View Full Version : Who is the 11th member of the JLofA
unytis
03-06-2007, 01:28 AM
Sorry if there are already 13,000 threads about this already. Does anyone know who the 11th member of the JLofA is going to be?
leckomaniac
03-06-2007, 01:34 AM
I haven't seen any concrete info about who the 11th member is. However, I hope that issue #9 of The Flash was a clue. I would love to see Bart try to prove his worth in the JLA.
unytis
03-06-2007, 01:52 AM
I myself would like to see Flash on the team.
God-Man
03-06-2007, 02:01 AM
I think it's going to be Geo-Force. He's appeared in the last couple of issues of JLoA.
stiltman6969
03-06-2007, 02:06 AM
yeah i thought it was Geo-Force. it was revealed or whatever some time ago, and people gave the universal face of indifference. then nerds argued about why it was such a horrible decision and how their childhood was being ruined, and Meltzer doesn't respect the JLA.
unytis
03-06-2007, 02:17 AM
Who the hell is Geo-Force? I thought Batman said "No more tryouts" or something like that.
haldo
03-06-2007, 02:27 AM
then nerds argued about why it was such a horrible decision and how their childhood was being ruined.
Every now & then my girlfriend who's reading a book in the next room asks what the heck I'm laughing at while I'm on the internet, and I can't even explain it because it makes me look like an idiot for reading these furshluggineer (sp?) comic book boards.
But THAT'S FUNNY! Someone could post that on almost every thread on the 'rama, I'm sorry to say (and here I am promoting such a thing.... while reading.... those selfsame boards....):eek: :D
MartyGras
03-06-2007, 02:46 AM
Who the hell is Geo-Force? I thought Batman said "No more tryouts" or something like that.
He's not a tryout. He was on the original Outsiders (as in "Batman and the") back in the 80's. Hardly a newbie.
DBHughes
03-06-2007, 02:49 AM
As it turns out, the 11th member of the Justice League is YOU!
(Superman winks at the reader; Superboy punches the fourth wall)
Skyrider
03-06-2007, 02:50 AM
Who the hell is Geo-Force? I thought Batman said "No more tryouts" or something like that.
Batman also wants Bart on the team.
sexyjesus
03-06-2007, 02:52 AM
As it turns out, the 11th member of the Justice League is YOU!
(Superman winks at the reader; Superboy punches the fourth wall)
Jason Todd shoots my neck.
unytis
03-06-2007, 02:52 AM
As it turns out, the 11th member of the Justice League is YOU!
(Superman winks at the reader; Superboy punches the fourth wall)
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
WOooHOoo!
I'm sorry I have never heard of Geo-Force....ANYWHERE. I have been reading alot of DC the past five years, along with Idenity Crisis and Infinite Crisis and I can't recall his name popping up anywhere. What can he do? What is his story?
DBHughes
03-06-2007, 02:55 AM
I'm sorry I have never heard of Geo-Force....ANYWHERE. I have been reading alot of DC the past five years, along with Idenity Crisis and Infinite Crisis and I can't recall his name popping up anywhere. What can he do? What is his story?
You ever see Terra in Teen Titans? Maybe even her arc in the Titans cartoon? Well, Geo-Force is Terra's brother; same powers essentially.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geo-Force
jza1218
03-06-2007, 02:56 AM
I think it's going to be Geo-Force. He's appeared in the last couple of issues of JLoA.
I get the feeling that they're doing this just to kill him off and shock everyone
unytis
03-06-2007, 03:34 AM
I get the feeling that they're doing this just to kill him off and shock everyone
I hope so. I alread feel Vixen is a waste of space on the team anyway. My opinion of course.
greenman
03-06-2007, 03:58 AM
Its not the REAL league because its missing one member.
Violent Gorilla
03-06-2007, 05:06 AM
I get the feeling that they're doing this just to kill him off and shock everyone
I think the only shocking thing about it would be the resounding thud when it was realized that no one gave two craps about Geo Force. Or one crap for that matter.
Harbingerboy
03-06-2007, 05:07 AM
I get the feeling that they're doing this just to kill him off and shock everyone
Yup. <AAA>
Harbingerboy
03-06-2007, 05:08 AM
I think the only shocking thing about it would be the resounding thud when it was realized that no one gave two craps about Geo Force. Or one crap for that matter.
Yeah, but if my choices are 'in the League' or 'in the ground', I'm gonna go with worm food please.
greenman
03-06-2007, 05:09 AM
Yup. <AAA>will *anyone* be shocked if they kill off Reddy?
unytis
03-06-2007, 05:40 AM
will *anyone* be shocked if they kill off Reddy?
I don't think they would kill Reddy. He is usually with the JLofA when they are featured in other books such as Green Lantern. I have not seen this Geo Force guy anywher. I think that is a good sign he won't be the 11th member.
nietoperz
03-06-2007, 05:53 AM
From the last page if JSofA #1, it looks like the nex member IS going to be Geo-Force. I've always liked the character, but I'm not sure if he's a Leaguer...
jmcl89
03-06-2007, 07:50 AM
The League just seems to me like it should always have a Flash on it, so I think that's just a matter of time.
Timberoo
03-06-2007, 08:20 AM
The 11th member is someone who isn't still isn't going to be good enough for the people that insist this league sucks.
Starlord
03-06-2007, 08:22 AM
LOL! Now that is a QFT if ever I saw one. :)
greenflameuk
03-06-2007, 08:50 AM
Well in the last weeks Green Lantern #17 we saw:
Green Lantern
Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Red Arrow
Red Tornado
Hawkgirl
Black Lightning
Vixen
Black Canary
&
Geo Force
So i'm guessing that's the line up.
caats19
03-06-2007, 09:26 AM
well he's going to have a part in the jsa crossover. so i dunno if geo is gonna get killed
Gamma Duck
03-06-2007, 10:15 AM
A few quick points/thoughts:
1. Metzler has said Flash won't be in the League in an interview in Comic Buyers Guide.
2. The scripts have all already been completed and probably won't be changed based upon reader disinterest/dislike of Geo-Force.
3. With rumors of a new Outsiders reshuffling and Metzler's connection to Winnick, I wouldn't be surprised if Geo-Force went on to be a part of that (and maybe take Black Lightning with him).
KyleCowstar
03-06-2007, 10:15 AM
I love Geo Force. You guys are nuts.
AgentSaint
03-06-2007, 10:23 AM
The 11th member is someone who isn't still isn't going to be good enough for the people that insist this league sucks.
The 11th Member could be Jesus having risen from the dead and ready to wipe out all that is evil and people would still complain and be like, dude jesus is not martian manhunter. you have to have Martian Manhunter on the league or it isnt a league!
Guicho
03-06-2007, 10:25 AM
Well in the last weeks Green Lantern #17 we saw:
Green Lantern
Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Red Arrow
Red Tornado
Hawkgirl
Black Lightning
Vixen
Black Canary
&
Geo Force
So i'm guessing that's the line up.
Geoforce was not amongst the group who showed up to help Hal Jordan.
In fact everyone you list was there except him.
And he was not in GL#17 for the “damage control” either, again everyone was there except him.
Surprisingly in #17 Martian Manhunter was there.
greenflameuk
03-06-2007, 10:54 AM
Geoforce was not amongst the group who showed up to help Hal Jordan.
In fact everyone you list was there except him.
And he was not in GL#17 for the “damage control” either, again everyone was there except him.
Surpassingly in #17 Martian Manhunter was there.
Green Lantern #17, page 21, panel 1
You can quite clearly see a figure beside Red Tornado, and he's controlling the debris from the attack.
He kind of looks like Sandman when he's in his sand form, but with Geo Force's recent appearances in previous issues, i think it's probably him.
Vic Vega
03-06-2007, 10:58 AM
Hey, he fills in the "secondary strongman" requirement. Since the League needs a second strong guy for when Supes isn't around.
Makes sense to me.
J'onn's not getting in as long as Meltzer's writing this book. I can kinda sympathize with his viewpoint. A telepathic detective with super-strength pretty much wrecks any whodunit you try to plot.
Had J'onn been in identity crisis, the story would have been over in four pages.
caats19
03-06-2007, 10:58 AM
that whole league isn't the league without martian manhunter whining is really annoying
IvCNuB4
03-06-2007, 11:02 AM
Wasn't this spoiled by the last page of JSoA #1 (the future Arkham scene) ?
Timberoo
03-06-2007, 11:09 AM
The 11th Member could be Jesus having risen from the dead and ready to wipe out all that is evil and people would still complain and be like, dude jesus is not martian manhunter. you have to have Martian Manhunter on the league or it isnt a league!
Yes, I agree.
See, I was trying to talk about JLA and all I got was people yelling at me that 'so and so' needs to be in the league because they always have been, and DC wants to sell comics, and yadda yadda yadda.
The purpose and function of JSA within the context of the comics is clear - to lead and train the next generation and legacy, even if it doesn't quite seem to do that (IMO).
What is the purpose of the JLA within the context of the comics? Is it just a club for the 'big guns' to hang out?
Gamma Duck
03-06-2007, 11:19 AM
that whole league isn't the league without martian manhunter whining is really annoying
I find that to be true for most characters people complain about not being in the League. Personally, I think the concept of the "Big Seven" (and to a lesser extent, the "Big Three") is outdated at best.
It's cool to want a character on the team...there are lots of characters I want on the team...but to actually be so egotistical to think that the League isn't "THE League" because your own wishes aren't met is just kinda sad.
Guicho
03-06-2007, 11:22 AM
Green Lantern #17, page 21, panel 1
You can quite clearly see a figure beside Red Tornado, and he's controlling the debris from the attack.
He kind of looks like Sandman when he's in his sand form, but with Geo Force's recent appearances in previous issues, i think it's probably him.
That is Sandstorm of the Global Guardians. Geo Force is not there, he does not become sand.
But look at issues 15-16 you can see Sandstorm in action.
It is worth noting that the entire JLA cast is there except Geo Force, and that instead it is Martian Manhunter who is shown working with them.
Vic Vega
03-06-2007, 11:22 AM
Yes, I agree.
See, I was trying to talk about JLA and all I got was people yelling at me that 'so and so' needs to be in the league because they always have been, and DC wants to sell comics, and yadda yadda yadda.
The purpose and function of JSA within the context of the comics is clear - to lead and train the next generation and legacy, even if it doesn't quite seem to do that (IMO).
What is the purpose of the JLA within the context of the comics? Is it just a club for the 'big guns' to hang out?
The JLA is the Elite Metahuman Strikeforce that protects the Earth.
The Titans were the hangout club as I remember. Why they exist now, I haven't a clue.
There was a REASON that the JLA and JSA were on separate Earths. It hard to say that one of those teams as it stands now isn't redundant.
crood
03-06-2007, 11:54 AM
The 11th Member could be Jesus having risen from the dead and ready to wipe out all that is evil and people would still complain and be like, dude jesus is not martian manhunter. you have to have Martian Manhunter on the league or it isnt a league!
So it wasn't a League for over a decade, is that what you're saying? J'onn wasn't there at all for the satellite era, so I guess that famous incarnation wasn't really the League. There was no League during the 70's. Good to know. I guess someone should have told Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash, Aquaman, Green Arrow, Atom, Hawkman, Hawkwoman, Elongated Man, Red Tornado, Black Canary, Zatanna, andn Firestorm that they weren't really in the Justice League of America.
I suppose the pre-Morrison Leagues led by Superman and Wonder Woman weren't the League, either.
Now the guys in Detroit were the real Justice League because they had J'onn, not Superman and the rest.
Uchiha_Prodigy
03-06-2007, 12:14 PM
Wow what a team...
Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Hal Jordan
Black Canary
Red Arrow
Black Lightning
Hawkgirl
Vixen
Geo-Force
Red-Tornado
So that's 3 former Outsiders. Why oh why did Meltzer insist on including characters no one cares about? Seriously, Vixen? Geo-force?
caats19
03-06-2007, 12:17 PM
i think meltzer has a good balance to this team. the mega popular down to the normal type. this is just fine with me.
longshot7
03-06-2007, 12:25 PM
I prefer the big 7 lineup to this one, but there's no way either the new Flash or the new Aquaman are ready for this team. I prefer Green Arrow to Arsenal but what you gonna do? Unlike other superteams, the JLA should be like an all-star team - not a collection of characters that don't have their own books.
caats19
03-06-2007, 12:27 PM
big 7 is my fav team too, but i want some new styles to be added, so this i like a lot.
crood
03-06-2007, 12:43 PM
I prefer the big 7 lineup to this one, but there's no way either the new Flash or the new Aquaman are ready for this team. I prefer Green Arrow to Arsenal but what you gonna do? Unlike other superteams, the JLA should be like an all-star team - not a collection of characters that don't have their own books.
That means that during one period during the satellite era the League would have consisted of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and The Flash. After all, even Green Lantern was cancelled for a time. Aquaman, Atom, Hawkman, and J'onn have a history of title cancellations. Heck, J'onn never had his own title until a mini-series in the late 80's.
NeoSamurai
03-06-2007, 12:44 PM
Geo-Force ain't gonna be a member--he's not American and has different objectives than America which is contrary to the concept of the JL of A (A= America). As a ruler of his own country, it makes more sense for him to jump ship to the Outsiders with Black Lightning. Surprisingly, I think the JLA will be the team that the Outsiders end up going against that was hinted at several months ago.
jza1218
03-06-2007, 01:18 PM
Geo-Force ain't gonna be a member--he's not American and has different objectives than America which is contrary to the concept of the JL of A (A= America). As a ruler of his own country, it makes more sense for him to jump ship to the Outsiders with Black Lightning. Surprisingly, I think the JLA will be the team that the Outsiders end up going against that was hinted at several months ago.
Wonder Woman ain't American.
NeoSamurai
03-06-2007, 01:19 PM
Wonder Woman ain't American.
Who's Diana Prince working for, again?
Vic Vega
03-06-2007, 01:21 PM
Geo-Force ain't gonna be a member--he's not American and has different objectives than America which is contrary to the concept of the JL of A (A= America). As a ruler of his own country, it makes more sense for him to jump ship to the Outsiders with Black Lightning. Surprisingly, I think the JLA will be the team that the Outsiders end up going against that was hinted at several months ago.
That "of America" bit could be done away with IMO. Even in the Silver Age you had Martian Manhunter and Aquaman who weren't Americans (S.A. Superman and Wonder Woman considered themselves Americans).
I have no problem with the line up outside of a few minor quibbles (John Stewart over Hal and Connor Hawke over Roy).
Considering that in the Satellite Era, you had character who never had a book (Elongated Man, Zatanna, Black Canary) getting more play than characters that did (Firestorm, Supergirl), I find the A-list/B-list arguement kinda moot.
jza1218
03-06-2007, 01:21 PM
Who's Diana Prince working for, again?
Don't matter. She still ain't American. She had to have Bruce forge documents for her.
NeoSamurai
03-06-2007, 01:27 PM
Don't matter. She still ain't American. She had to have Bruce forge documents for her.
she's more in synch with America than Geo-Force is. She's also an American agent. So, I think that makes her more qualified for JL of America than Geo-Force who still has obligations to his own country as one of its rulers. In addition to that, the global emphasis that DC is pushing also makes it unlikely for Geo-Force to go into the political aspects of joining a team called the Justice League of America.
jza1218
03-06-2007, 01:29 PM
she's more in synch with America than Geo-Force is. She's also an American agent. So, I think that makes her more qualified for JL of America than Geo-Force who still has obligations to his own country as one of its rulers. In addition to that, the global emphasis that DC is pushing also makes it unlikely for Geo-Force to go into the political aspects of joining a team called the Justice League of America.
Icemaiden was a member of the JLA too
NeoSamurai
03-06-2007, 01:44 PM
Icemaiden was a member of the JLA too
and Fire and Rocket Red
But that was then.
The new shape of world politics in the DCU makes such alliances unlikely.
If it wasn't for the fact that most of the World has been focused on the superhuman issue, I'd agree. The fact that the US has the JLof A and JS of A and US&FF means that a lot of countries are going to work on creating their own teams or co-opting exisitng ones (ala Rocket Reds, Global Guardians, China's team--I forgot what they're called) as a counterbalance.
jza1218
03-06-2007, 01:59 PM
and Fire and Rocket Red
But that was then.
The new shape of world politics in the DCU makes such alliances unlikely.
If it wasn't for the fact that most of the World has been focused on the superhuman issue, I'd agree. The fact that the US has the JLof A and JS of A and US&FF means that a lot of countries are going to work on creating their own teams or co-opting exisitng ones (ala Rocket Reds, Global Guardians, China's team--I forgot what they're called) as a counterbalance.
What does that have to do with this discussion though?
You merely stated that Geo-Force shouldn't be in the JLA because of him not being American. That has nothing to do with the international relations of the DC Universe. Just some fickle attitude about who deserves to be in the group or not.
Meanwhile Superman and Martian Manhunter are aliens. Wonder Woman is of Greek origin. Aquaman is/was the king of Atlantis etc.
Mr Wesley
03-06-2007, 02:12 PM
The JLA is the Elite Metahuman Strikeforce that protects the Earth.
The Titans were the hangout club as I remember. Why they exist now, I haven't a clue.
There was a REASON that the JLA and JSA were on separate Earths. It hard to say that one of those teams as it stands now isn't redundant.The JSA stands to mentor and train the younger generation of heroes. Now, that is a similar purpose to the current titans, but I think that's more due to Geoff Johns writing both teams than anything else.
NeoSamurai
03-06-2007, 02:16 PM
What does that have to do with this discussion though?
You merely stated that Geo-Force shouldn't be in the JLA because of him not being American. That has nothing to do with the international relations of the DC Universe. Just some fickle attitude about who deserves to be in the group or not.
No. you said that. I said because of his status as a leader of another country that it would not work for him to be a member of an American team, so switch to decaf and quit the dickery.
Meanwhile Superman and Martian Manhunter are aliens. Wonder Woman is of Greek origin. Aquaman is/was the king of Atlantis etc.
Again--different times and politics. World politics is playing a big part in the DCU even if you choose to ignore it.
PS: Superman is raised American and embraces American ideals.Despite his claim to be a citizen of the world, he's still seen as an American by most of the world.
Vic Vega
03-06-2007, 02:24 PM
The JSA stands to mentor and train the younger generation of heroes. Now, that is a similar purpose to the current titans, but I think that's more due to Geoff Johns writing both teams than anything else.
At the beginning of John's run the Titans were a defacto training academy with Cyborg, Starfire and Changeling as advisors. That went by the wayside pretty quick as nobody tells Robin and Superboy what to do except Batman and Superman.
After reading the last four issues of the book I couldn't tell you what the Titan's purpose was. This is one of the reasons I rarely pick up the book.
pseudonym?
03-06-2007, 02:39 PM
will *anyone* be shocked if they kill off Reddy?
No. I'll be shocked if they don't bring him back to life a few issues later, though.
jza1218
03-06-2007, 03:04 PM
No. you said that. I said because of his status as a leader of another country that it would not work for him to be a member of an American team, so switch to decaf and quit the dickery.
Again--different times and politics. World politics is playing a big part in the DCU even if you choose to ignore it.
PS: Superman is raised American and embraces American ideals.Despite his claim to be a citizen of the world, he's still seen as an American by most of the world.
Geo-Force ain't gonna be a member--he's not American and has different objectives than America which is contrary to the concept of the JL of A (A= America). As a ruler of his own country, it makes more sense for him to jump ship to the Outsiders with Black Lightning. Surprisingly, I think the JLA will be the team that the Outsiders end up going against that was hinted at several months ago.
I also don't really see this "dickery" that you mention.
Simply because someone is stating something contrary to what you are doesn't mean you need to throw a hissyfit. You made it pretty evident that your emphasis was on the "of America" part of JLA
NeoSamurai
03-06-2007, 03:18 PM
I also don't really see this "dickery" that you mention.
by dismissing my justifications and rationale despite it being initially said.
Simply because someone is stating something contrary to what you are doesn't mean you need to throw a hissyfit.
I mentioned GeoForce will not be JLoA because he's not American and leader of a foreign nation. (implication of politics)
You countered with Wonder Woman.
I responded by putting the ball in your court to realize that she is an American Agent.( another implication of politics)
You argued that she's not an American and has false IDs
I explained that she was an American Agent (and assumed you understood the implications of such)
You reiterated that there are non-American members in past incarnations of the JL. I agreed and added more to that list. Then I said the politcal landscape was different.
you argued what does that have to do with anything--dismissing my arguments and saying that "I" focused on the "american" aspect when it was very evident I did not.
at that point I realized you were just looking for a fight (as you are now and as is your usual pattern for people who you disagree with), and called you out on it.
You made it pretty evident that your emphasis was on the "of America" part of JLA
no--that's what you want the discussion to be about despite what the initial post said.
Geo-Force is not American.
Geo-Force is a leader of a foreign Nation.
That is why Geo-Force should not be in the JLofA. That is why he should take Black Lightning and join the outsiders.
That was my argument. I'll admit, I left much to the assumption about the political landscape of the DCU with Checkmate, Global Guardians, China's super-team, the Outsiders and national boundaries to readers.
NeoSamurai
03-06-2007, 03:21 PM
That "of America" bit could be done away with IMO. Even in the Silver Age you had Martian Manhunter and Aquaman who weren't Americans (S.A. Superman and Wonder Woman considered themselves Americans).
missed this in my initial pass.
i agree. it should be done away with like it was in the 90s. "Justice" should have no borders.
Carter101
03-06-2007, 03:28 PM
I think Geo Force will be awesome to have as long as he is stable, the whole costume is already on him when he gets out of shower is. um...well, differnt but o well. It just kinda feels like the Batman and the outsiders team is coming back together, but what the crumb i'll waste my college food money on it anyways. Yay! JLA
bc
jza1218
03-06-2007, 03:33 PM
by dismissing my justifications and rationale despite it being initially said.
I mentioned GeoForce will not be JLoA because he's not American and leader of a foreign nation. (implication of politics)
You countered with Wonder Woman.
I responded by putting the ball in your court to realize that she is an American Agent.( another implication of politics)
You argued that she's not an American and has false IDs
I explained that she was an American Agent (and assumed you understood the implications of such)
You reiterated that there are non-American members in past incarnations of the JL. I agreed and added more to that list. Then I said the politcal landscape was different.
you argued what does that have to do with anything--dismissing my arguments and saying that "I" focused on the "american" aspect when it was very evident I did not.
at that point I realized you were just looking for a fight (as you are now and as is your usual pattern for people who you disagree with), and called you out on it.
no--that's what you want the discussion to be about despite what the initial post said.
Geo-Force is not American.
Geo-Force is a leader of a foreign Nation.
That is why Geo-Force should not be in the JLofA. That is why he should take Black Lightning and join the outsiders.
That was my argument. I'll admit, I left much to the assumption about the political landscape of the DCU with Checkmate, Global Guardians, China's super-team, the Outsiders and national boundaries to readers.
Dude...you really need to stop being so defensive.
Simply because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean that they're "looking for a fight"
And again, being "American" isn't a pre-requisite to being a member of the JLA. Neither does being leader of a foreign nation prohibit someone from joining as well. And Wonder Woman was a member of the JLA even before she was an American agent.
And it was pretty evident that you were emphasizing the "of America" angle. Why else would you point out the obvious "A=America" part of JLA?
NeoSamurai
03-06-2007, 03:43 PM
Dude...you really need to stop being so defensive.
Simply because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean that they're "looking for a fight"
there's disagreement--then there's what you did which is telling me what I am and am not saying when it's pretty clear what I did say.
And again, being "American" isn't a pre-requisite to being a member of the JLA. Neither does being leader of a foreign nation prohibit someone from joining as well.
Not what I'm saying. JLoA can invite ANYONE to join their club. However, the appelation "of America" implies American affiliation. The political landscape of the DCU as it stands is somewhat tenuous in the fact that most other countries cannot boast about having as large a number of supers as DCU US. China has recognized this and compensated. The whole concept of Black Adam and what happens during WWIII is a major factor for this international tension. A leader of a foreign power like Geo-Force could find it detrimental for his country to be associated as like a satellite of the US because of an association with the JLoA. It would imply that he(as prince) or his country is a pawn of the US, an ally or satellite territory. All would be bad because GeoForce would have to defend Markovia from foreign powers interested in attacking the US--despite the only connection being GeoForce a member of a superhero social club that associates with America.
Again--it's the politics more than anything else.
Now, that part you could disagree with for all I care, but my point is it isn't just because he's not "American".
NeoSamurai
03-06-2007, 03:49 PM
And it was pretty evident that you were emphasizing the "of America" angle. Why else would you point out the obvious "A=America" part of JLA?
:rolleyes: nevermind that it might be the fact that a Justice League that associates itself with America might be perceived bad by foreign powers/foreign heroes--hence the emphasis. again--I'm looking at it from impact on DCU international politics
like I've broken down for you like eight or nine posts already?
jza1218
03-06-2007, 03:51 PM
there's disagreement--then there's what you did which is telling me what I am and am not saying when it's pretty clear what I did say.
Dude...you really need to stop trying to feel so persecuted...
Not what I'm saying. JLoA can invite ANYONE to join their club. However, the appelation "of America" implies American affiliation. The political landscape of the DCU as it stands is somewhat tenuous in the fact that most other countries cannot boast about having as large a number of supers as DCU US. China has recognized this and compensated. The whole concept of Black Adam and what happens during WWIII is a major factor for this international tension. A leader of a foreign power like Geo-Force could find it detrimental for his country to be associated as like a satellite of the US because of an association with the JLoA. It would imply that he(as prince) or his country is a pawn of the US, an ally or satellite territory. All would be bad because GeoForce would have to defend Markovia from foreign powers interested in attacking the US--despite the only connection being GeoForce a member of a superhero social club that associates with America.
Again--it's the politics more than anything else.
And as I've said before, the "of America" implies American affiliation, but that doesn't mean that they've held that to be their sole loyalty.
It's really looking too much into it IMO to assume that Meltzer won't include Geo-Force because of the word "America" in the team's name.
Hell, I already stated that I think he's going to be cannon fodder, but not being American or even being a head of state hasn't limited others from being members. Even in this post-IC world.
As stated before, Wonder Woman is a member. While she is/was (?), an American agent as Diana Prince, NOBODY knows of this outside of her small circle.
jza1218
03-06-2007, 03:52 PM
:rolleyes: nevermind that it might be the fact that a Justice League that associates itself with America might be perceived bad by foreign powers/foreign heroes--hence the emphasis. again--I'm looking at it from impact on DCU international politics
like I've broken down for you like eight or nine posts already?
And as I've stated before, it's not the first time the Justice League has associated with America.
Frankly, it just seems boring to make that an issue again as it's been done before in other incarnations of the league. Hell, they just did a storyline like that in JLA Classified.
holtom2000
03-06-2007, 03:56 PM
I get the feeling that they're doing this just to kill him off and shock everyone
if they need a member for a meaningless death, might I suggest Firestorm?
jza1218
03-06-2007, 03:58 PM
if they need a member for a meaningless death, might I suggest Firestorm?
Hahaha...I'd prefer to see that annoying girl Misfit from Birds of Prey kick the bucket
NeoSamurai
03-06-2007, 03:59 PM
JZA, it's obvious at this point we should just agree to disagree.
Kebab Gud
03-06-2007, 04:00 PM
Hahaha...I'd prefer to see that annoying girl Misfit from Birds of Prey kick the bucket
Misfit might yet grow to become a cool character.. its a bit too soon to kill her i think
jza1218
03-06-2007, 04:02 PM
JZA, it's obvious at this point we should just agree to disagree.
Whyd you edit the post?
jza1218
03-06-2007, 04:03 PM
Misfit might yet grow to become a cool character.. its a bit too soon to kill her i think
Eh...she's just become annoying to me.
Kinda like when bad writers force Jimmy Olsen into a scene simply because he "needs" to be around.
NeoSamurai
03-06-2007, 04:03 PM
Whyd you edit the post?
because it really is not worth it. you do whatever.
jza1218
03-06-2007, 04:06 PM
because it really is not worth it. you do whatever.
OK...:confused:
Salieri
03-06-2007, 04:19 PM
Steve Rogers. He gets shot to death in Marvel, and wakes up in DC, with no memory, in a bed with a rather satisfied, sleeping Diana Trevor.
Kent Horton
03-06-2007, 04:23 PM
Geo-Force ain't gonna be a member--he's not American and has different objectives than America which is contrary to the concept of the JL of A (A= America). As a ruler of his own country, it makes more sense for him to jump ship to the Outsiders with Black Lightning. Surprisingly, I think the JLA will be the team that the Outsiders end up going against that was hinted at several months ago.
Vixen's an African native.
Geo-Force is confirmed to be on the JLA for at least as long as the JLA/JSA crossover.
avengingtitan
03-06-2007, 04:34 PM
Who the hell is Geo-Force? I thought Batman said "No more tryouts" or something like that.
Geo's been around since the 80's.
He was on Batmans Outsiders back in the day. He's the king of his own country and the brother of Terra.
Mr_Thorpe
03-06-2007, 09:14 PM
Geo-Force ain't gonna be a member--he's not American and has different objectives than America which is contrary to the concept of the JL of A (A= America). As a ruler of his own country, it makes more sense for him to jump ship to the Outsiders with Black Lightning. Surprisingly, I think the JLA will be the team that the Outsiders end up going against that was hinted at several months ago.
That's total BS.
Superman is Kryptonian.
Wonder Woman is Greek.
Vixen is African.
Two key members of the League ain't American. I just ignore the "of America" bit because it's contradictory.
NeoSamurai
03-06-2007, 09:27 PM
That's total BS.
My opinion. Clarified more so in later posts.
Superman is Kryptonian.
Wonder Woman is Greek.
Vixen is African.
none of them really associated with a particular earth government. Geo-Force is.
Again, my opinion.
Mr_Thorpe
03-06-2007, 09:36 PM
You make it sound as if America owns the League. As far as I can remember, the League isn't "associated" with or loyal to any Earth government.
NeoSamurai
03-06-2007, 09:59 PM
You make it sound as if America owns the League. As far as I can remember, the League isn't "associated" with or loyal to any Earth government.
comic fans know this.
DCU populace don't.
rwe1138
03-06-2007, 10:32 PM
Steve Rogers. He gets shot to death in Marvel, and wakes up in DC, with no memory, in a bed with a rather satisfied, sleeping Diana Trevor.
Well, it kinda worked for Barry Allen...;)
Kent Horton
03-06-2007, 10:45 PM
My opinion. Clarified more so in later posts.
none of them really associated with a particular earth government. Geo-Force is.
Again, my opinion.
It doesn't matter, Geo Force is still pretty much confirmed to be on the team.
Johnny Triangles
03-06-2007, 11:09 PM
I get the feeling that they're doing this just to kill him off and shock everyone
Or maybe Melter wants to have him raped.
Johnny Triangles
03-06-2007, 11:14 PM
You make it sound as if America owns the League. As far as I can remember, the League isn't "associated" with or loyal to any Earth government.
If America was getting attacked by another government, which side do you think they'd take?
I'd say they have more loyalty to the American government than any other, even if they don't officially represent America.
IvCNuB4
04-11-2007, 02:09 PM
I'm beginning to wonder if the mystery 11th member is Karate Kid (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=108367) ....
Kebab Gud
04-11-2007, 02:17 PM
no Number 11 is Geo-Force..
need proof? here is the JLA and most of the JSA
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h209/7p7/hotness.jpg
In the last run of JLA they aggred to have 12 members.. i wonder if that still stands..
Skyrider
04-11-2007, 02:20 PM
I'm beginning to wonder if the mystery 11th member is Karate Kid (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=108367) ....
I'd prefer Karate Kid over GeoForce.
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