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Steve Christ
02-03-2007, 05:19 PM
Rating:A-
Almost Perfect

Wonder Woman

MPAA Rating: Unavailable
Reviewed by: El Mayimbe - 02.03.07

WONDER WOMAN
Screenplay by Matthew Jennison and Brent Strickland
Story by Matthew Jennison, Brent Strickland and Kevin Shawley
Based on the DC Comics characters created by William Moulton Marston
130 pages

OYE MIRA!

EL MAGNIFICO MOFACKIN’ MAYIMBE HERE!

Welcome to our Super Bowl Edition Superhero Spec Spotlight! The last time we did one of these was on Batman Begins.

But first about that J.J. Star Trek thing…

After all, I said it is just a rumor, but folks, as Public Enemy sang famously back in the days – DON’T BELIEVE THE HYPE! That rumor is picking up steam in the business community here in Hollywood – hence why I reported it to Ronnie Adams. There is something really fishy going on over there on Melrose.

The trades say one thing, then the next day something else happens.

Case in point – WONDER WOMAN!

Warner Bros. buys this excellent spec script (which we will preview for you shortly) and says something along the lines of committing to Whedon’s contemporary version, then the very next day Whedon is off the project!

Just like I suspected. Why would you take a spec off the market when you own the rights already? I never bought this protection from liability jibberish that the trades were spoon-feeding us.

See why you can never trust the trades! See la comemierderia!

My goodness it is Black Superhero Friday or what? First Whedon is off Wonder Woman, and now David Goyer is off The Flash!

Que carajo is going on over there in Burbank?

Anyway, in regards to Wonder Woman – the spec that Silver picked up ROCKS!
A fun filled adventure packed girl power action movie in the 1940s!

1943 to be exact. Just where this character belongs.

Now I know ya’ll are not here to hear my rants in colloquial Spanglish so let’s get to it and preview the first act.

We open with QUEEN HIPPOLYTE and her THREE THOUSAND AMAZON WARRIORS all clad in battle armor and bracelets.

We pull back even further and FIFTY THOUSAND MEN, all armed for war, advance on the Amazon.

In VOICEOVER HIPPOLYTE tells us that they were created to guard against the evils of the world. Strong, wise, and compassionate, Hera gave breath to the AMAZON. In the ancient days, they lived among Mankind…but Man fears what it cannot control. Man sought to take the power of the Amazon but doing so would have destroyed Man’s World.

Hippolyte erupts in a battle cry and the Amazon charge forward, meeting the army of man head on.

The action is fierce. The Amazon are superior warriors, but the numbers of Man’s army are too great and the Amazon take heavy casualties.

Hippolyte further tell us that to protect the world from such devastation they would do anything. Even flee.

We next see Hippolyte leading twenty Amazon ships into the open ocean. An Armada is in hot pursuit. She further tells us that they sailed forth without a destination, guided only by their faith.

Hera heard her prayers.

Hippolyte steers her ships toward a Heavenly star and the Amazon make it past the storm, which engulfs man’s ships towards – THEMYSCIRA. Hippolyte finishes her voiceover by telling us that Themyscira has been The Amazon’s home for three thousand years, a place where they could live in peace, hidden from the world of man.

After the credit sequence over a montage of military imagery showing the history of mankind’s warfare growing even deadlier, we open in 1943 Germany and meet

STEVE TREVOR (30)

A tall, handsome son of a senator but made it on his own American in a Nazi SS disguise, snaps photos of Nazi Jet blueprints that look incredibly advanced for the 1940s.
The words “AMERIKA BOMBER” and FLEISCHER GESELLSCHAFT” appear on the bottom of each design. Steve discovers that the Nazis are going to bomb Washington D.C. and New York.

Steve’s cover is blown and gets chased by the Nazis. He makes it to the Nazi hangar and steals a Nazi jet, which looks more like a stealth bomber than a WWII era plane. It’s the Amerika Bomber from the blueprints.

He navigates it out of there as the Nazis open fire on the jet. He flies over the Ocean and is leaking fuel. He makes it through the clouds and head towards a tropical island.

THEMYSCIRA.

A majestic city hugs the coastline and stretches up into the mountains. Its architecture is a mix of Greek Temples and Elaborate Towers standing watch over the gleaming streets.

A huge coliseum stands in the center of the city, its rim decorated with statues of the Grecian gods.

We descend into a long street-level tunnel that empties into the arena floor. At the end of the tunnel we see the silhouette of a young woman – DIANA.

She takes a deep breath and places a helmet overhead obscuring her face before we see it. She enters the coliseum and wears a black skirt of leather strips and a GOLDEN BREASTPLATE with the form of an eagle, wings spread. Her bodice and leather boots are both DARK RED.

Thousands of Amazons in colorful robes fill the stands. A cheer rises as the red Amazon warrior moves to the center of the ring, where another masked Amazon waits, and this one in dark green – she is PHILLIPUS.

Four challengers remain to determine the strongest and best suited to find their sister, GALINA. Hera’s choice will soon be revealed.

We then get some super cool girl on girl gladiator action – DIANA VS PHILLIPUS.

It is no secret who wins. Then we get WHITE (ARTEMIS) vs BLUE (ODIA).

Artemis wins, then gets disqualified from the final round and doesn’t fight Diana.

Diana, her face still covered, kneels before Hippolyte on the coliseum floor and has proven herself the greatest warrior of the Amazon. Now it is her duty to return to Man’s world and find Galina.

She removes her helmet and for the first time we see her. She is barely twenty; she’s beautiful, with long black hair and just like her mother – HIPPOLYTE.
Hippolyte has a fit. She forbade Diana from partaking in the contest. Hippolyte orders her to go to the palace.

Steve meanwhile crashes into a forested park in Themyscira. Diana runs into Steve and they meet. Diana saves Steve’s life and frees him the wreckage. Steve then gets arrested by the Amazon. Hippolyte and her entourage appear on a hover chariot.

Hippolyte takes Diana on the hover chariot. Here we learn that Galina was sent to Man’s world to ensure that Pandora’s Box is secure but she apparently went missing hence the contest for an Amazon warrior to go find Galina. Phillipus, who Diana beat in the contest, is going to man’s world to find Galina much to the dismay of Diana. Mother and daughter get into an argument.

Steve is taken to the Senate Hall. Hippolyte puts the GOLDEN ROPE around Steve and he tells the truth. The Amazon doesn’t believe him, they think man captured Galina and stole the Amazon technology. Steve is sentenced by the senate to death.

We then find out that the Amazons protect the key – a crystal that hangs on Hippolyte’s neck. If man came into possession of Pandora’s box and the key - it would be catastrophic.

Diana rescues Steve from his cell. She also steals a GOLDEN BELT – the belt of Aphrodite, which allows an Amazon to walk in disguise among men. Diana also steals a GOLDEN ROPE – Hestia’s Golden Lasso, which is unbreakable and any whom it binds, must speak the truth.

Diana and Steve make their getaway from Themyscira on you guessed it – THE INVISBLE JET.

Diana controls the jet with the GOLD TIARA with RUBY STAR on it. It resembles Hippolyte’s crown but is shaped to lie flat across the forehead.

On page 34 – Steve and Diana race out of Themyscira – cross the first threshold – and head back to Washington.

End Act 1

Like I said, the script rocks. We of course get Diana repelling Nazi bullets with her bracelets and she beats the ____ out of Nazi bad guys by the dozens. She has the strength of ten men.

For those fans concerned about her outfit – no worries.

When she finally makes her debut as Wonder Woman on page 86, her Wonder Woman outfit is a combination of her Amazon battle gear and the American flag, the costume we all know as Wonder Woman but slightly more combat ready. SHE LOOKS HOT!
The first part of the 2nd half of Act 2 (the test, allies, and enemies stage) takes place in Washington and of course Nazi bad guys (to good effect in this script) and double agents – Threshold Guardians – keep Steve and Diana busy.

The 2nd part of Act 2 takes place in Berlin as Diana and Steve intensify their search for Galina.

The 3rd Act and battle royale finale takes place back on Themyscira as the Amazons and their hover chariots fight a fleet of the Nazi Amerika Bombers as the main villain, who is revealed late in the game (which I won’t spoil) goes all out for the key on Hippolyte’s neck. The 3rd act is wall-to-wall action.

Overall, a very great read. The writers did their homework. As a comic book character origin movie - it is just as good as Batman Begins.

I can see why Silver supposedly took it off the spec market. If I was a betting man, I figure this is the origin story that Warners might stick with. My note to the studio is to not touch the script, leave it intact, get yourself a good director and shoot this script. It is all there on the page.

Spec Screenwriting 101

My only beef with the script, which could have shaved 10-15 pages off the thing, is the overuse of CONTINUED at the top and bottom of the script, which is OFF LIMITS in a spec, and the use of German dialogue then it’s subtitled English counterpart. When you write any language, either below the character’s name, or as in vogue today, next to the character’s name – use a parenthesis (in German, with English subtitles) then the English dialogue. It is a waste of space and lines and supremely redundant to include foreign dialogue, which a reader can’t understand anyway only to translate it right after. Damn noobies. Read David Trottier’s books! One of my pet peeves about specs. I ____ you not, I know readers who pass on bad screenplay format no matter how good the story is.

Anyway, who do you guys pick as Wonder Woman?

My top choice would have to be Rachel McAdams and then Jessica Biel second.

I think the role of Hippolyte, Diana’s mother, is tailor written for Catherine Zeta Jones.

Check back real soon to see my next spec script spotlight by a very famous writer/director. He is some guy who heard voices.

Until then, enjoy the game!

In the meantime, I am looking for the following scripts – RUG EATER by Miguel Arteta, and John Ridley’s L.A. RIOTS. You got ‘em? Email me.

HASTA EL PROXIMO CAPITULO…

…YO SOY EL MAYIMBE!

http://www.latinoreview.com/scriptreview.php?id=48It sounds awesome.

Admittedly, I'm not that for a WW period piece (I'd much prefer a Cap movie set in WW2), but I'm not picky, and am really open to anything if it's good...and that sounds really good. Apparently two unknowns did what Whedon couldn't.

God-Man
02-03-2007, 05:27 PM
That sounds fantastic.

New Way
02-03-2007, 05:30 PM
I'm not a big fan of the Whole Nazi fighter Wonderwoman thing. I feel that the new movie should help bring her into the modern age more. :)

but I guesse this is a product of Wonderwoman not having any real villians that can sustain a movie.

Delta Ass
02-03-2007, 05:31 PM
See, this is why I don't read Latino Review.

I don't speak Spanish.

Steve Christ
02-03-2007, 05:35 PM
I'm not a big fan of the Whole Nazi fighter Wonderwoman thing. I feel that the new movie should help bring her into the modern age more. :)That's wonderful, but - despite your personal preferences - what do you think of this script?

New Way
02-03-2007, 05:41 PM
That's wonderful, but - despite your personal preferences - what do you think of this script?

It's simply okay

I'm beginning to get the same feeling about this Wonderwoman movie that I got about Superman Returns.
They will give me a average movie when I wanted an above average one.

Steve Christ
02-03-2007, 05:46 PM
It's simply okay

I'm beginning to get the same feeling about this Wonderwoman movie that I got about Superman Returns.
They will give Average movie when I wanted an above average one.
You're retarded.

In any case,
I, like most, would've preferred, and expected, a Wonder Woman movie taking place in modern times, but, at the same time, there's a certain...majesty that goes with period pieces. While it hasn't happened yet, I'd go crazy for a Batman movie set in the Noir-ish '40s, a Spider-Man movie set in the '60s, etc.

There's just something special about the decades these great characters were created in, and this script seems to highlight all the great things about Wonder Woman, Greek Mythology, and the time period of the '40s.

From the sounds of that review, I would be perfectly happy if Silver left it exactly the way it was, went out and got a good director, and made a great movie out of it. It's made me more excited about a Wonder Woman movie than I've ever been.

NikDrou
02-03-2007, 05:50 PM
I'm not the biggest Wonder Woman fan, there is some fundamental flaws in her set-up, but I still can't help but love her and I want to see a good movie made that doesnt short-change her. When I heard the script was set in WW2, it set off some alarm bells in my head. It seemed like they were leading it down to a nostalgic, kitchy retread of the TV show, which would make sense as it's what the average person would associate her with, plus you could include all the sillier aspects of her mythology (like the invisible jet and, yes, her outfit) without worrying about 'making it work' in a more serious approach. Also, that MySpace link to the prospective stuntwoman in the Wonder Woman costume doing martial arts made me cringe, as to me it's just as stupid as having Superman do Kung Fu...

Saying that though, I'm glad the script has had a positive reaction and that they're incorporating much of the often confusing Amazon backstory in it. However, the above review didnt quite answer the following questions:

Will she fly?

Will she have strength almost to the equivalent to Superman?

The answer to those will almost certainly be no, for budget reasons if anything else. If that's genuinely the case, then I'm sorry but I have absolutely no interest in the Wonder Woman movie.

KSChris
02-03-2007, 05:52 PM
You're retarded.
For having an opposing viewpoint, clearly he must be!

astronato
02-03-2007, 05:53 PM
Isn't Wonder Woman immortal? Couldn't the sequel bring her into modern times?

I like the idea of the Amazons guarding Pandoras Box. Is that part of the WW mythos or is that new?

Sounds like it would be a fun movie to me.

How do we know the review is legit?

Steve Christ
02-03-2007, 05:56 PM
For having an opposing viewpoint, clearly he must be!
Actually, not at all. People love to fall back on that excuse when I decide to insult someone, but it's really much more than that. It's not just about what their opinion is, it's about how they state it, and how knowledgable they are about what they're talking about.

Steve Christ
02-03-2007, 05:57 PM
Isn't Wonder Woman immortal? Couldn't the sequel bring her into modern times?

I like the idea of the Amazons guarding Pandoras Box. Is that part of the WW mythos or is that new?

Sounds like it would be a fun movie to me.

How do we know the review is legit?
Latino Review's a very reliable website.

The last big scoop they had was Ledger being cast the Joker...and obviously turned out to be true.

Steve Christ
02-03-2007, 06:00 PM
Will she fly?

Will she have strength almost to the equivalent to Superman?

The answer to those will almost certainly be no, for budget reasons if anything else. If that's genuinely the case, then I'm sorry but I have absolutely no interest in the Wonder Woman movie.Why are those two rather small factors so important to you?

I mean, I want them both, of course, but, at the same time, the most important thing to me is always the quality of the script, and acting, and general production.

To dismiss all of those (IMO, at least) very important factors in a film just because Wonder Woman doesn't fly in the picture...really doesn't make sense to me. Personally.

d0dg3r
02-03-2007, 06:11 PM
Will she have strength almost to the equivalent to Superman?


It says

She has the strength of ten men.

so I'm thinking no.


This sounds like it's a good script IMO, but I'd also prefer to see Wonder Woman brought into the modern era.

SouthtownKid
02-03-2007, 06:12 PM
I understand people wanting a contemporary WW, but honestly, without World War II, I've never been able to understand the motivation for her to leave Paradise Island. Is she just bored? That's not a great motivation to hang a plot on. She needs some kind of WW2-level threat to make her leaving worthwhile.

God-Man
02-03-2007, 06:14 PM
You're retarded.

In any case,
I, like most, would've preferred, and expected, a Wonder Woman movie taking place in modern times, but, at the same time, there's a certain...majesty that goes with period pieces. While it hasn't happened yet, I'd go crazy for a Batman movie set in the Noir-ish '40s, a Spider-Man movie set in the '60s, etc.

There's just something special about the decades these great characters were created in, and this script seems to highlight all the great things about Wonder Woman, Greek Mythology, and the time period of the '40s.

From the sounds of that review, I would be perfectly happy if Silver left it exactly the way it was, went out and got a good director, and made a great movie out of it. It's made me more excited about a Wonder Woman movie than I've ever been.

I think a period piece works better with Wonder Woman than with a character like Superman or Batman. Those 2 characters are deeply rooted in contemporary times, but I think a character like Wonder Woman transcends that.

In any case, they can still take the basic premise of that script and put in a modern setting. I think that a Superhero period piece would be very cool, and different from any other comic book movie that was released in the last decade.

NatePetrelli
02-03-2007, 06:14 PM
Sounds awesome,love the portrayal of WW as a warrior,instead of just another do gooder in tights.

NatePetrelli
02-03-2007, 06:15 PM
and let's see this for the outfit...

http://everythingdcu.bravehost.com/Wallpaper/Wonder%20Woman%20Partying%20New%20Fronti er.jpg

God-Man
02-03-2007, 06:15 PM
They could add an epilogue to the movie that shows WW in the modern times, still living among humans.

Steve Christ
02-03-2007, 06:18 PM
I think a period piece works better with Wonder Woman than with a character like Superman or Batman. Those 2 characters are deeply rooted in contemporary times, but I think a character like Wonder Woman transcends that.

In any case, they can still take the basic premise of that script and put in a modern setting. I think that a Superhero period piece would be very cool, and different from any other comic book movie that was released in the last decade.
You don't think a period piece works well with Batman? I think a Batman Noir film would be amazing. B89 was sorta noir-ish in terms of art design, etc.

NikDrou
02-03-2007, 06:26 PM
Why are those two rather small factors so important to you?

I mean, I want them both, of course, but, at the same time, the most important thing to me is always the quality of the script, and acting, and general production.

To dismiss all of those (IMO, at least) very important factors in a film just because Wonder Woman doesn't fly in the picture...really doesn't make sense to me. Personally.

Would you say those were 'rather small factors' in the case of a Superman movie? If Superman didnt fly in a movie, regardless of the quality of the script, direction and acting, it would be severely disappointing....in fact, it wouldnt really feel like a Superman movie at all.

To me, Wonder Woman is the closest female equivalent to Superman (yes, even more so than Supergirl). She's an ideal, a figure from our imagination that is capable of impossible wonders and does only good. The Wonder Woman I grew up with could fly. It was not a negotiable aspect to the character. Taking that away is short-changing her in the exact same way she was in the comics when stripped of her powers. I understand the reasons why they can't do that in the movie. I find them depressing, as they lead towards the idea that they do not trust the audience to accept a female character who is that powerful. When I sit in the Movie theatre and watch her do roundhouse kicks, block attacks that shouldnt damage her and struggle with weights she should be able to lift, it would be severely disappointing....in fact, it wouldnt really feel like a Wonder Woman movie at all.

Oh, and Wonder Woman should be played by an unknown.

Clem
02-03-2007, 06:29 PM
To be honest, i think i'd be more interested in hearing about Whedon's take that nobody liked, cos i just can't see myself hating something with that mans name on it.

I think the main stumbling block for Joss was probably the need to modernise it, which is all kinds of awkward and confusing. The new guys just did the obvious thing and set it when it makes sense.

Steve Christ
02-03-2007, 06:38 PM
Would you say those were 'rather small factors' in the case of a Superman movie? If Superman didnt fly in a movie, regardless of the quality of the script, direction and acting, it would be severely disappointing....in fact, it wouldnt really feel like a Superman movie at all.It would be pretty weird, yeah.

But, I would argue, Superman flying is very much what the character is about; he's the Super-Human. Can do everything a normal man wants to do, but can't; flying is one of those things.

Wonder Woman however, to me, at least, has always been a bit more sublime, a bit deeper. She's always been about female empowerment and female worth and equality. As long as she's strong, as long as she's tough, a warrior, and - most importantly - personality-wise, the best woman ever, she's Wonder Woman. Flying is great - like I said, I'll be disappointed if it's not in the film - but, at the same time, Wonder Woman is about more than that, Wonder Woman is a good enough character that she can survive with that aspect removed.

Okay, you grew up with Wonder Woman flying. A lot of people didn't. She didn't fly for a good portion of her history - especially in World War 2 days...which this script is about. If you're personal preference is to have her fly, dandy, but to act like it's an essential, or an everlasting part of the character...it really isn't. And I strongly disagree that it makes her less powerful as a woman.

Oh, and even if she's as strong as Superman, don't be surprised if you see her struggling to lift things, and (apparently) being weaker than she should be. That's really the oldest trick in the filmmaking book to increase drama. I mean, in Superman Returns, Superman struggled to save a plane. And my mind is always drawn back to the Hercules TV show of the 90s were Hercules often struggled with seemingly easy tasks just to make scenes more dramatic.

New Way
02-03-2007, 06:38 PM
Would you say those were 'rather small factors' in the case of a Superman movie? If Superman didnt fly in a movie, regardless of the quality of the script, direction and acting, it would be severely disappointing....in fact, it wouldnt really feel like a Superman movie at all.

To me, Wonder Woman is the closest female equivalent to Superman (yes, even more so than Supergirl). She's an ideal, a figure from our imagination that is capable of impossible wonders and does only good. The Wonder Woman I grew up with could fly. It was not a negotiable aspect to the character. Taking that away is short-changing her in the exact same way she was in the comics when stripped of her powers. I understand the reasons why they can't do that in the movie. I find them depressing, as they lead towards the idea that they do not trust the audience to accept a female character who is that powerful. When I sit in the Movie theatre and watch her do roundhouse kicks, block attacks that shouldnt damage her and struggle with weights she should be able to lift, it would be severely disappointing....in fact, it wouldnt really feel like a Wonder Woman movie at all.

Oh, and Wonder Woman should be played by an unknown.

I think making her into a female Superman has been a major disservice to the character.
She needs to define he own niche in the comic pantheon. I would give her the invisible Plane back. Their are to many Superheroes that fly already, at least the Invisible plane was something that was distinctly her own. (no one else has anything like it.) to me the question of whether she is in Superman's league as far as strength is irrelevent, because i'm not comparing her to Superman. She's her own woman, so to speak, with her own set of strengths and weaknesses

Steve Christ
02-03-2007, 06:41 PM
And, just as a side note, Wonder Woman has never been as strong as Superman at any point in her history.

Uchiha_Prodigy
02-03-2007, 06:47 PM
Thank god Whedon is off it. Not having star panties defeats the whole purpose of WW.

BanMan
02-03-2007, 07:00 PM
It sounds awesome.

Admittedly, I'm not that for a WW period piece (I'd much prefer a Cap movie set in WW2), but I'm not picky, and am really open to anything if it's good...and that sounds really good. Apparently two unknowns did what Whedon couldn't.

Really, if the movie is good I may watch it but Cap is the only hero I feel needs a movie set in WW2.

God-Man
02-03-2007, 07:03 PM
You don't think a period piece works well with Batman? I think a Batman Noir film would be amazing. B89 was sorta noir-ish in terms of art design, etc.

No because I associate Batman with modern times. A Batman noir film could be cool, but it doesn't have to be set in the past.

NikDrou
02-03-2007, 07:39 PM
Just a few points:

The 'Female Superman' point I made was not to suggest she's a clone of him. Her background and origin is completely different and she doesnt have any of his extraneous powers. However, she is his equivalent in terms of how she is perceived by other people and her superheroic contempories. She's the world's most powerful woman (even though i guess technically Power Girl should be stronger) and one of the most important people in the DCU. Depowering her does not make her more unique, it's a myth designed by people that want her to be more manageable.

The 'female empowerment' angle was part of her original pitch, but I feel it needlessly boxes her in and makes her seem to have a bias. To me, she's from an isolated, noble, harmonic culture and has been sent to 'mans world' to help everyone in equal measure and prove to her home that they are capable of reaching peace. She isnt there to prove any points about women or have any kind of favouritism in that respect.

I never suggested she was as strong or stronger than Superman, as that would take too much from his favour. However, she is one of the few that can stand against him in a fight for a significant amount of time. She is still clearly up in that power level, and is one of the few women in the DCU that are.

In Superman Returns, his struggle was not with the weight of the plane, but how to do it without it collapsing and killing everybody. Such a thing would require a certain amount of skill and precision no matter how strong you were.

The Invisible Plane is an equivalent to Krypto; a fun and self-consciously silly aspect of the mythology that can be made into something with far more weight in the hands of the right creative team. It doesnt have to be included though, and certainly should not be used as a justification for her being unable to fly (just like the laws of physics never stopped Superman).

caats19
02-03-2007, 07:46 PM
see when i heard that there would be a ww set in wwII age, i thought that sounded so much cooler. and this really does.

hadez
02-03-2007, 07:55 PM
Well, I dunno about what Wheadon has planned for WW, but I see this WWII script as a good alternative.
And she's gotta have Star Panties. That's a priority...for me, anyway :D

SouthtownKid
02-03-2007, 08:05 PM
Depowering her does not make her more unique, it's a myth designed by people that want her to be more manageable.It's not "depowering" to have her be closer in power level to the character as originally presented.

The "female Superman" as you put it, is a disservice to the character from the very beginning, because you are defining her character in relation to another (more popular) character, rather than on her own merits. ANYthing is more unique than doing that. The fact that you even think about her in those kind of terms really highlights the problems the character has currently.

PrimalSlayer
02-03-2007, 08:28 PM
The script looks good, I just dislike the whole WW2 thing.

If I knew if there were a sequel it would be set in modern times I would probably be ok with it.

NikDrou
02-03-2007, 08:28 PM
It's not "depowering" to have her be closer in power level to the character as originally presented. .

Yes it is. In fact, with this movie it's the equivalent of having Superman leaping tall buildings again, which would suck.

The "female Superman" as you put it, is a disservice to the character from the very beginning, because you are defining her character in relation to another (more popular) character, rather than on her own merits. ANYthing is more unique than doing that. The fact that you even think about her in those kind of terms really highlights the problems the character has currently.

I wasnt 'defining' her as that, just making the comparison to highlight her importance. Shes a mythical figure on par with Superman and should be treated with as such.

achilles140
02-03-2007, 08:32 PM
Sounds like a rather amateurish attempt at doing a tv movie for Sci-Fi.

I'm not sure if a pro screenwriter can save this, or if it would simply be better to abandon it all together.

Binker
02-03-2007, 09:24 PM
My opinions on this script that I'm assuming aren't there:

- The script has to say that the Amazons are ageless and can live forever.

- From Perez' arc, they're gonna have to say that the Amazons were raped once by men which would explain why they live isolated and also for the audience to understand the women.

- Have to show Diana made out of clay and comign to life to explain her existence.

- I'm 50/50 on the invisable jet but if that is taken out, another Perez element would be to have her wear those flight sandles that she wore before being given the power of flight on her own.

- I want Etta Candy to be in the film to be in love with Steve, wants to and was ready to say it to him until he arrived with Diana, then she feels she has lost. There would be this negetive feeling from her toward Diana until she finds out Diana is here because of the mission and treats Steve as a friend. Its actually Steve who is falling in love with Diana and once the film ends, Steve wants her to stay. Diana is the one who tells him that she can't because she won't age as he will and it won't be good to see him die while she doesn't. And she makes the point that Etta loves him and she knows he does too and advises him to be with her.

- As a said, once her mission to defeat the rogue amazon ends, she leaves to go back to the island. And at th end, she wonders if she'll go back. Setting a nod toward a sequel. (Which I have an idea for).

If the fights are good, then you need this but y'know how Batman's fight tactics were Kay FM, well maybe Diana would fight in amazonian-like techniques.

PrimalSlayer
02-03-2007, 10:00 PM
I dont think they need to bring up that she was made out clay, it doesnt really confuse anyone to see a young Amazon princess without saying that she was made out of clay. But I dont really mind either way.

But I didnt like her controlling the jet with her tiara, just seems to 70ish and old school. The Tiara should just represent her status

And wouldnt it be cool if Lucy Lawless played the rogue Amazon? Or even one of the supporting Amazons