had been able to build a foothold in Gotham (and establish the Church of Crime) if Bruce has there and in the cape & cowl.? Had the World's Finest been operating, would they have investigated the missing scientists, thus the prevention of the creation of the 4 Horsemen? Would Wonder Woman befriend Isis and thus Black Adam? Etc., etc.

Maybe "52, a year without Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman" was more than a catch phrase. Maybe it was a warning.

I think it's a "yes and no" type situation. Superman would probably have taken the lead against Luthor and the Everyman project. The New Year's Eve massacre probably wouldn't have happened since Lex did it because he was upset about Supernova. Even with Superman gone there was still someone getting his press. Also, Steel might have stayed retired and not given Natasha such a hard time.

The cult of Conner wasn't really that big of a deal, like the Superman cult that existed awhile back. It's possible Superman might have talked Ralph out of pursuing the issue. Although Clark was certainly available for consultation, and Ralph didn't bring him along with the other "resurrected" heroes to the ceremony.

Bruce probably would have fought Intergang, but it's still possible they'd have gained a foothold in the wake of Black Mask's death. It's not like Batman's ever been able to stop organized crime in Gotham. However, he probably would have slowed their progress and put on more pressure.

Investigations into the missing scientists is a bit tricky. You'd think someone might have realized that all these guys in the same place is not a good thing, even without the trio. I have to put this down to the typical reactionary nature of superheroes. They rarely act until after the bad guys attack. This would be no different.

I don't see any reason why Wonder Woman and Isis would have had any reason for any special contact. Diana would have been busy with her legal situation, building her new life, and her normal activities. Black Adam has recently been the JSA's problem, so any contact would more likely come through them.

[roshambo]

hmm...Renee becomes the new Isis, not the new Question. ;)

just a thought...

[diana_fan]

hmm...Renee becomes the new Isis, not the new Question. ;)

just a thought...

That would put Black Adam in an awkward position, no? :)

[gwangung]

Great issue, even if it was very, very sad for Black Adam.:(

Has anyone posited the theory that Renee won't become The Question, but instead will become The Answer? The comments about her not taking his place make me think that's what's coming. Plus, as I recall (issue is at home), the word "answer" was thrown around a bit in their conversation.

Huh. Interesting thought. Would people still be as pissed if Renee was a No Face, but took the nom de plume of The Answer?

(I STILL don't think it was the right way to go with the character, but...)

[chap22]

Has anyone posited the theory that Renee won't become The Question, but instead will become The Answer? The comments about her not taking his place make me think that's what's coming. Plus, as I recall (issue is at home), the word "answer" was thrown around a bit in their conversation.
only if she gets to steal this pimpin' costume from Marvel!

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/60930948398.93.GIF


:D

[vbartilucci]

Two good things (among many) about this issue:

Renee is hesitating to put on the mask. That's good, they're remembering that she doesn't really trust supers, she just trusted Vic. She may just use Vic's kick-ass techniques without using the mask and gas. I think calling her "The Answer" is a little silly, but no less silly than My idea of calling her "La Pregunta".

Once again, Black Adam has a massive story, following up the wonderful things they did with him in JSA. He's trying to redeem himself, and he keeps getting crapped on by the world. And he falls back to violence and anger. I'm very pleased he'll be seen in some fashion in Countdown.

I don't. But I do think we will see htem together in Paradise before the series is over. I also think that Ralph will end the series alive.


I've made my demands clear - I want Ralph and Sue together, safe and happy. "Alive" is not a requirement.

The more I think about it, the more plausible my Clever Theory that Ralph's wish was "I wish this was all Sue birthday present to me" gets. Not only did he figure out that it was Faust behind the whole plot, he had time to figure out who Supernova was.

Unless I mis-remember, it was never clear that Everyman was dead, was it?
Well, I'm betting it's hard to kill a shapeshifter, just change into something soft and durable as you hit the ground. Or just survive the fall and shift all your bones and organs back together

[gwangung]

Well, I'm betting it's hard to kill a shapeshifter, just change into something soft and durable as you hit the ground. Or just survive the fall and shift all your bones and organs back together

Kinda goes with the territory, if you think about it. Think of a somewhat less elastic Plastic Man (which is what a shapeshifter is)....a fall doesn't necessarily kill a shapeshifter...

[Caramuru]

Huh. Interesting thought. Would people still be as pissed if Renee was a No Face, but took the nom de plume of The Answer?

(I STILL don't think it was the right way to go with the character, but...)

I think Renée as The Question is a dumb idea. I think her as The Answer is not any better. I'm not pissed about it, but I think it's a waste of two good characters and a lame conclusion to a good storyline. She spends 44 weeks on a quest to discover herself and ends up assuming someone else's identity, and that's justified because two people told her she should and her dead friend would have wanted it? That's the lamest legacy character origin I've ever read.

[Timberoo]

Let's go all out and just have Renee Montoya call herself Que?

[Caramuru]

Hah! :D <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa>

[bob_at_york]

good issue. Although I would like to see a better artist on the book. The artist for this issue was too plain.

[diana_fan]

good issue. Although I would like to see a better artist on the book. The artist for this issue was too plain.

Oh man. Dissin' my man Eddy? *sigh*

Barrows is awesome!

[IvCNuB4]

I like Eddy's art !

[gwangung]

Let's go all out and just have Renee Montoya call herself Que?

Oh, now THAT'S funny. :D

[Groovie Mann]

I like Eddy's art !

as do i. him and bennett have bene my two fav thus far. the final scene with black adam in it was the most powerful page he has done thus far.

[Stazz]

Did anyone else get an Indiana Jones vibe from when Renee got the hat?:D

[bob_at_york]

Did anyone else get an Indiana Jones vibe from when Renee got the hat?:D
not me....... nope.

[bcondray]

It really sucks that they brought Isis in just to kill her off. Osiris I'm not that torn up about.


i don't know if you meant that as a bad pun or not but..


ugh....:D

[Timberoo]

i don't know if you meant that as a bad pun or not but..


ugh....:D

that was an unintentional bad pun - this time :D

[Bullrunner]

I've made my demands clear - I want Ralph and Sue together, safe and happy. "Alive" is not a requirement.

The more I think about it, the more plausible my Clever Theory that Ralph's wish was "I wish this was all Sue birthday present to me" gets. Not only did he figure out that it was Faust behind the whole plot, he had time to figure out who Supernova was.




I've been thinking about Ralph's wish, as well. There are lots of things he could have wished for:

That Sue was alive

That Jean had never gone nuts

That Jean had never been born

That Ray had been more willing to get back together with Jean in the first place

That he could be with Sue, wherever she was

That he could at least have a chance to say goodbye to Sue

OR maybe that there was a world where Sue had never died.........

Maybe the multiverse exists now because Ralph wished it into existance.

[d0dg3r]

Man, this series is paying off BIG in the home stretch.

Sorry to see Isis go, and sorrier to see her encourage Adam to go back to his old ways with her dying breath. Sad, but believable and well-written. Those who were insisting "BLACK ADUHM SHOULD B3 4 BADAZZ!!!!!11!1!!!1!!ONE!ELEVEN!!" here and there on the intarwebs should be satisfied, though. And it should make for a "ripping" yarn! (Sorry. :o )

Not thrilled with Renee taking over for Vic but you could see it coming down Main Street for months. Mixed emotions on that at best. I loved both characters. I hate losing Vic, and Montoya in a mask, albeit reluctantly...? Not sold on it yet.

And count me as one who still thinks there's a talking butterfly controlling Skeets. It could be someone/something else but there hasn't been the first hint that Max Lord's anywhere near this series. To bring him in at this point with everything barreling toward the finish line would be a little cheap.

[mybotisgone]

What's there to say another good issue. A little F up but still good.

[I am MODOK]

See what they've done? Black Adam was best as a noble thinking vengeance obsessed hero. vowing never again at any cost. And 52 softened him, let us think he was changing, heck, he was a changed man. AND HE WAS WRONG. The world needs those bad asses out there smashing evil, and now BA can get right back to it, more angry and empowered than ever. I pity the next villain who tries to stand up to him.

He pasted those horsemen, man, he's bad ass!

[I am MODOK]

good issue. Although I would like to see a better artist on the book. The artist for this issue was too plain.

I agree. Eddy Barrows' art did not carry the same weight as Jurgens' did last week. I think they could have timed this a little better.

[bob_at_york]

I agree. Eddy Barrows' art did not carry the same weight as Jurgens' did last week. I think they could have timed this a little better.
don't even get me started on jurgens.

[catman]

No surprise: another great issue of 52.

[Amethyst Rose]

Well, I managed to keep my head from hitting the ground, so I was A-OK. Just bruised. And yeah, I was drunk too, at the time. Not surprisingly.



He had a boss who he mentions, but is not revealed. So, it's not 100% clear. But obviously the idea was that if Ted is alive, then Diana killed Max for nothing. It will all play out in #30.


She didn't kill him because of Ted, she did it because he still had control of Superman. She wouldn't have killed just for vengeance.

[diana_fan]

She didn't kill him because of Ted, she did it because he still had control of Superman. She wouldn't have killed just for vengeance.

No I understand that. But the people had just the edited tape, and a story that Max Lord was a murderer. If Ted was alive, it was a major hit to Diana's defense.

Clearly, she killed Max because of rogue Superman. But she didn't want to tarnish the 'S'. That's Diana for ya'.

[GCarbone]

OK THATS IT! Im getting 52 no matter how late I am. Black Adam is what interests me in DC.

Black Adam is great. You should pick up the last two issues of 52 and the next issue as well. As far as back story, the simple version is (I WILL NOT PROVIDE ANY SPOILER ON THE LAST TWO ISSUES, WHERE THE ____ HAS HIT THE FAN, BUT I WILL PROVIDE SOME BACK STORY):

Black Adam was a hard nosed bastard who runs his own country, Kandaq. He is a dictator who is loved by his people and power by gods (wisdom, strength, stamina, power, courage, speed).

A criminal organisation called Intergang approached Black Adam with a business transaction whereby Intergang could smuggle weapones through his country. Let's just say he did not choose to do business with them (i.e. he killed them).

Intergang is organized along quasi-religious lines, complete with a "holy" text known as the Book of Crime, which treats Cain as a heroic, if not semi-divine, figure for his role according to Christian theology in creating the "most sacred" crime of murder. It has even been revealed that the original text is bound by the stone with which Cain slew Abel. The current head of Intergang, whom is also behind the kidnapping of many of the world's "mad scientists", plans to take over America by the end of the year. He shows himself now acting like a cult leader, exalting the power of crime as the dominant order in the 21st century. He is also a cannibal, eating anyone he kills who refuses to join Intergang. The group of their mad scientists have bio-engineered the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse, to assist in their war. (a bit of this was swiped from Wikepedia).

Meanwhile Black Adam has became softened by his love for a woman Isis, who he has shared the power of the gods with, and has become a father figure to her brother, Osiris, who he has also shared the power of the gods with. Osiris killed someone in a recent issue of 52, and the death has plagued him with guilt.

Intergang is not happy with Black Adam.

It's a great story that's about to explode

If you read 43 and 44 everything should pretty much make sense with this background.

[bob_at_york]

52 fans I thought I should just mention that a survivor from Infinity Inc. has appeared post-52!! Check out Manhunter #29 to find out who it is!!

[IvCNuB4]

Or just read pages 3 & 4 of this thread .....

[bob_at_york]

Or just read pages 3 & 4 of this thread .....
for Manhunter it deserves repeating. I love pimping the book.

[roshambo]

Now if only my beloved Pole Dancer would show up post-52....

[diana_fan]

Now if only my beloved Pole Dancer would show up post-52....

We all love Pole Dancer. I mean, how can you not?

[roshambo]

We all love Pole Dancer. I mean, how can you not?

a character that truly was past due. i mean, all the heroines usually dress up like pole dancers, anyway; why not have one with all the powers, abilities and erotic lure of one?:D

[diana_fan]

a character that truly was past due. i mean, all the heroines usually dress up like pole dancers, anyway; why not have one with all the powers, abilities and erotic lure of one?:D

Well said. :)

[Valkur]

Let's go all out and just have Renee Montoya call herself Que?

well done sir!